Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[natural al]

dont you think you guys have beaten this horse to death?

it'll never stop...never, ever, never, never....ever, ever, ever.

[NarcissisticDeity]

agreed:


anyone who knows how to apply proper judging criteria would say that Ronnie has a much better front lat spread overall.

Hell, ND loves to posts all those paragraphs outlining how the judges look at everything in every pose, well, if thats the case, Dorian would lose this pose.

hahaha - ND gets trapped by his own mindless banter!!

Now you're just being contrary you know full well Ronnie could never match or surpass Dorian in either latspread to say otherwise is futile .

[delta9mda]

nevah evah

[Platz]

bump

 

[pumpster]

Whatever his attributes, he continues to be completely uninspiring, as in boring! With the under-sized muscles and thick joints there's very little overall taper = overall flatness. The muscles just don't pop!

[NarcissisticDeity]

bump

 

LMFAO @ bump

[ribonucleic]

Who will have the 30,000th view??

[NeoSeminole]

For you do say " he completely destroys Dorian " in back thickness especially in 98 vs 93 you're just wishfull thinking . that implies he was so far ahead of Dorian in terms of back that Dorian wouldn't even compare , which my friend is pure nonsense. Dorian's back is among the best ever seen on a professional bodybuilding stage and so is Ronnie's but Dorian has the edge in density & thickness in is traps , lats & erector spinae , and Ronnie matches up on rhomboids , teres major and infraspinatus , which I might add pop out when needed , like this pic . you can clearly see just how much thicker Dorian's lats are compared to Ronnie , has fine striations in both his lats & erector spinae and Dorian's lats are thick and deeply striated and his eartor spinae is again just thicker .

And the asymmetry you speak of laughable seriously , you think Coleman is 100%symmetrical? you think his calves match each other perfectly or his delts?

Dorian's back may be the best ever during his later years, but I'm comparing Ronnie to Dorian in 93 (arguably his best year). Even you cannot deny Dorian's back did not reach its full potential yet. These pics show Ronnie's back was just as wide and thicker. Ronnie's traps, rear delts, teres major/minor, lats, and erector spinae all jump out at you. Dorian's lower back is more striated but appears flatter. Since you claimed before striations aren't mentioned in the judging criteria so they don't matter, I guess Dorian's lower back striations don't help him.





Ronnie also doesn't have asymmetry problems like Dorian. Dorian's traps don't even line up and his Christmas tree looks like someone trimmed it wrong on the right side. Symmetry is one of the criteria the judges look for. Dorian's asymmetry would hurt him. If you want to bring up Ronnie's calves, then I raise you Dorian's arms and hamstrings.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Whatever his attributes, he continues to be completely uninspiring, as in boring! With the under-sized muscles and thick joints there's very little overall taper-the muscles almost completely lack "pop".

Keep trying to reinvent your lame critique with ' new ' catch phrases but the facts remain the same , Dorian was unbeatable in the front latspread .

[Hulkster]

Dorian's back may be the best ever during his later years,

hell no . Here is a shot from his "later years" and, thanks in part to his torn bi, his back double bi is far from "the best overall back ever" calibre.

dorian's back got worse in his later years, not better.

[ribonucleic]

Please go back in every single one of these 270 pages and find where I said Dorian ' looked good '

In fact, let's require that anyone wanting to keep this thread going must re-read the entire thing before doing so.

It's either that or kryptonite.

[pumpster]

What a surprise!
ND desperately reverting to non-contest black & whites
to try to compensate for size deficiencies! 

[Hulkster]

Dorian was unbeatable in the front latspread .

not if you read and follow your precious paragraphs he wasn't.

he had great lats, little else in that pose.

Unlike this:



who has great chest, quads, arms etc. in addtion to great lats

[pumpster]

Dorian was unbeatable in the front latspread .

A fallacy propogated by Iron Age types.

Someone explain how Yates in one of his "best" shots  is comparable to Coleman here..

[NeoSeminole]

hell no .

