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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7125 on: July 26, 2006, 06:41:12 PM »
I dont know if anyone else has brought this up because i cant be bothered reading all 289 pages of this thread.  Didnt Dorian himself admit on PBW when asked who would win out of himself & Ronnie both at their best, that Ronnie would win.  Now for him to admit that, given the natural bias bodybuilders exhibit towards themselves when being compared to others, what does that tell you.  If Dorian can accept that Ronnie would win then why are these ardent Dorian advocates so recalcitrant when it comes to accepting reality.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7126 on: July 26, 2006, 06:42:25 PM »
get your ass back to page 1 and read all of the pages.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7127 on: July 26, 2006, 06:44:02 PM »
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If Dorian can accept that Ronnie would win then why are these ardent Dorian advocates so recalcitrant when it comes to accepting reality.

It's called DENIAL..when did facts enter into it?  ::)

-Yates admission of Coleman dominance.

-Getbig poll Coleman >> Yates

-Conclusive video ownage

-Overwhemling pictoral evidence

-Something called logic ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7128 on: July 26, 2006, 06:46:49 PM »
I dont know if anyone else has brought this up because i cant be bothered reading all 289 pages of this thread.  Didnt Dorian himself admit on PBW when asked who would win out of himself & Ronnie both at their best, that Ronnie would win.  Now for him to admit that, given the natural bias bodybuilders exhibit towards themselves when being compared to others, what does that tell you.  If Dorian can accept that Ronnie would win then why are these ardent Dorian advocates so recalcitrant when it comes to accepting reality.

Even though I don't believe Dorian would  beat Ronnie head to head (my opinion) I do believe he is an English gentleman and may have just been being polite. He also said he thought Flex could beat him if he put everything together. Whether or not he actually believed that we'll never know.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7129 on: July 26, 2006, 06:50:32 PM »
It's called DENIAL..when did facts enter into it?  ::)

-Yates admission of Coleman dominance.

-Getbig poll Coleman >> Yates

-Conclusive video ownage

-Overwhemling pictoral evidence

-Something called logic ;D

One Yates never admited Ronnie was dominat thats your wishfull thinking , he said it was a very hard question for him to answer and that he felt the judges would go with Ronnie based on him weighing more , I would be very intrested in hearing his opinion on beating Ronnie 98/99  ;)

Wow the GetBig poll lol that proves there are more delusional people on this board than sane

video ownage of past their prime guys? oh yeah Ronnie really owned them all lol

pic ownage  ::) posting pics of Ronnie at his best to Dorian at his worse thats ownage huh? pumpster style lol

logic ? well your logic is off in a major way , you think Ronnie dominated when he's off by winning by just 3 points lol great logic

oh and then theres Ronnie can compensate size-wise for his gut despite being 23 pounds lighter  ??? WTF? thats logic? you had the balls to type that word? lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7130 on: July 26, 2006, 06:51:25 PM »
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in all honesty even at his worse his dryness was never as issue .

correct.

but what you fail to comprehend is that Dorian could be as dry as a desert and it wouldn't do him a bit of good against Ronnie because for all the "dryness" he had he still did not look as detailed.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7131 on: July 26, 2006, 06:56:08 PM »
correct.

but what you fail to comprehend is that Dorian could be as dry as a desert and it wouldn't do him a bit of good against Ronnie because for all the "dryness" he had he still did not look as detailed.



Wrong , again why are you so fond of blanket statements how this for detail? look at the detail in the serattus , abdominals , intercostals , obliques , Ronnie's midsection as a whole was never this crisp and detailed nevermind balanced and density .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7132 on: July 26, 2006, 06:58:48 PM »
Wrong , again why are you so fond of blanket statements how this for detail? look at the detail in the serattus , abdominals , intercostals , obliques , Ronnie's midsection as a whole was never this crisp and detailed nevermind balanced and dense .

Why can you find a pic that show Dorian's detailed midsection, but can't find one that shows his detailed arms, chest, delts?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7133 on: July 26, 2006, 07:00:07 PM »
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Why can you find a pic that show Dorian's detailed midsection, but can't find one that shows his detailed arms, chest, delts?

Interesting how that always happens.. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7134 on: July 26, 2006, 07:03:16 PM »
Why can you find a pic that show Dorian's detailed midsection, but can't find one that shows his detailed arms, chest, delts?

You can clearly see the detail in his chest in this pic and this one .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7135 on: July 26, 2006, 07:08:02 PM »
Why can you find a pic that show Dorian's detailed midsection, but can't find one that shows his detailed arms, chest, delts?

While his triceps don't have triceps although in this pic it appears so , but his triceps show great detail and separation and always have and biceps

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7136 on: July 26, 2006, 07:09:57 PM »
You can clearly see the detail in his chest in this pic and this one .

You mean that line separating his upper pec from the lower pec. I'll give you that. The arms and delts are still very lacking in detail.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7137 on: July 26, 2006, 07:14:29 PM »
Why can you find a pic that show Dorian's detailed midsection, but can't find one that shows his detailed arms, chest, delts?

Delts

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7138 on: July 26, 2006, 07:16:11 PM »
You mean that line separating his upper pec from the lower pec. I'll give you that. The arms and delts are still very lacking in detail.

ND thinks that because dorian has a detailed midsection and lower back that it erases all memory of his poor arm, delt, quad and chest (in most shots) detail.

It doesn't work that way.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7139 on: July 26, 2006, 07:20:23 PM »
Delts

none of those shots come anywere near this, and this is not only the delts. Look at the rest too.

as a whole, Dorian was lacking in detail compared to Ronnie and Flex at their bests.




Lucky for him, the judges during his reign were retarded and only cared about size :)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7140 on: July 26, 2006, 07:21:59 PM »
You mean that line separating his upper pec from the lower pec. I'll give you that. The arms and delts are still very lacking in detail.

His chest is full of striations as well . anyway you look at Ronnie's front delts they're clearly overdeveloped especially the right one it looks cool in the mostmuscular but you can see how it obscures the sidechest shot making his delts from the side appear almost as wide as his chest that doesn't make for a great sidechest shot .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7141 on: July 26, 2006, 07:22:33 PM »
I'm starting to wonder if Dorian even has a left arm???

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7142 on: July 26, 2006, 07:25:04 PM »
none of those shots come anywere near this, and this is not only the delts. Look at the rest too.

as a whole, Dorian was lacking in detail compared to Ronnie and Flex at their bests.



Lucky for him, the judges during his reign were retarded and only cared about size :)

Again your saving grace the 99 grand prix pics lol great lighting and he was in shape put 98/99 Olympia Ronnie under those lights and he'll look just as great and thats BS all the judges cared about is size because if that was the case Dillett would have beat him or Ferrigno or Ian Harrison .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7143 on: July 26, 2006, 07:26:29 PM »
Again your saving grace the 99 grand prix pics lol great lighting and he was in shape put 98/99 Olympia Ronnie under those lights and he'll look just as great and thats BS all the judges cared about is size because if that was the case Dillett would have beat him or Ferrigno or Ian Harrison .

sorry, I should rephrase myself: they cared about size and a good back.  Nothing else mattered.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7144 on: July 26, 2006, 07:27:22 PM »
Side chest looks pretty good here.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7145 on: July 26, 2006, 07:27:51 PM »
I'm starting to wonder if Dorian even has a left arm???

Oh he has one in his prime .   ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7146 on: July 26, 2006, 07:29:32 PM »
Side chest looks pretty good here.

It does look pretty good but not as good as Dorian's !! his delts dominate that pose and obscure the chest , it makes the chest appear smaller than it really is .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7147 on: July 26, 2006, 07:34:01 PM »
Oh he has one in his prime .   ;)
ND, look at the top pic. I believe that pic is from the Olympia? It looks like a contest pic. Where's the detail in Dorian's upper body??? Where is it? And the color of his skin and the lighting can only be an excuse to a point. He simply has no detail in his upper body.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7148 on: July 26, 2006, 07:35:09 PM »
Ronnie has the advantage of natural dark skin so his details are a lot more readily seen , Dorian on the otherhand is fair skinned so his details are somewhat harder to capture in photographs & video. not that I'm saying he beats Ronnie on detail but the general consensus is Dorian must be seen live & in person to get his full effect , I've read this time-andtime again . Robby Robinson was another bodybuilder whoyou could clearly see his details in print or video.

I agree Ronnie's darker skin works to his advantage, but now you are just nitpicking. Bodybuilding is a sport where genetics plays a role. Bone structure, muscle shape, muscle separation, height, etc are genetic traits we cannot change and yet bodybuilders are still judged by them. It's true darker skin helps show more detail but you assume since Ronnie's black he won't look any better in person. In fact, I remember reading somewhere Samir Bannout had the ideal tan for bodybuilding. So the standard you hold for Dorian's skin color also applies to Ronnie.

Furthermore, I feel light skin actually works to Dorian's advantage in black-and-white pics. The contrast between his light skin and the shadows created by the lighting emphasizes his muscularity. A black person's skin color doesn't have much to contrast with.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #7149 on: July 26, 2006, 07:35:38 PM »
you guys have to be the biggest schmoes i've never seen; i bet you would suck these guys off if given the chance.
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