I only said that to shut him up. I don't really believe it 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's back may be the best ever during his later years, but I'm comparing Ronnie to Dorian in 93 (arguably his best year). Even you cannot deny Dorian's back did not reach its full potential yet. These pics show Ronnie's back was just as wide and thicker. Ronnie's traps, rear delts, teres major/minor, lats, and erector spinae all jump out at you. Dorian's lower back is more striated but appears flatter. Since you claimed before striations aren't mentioned in the judging criteria so they don't matter, I guess Dorian's lower back striations don't help him.



Ronnie also doesn't have asymmetry problems like Dorian. Dorian's traps don't even line up and his Christmas tree looks like someone trimmed it wrong on the right side. Symmetry is one of the criteria the judges look for. Dorian's asymmetry would hurt him. If you want to bring up Ronnie's calves, then I raise you Dorian's arms and hamstrings.

Dorian's back was up to its full potential by 93 bu 97 it was wider but it didn't look as great in my opinion , you cannot say Ronnie's back is just as wide it may be but for you to claim it is isn't 100% accurate . and again we are deadlocked I wholeheartedly disagree with your claim Ronnie's traps are thicker , or his lats and erector spinae , and we can throw away the striations , Dorian's back is thicker , his lats from the front are clearly thicker and have better sweep .

And you're mistaken on thinking symmetry means right/left exactness in the bodybuilding context , it doesn't it refers to balance & proportion , two areas which Ronnie can't hold a candle to Dorian on balance & proportion . Ronnie's lower balance is off due to quads to big and calves to small , his forearms are not in proportion with his massive biceps/triceps , his delts in the rear double bicep shot are actually smaller than his biceps/triceps , his glutes stick out past his hips , overall his balance can't match Dorian and thats why he looks better in most of the mandatory poses . and take a good look at Ronnie's calves if you want to talk about asymmetry both don't match each other and Ronnie's right front delt doesn't match his left , most likely due to being right handed and stronger in one arm .

[ribonucleic]

Semi-serious question, ND...

Ballpark figure: how many words do you think you've written on this subject in this thread alone? 20,000? Enough for a short book maybe?

[ribonucleic]

30,000th view!

[NarcissisticDeity]

not if you read and follow your precious paragraphs he wasn't.

he had great lats, little else in that pose.

Unlike this:



who has great chest, quads, arms etc. in addtion to great lats

Dorian has the entire pose because of his superior balance & proportion . you will never be able to escape this couple that with superior muscle density & thickness and conditioning , not to mention better lats period , thicker , wider , denser and better sweep , Ronnie can't hang.

[FREAKgeek]

That's a great shot of ronnie. No gut, striated chest, and deep cut quads - everything the naysayers attack on.

[FREAKgeek]

And you're mistaken on thinking symmetry means right/left exactness in the bodybuilding context , it doesn't it refers to balance & proportion , two areas which Ronnie can't hold a candle to Dorian on balance & proportion .

You can't have balance and proportion without left right exactness.
Look at the above pic and tell me that's not symmetry.

[Hulkster]

Semi-serious Question ND:

Ballpark Figure: How many words do you think you have written in this thread alone that actually make sense? 2? 3? Enough for one sheet of toilet paper?

[NarcissisticDeity]

You can't have balance and proportion without left right exactness.
Look at the above pic and tell me that's not symmetry.

Oh really lol balance & proportion are how one muscle compliments the other in relation to size to create the best who shot . this is one area where Ronnie can't hang with Dorian . he looks very good in that above shot but standing next to Dorian it would be clearly evident who has the better balance & proportion in this pose , coupled with Dorian's other strenghts , density , thickness , conditioning , and just outright better lats Ronnie would fall by the wayside .

[Hulkster]

smooth chest. Smooth arms. Smooth quads.

you post pics that back up what the Ronnie side is saying.

Shouldn't you be posting pics showing how great Dorian's chest, arms and legs look in the front lat spread?

oh, thats right - you can't

[NarcissisticDeity]

Semi-serious Question ND:

Ballpark Figure: How many words do you think you have written in this thread alone that actually make sense? 2? 3? Enough for one sheet of toilet paper?

Sense you say? lol Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , Dorian's conditioning was a myth , Ronnie has better balance & proportion that Dorian , Ronnie is more aesthetic than Matt Mendenhall , Matt Mendenhall is blocky , Dorian should have lost in 94 and Ronnie clearly won in 01 lol shall I continue?