Millions of doctors huh. Let's see, the year I trained there were probably only 300-350 nephrology fellows finishing my year.
300-350 nephrologists represent a much greater number than the dozen or so men who've won the Olympia. And those dozen or so Sandow winners, mind you, represent the total number who've won it in all times. That university of yours, furthermore, will pop out another 300-350 nephrologists each year.
When one nephrologist is able to take care of approx 150000 patients, you will see that your statistics are complete and utter BS. Regardless, this is not about me. Dorian abused heavily. Any idiot with a high school education could see this. He had better receptors than most, but to deny this simple fact is asinine.
First of all, this was not my point and, secondly, you have no way to know how much Dorian took, since you were not his personal coach or endocrinologist. My point was that the amount of steroids, GH, soatostatin-C, insulin, etc was not responsible for him becoming Mr.Olympia. Why? Because there are millions of steroid users in the
World, yet only a few men posses the muscularity Dorian had in his Mr.Olympia reign. But let's assume that Dorian was an insane juicer and that most of those hundreds of steroid abusers take only a fraction of what he did. Ok. Let's assume that only one tenth of one percent of steroid users use as much as Dorian did. Well, this still leaves thousands of men who use as much anabolics as Dorian ever did, yet don't posses his muscularity. My point is that drugs were not responsible for him becoming Mr.Olympia, because when everyone is taking them as well, the playing field is leveled and what counts are genetics, tenacity, toughness, capacity to plan training strategies, etc. You try to reduce Dorian's ahieveent of becoming Mr.Olympia to drugs, to reduce it's value, when in reality becoming Mr.Olympia is extremely difficult.
BTW, your use of Brad Pitt for greatness is hilarious. Only Hollywood tabloid types find him great. No, he is far from great. He is a movie star who makes a lot of money. Big difference. Dorian is far from great. He never used bodybuilding as a tool to better society. Great people are Mother Theresa, Gandhi, Lincoln, Roosevelt, etc. They moved society forward. Dorian has done two shits for society. He was a great bodybuilder. In no way was he great. Popularity in society hardly equates to greatness.
But celebrity is greatness. People achieve celebrity by doing great deeds, or having something that few have - in the case of movie stars, looks and charm. The example of Brad Pitt is very relevant to explain you, that what people deem valuable is not not necessarily dependent on ethics. This is your fundamental mistake: you assume that value is a funtion of ethics. You seem to have an almost utilitarian view of greatness: great is someone who does a lot of good to a lot of people. This is nonsensical. Genghis Khan butchered millions of people, yet he went down in the history books as a great man. The average medical doctor, who might save dozens of lives throughout his life, dies in almost complete obscurity. You used the example of Tom Cruise. Well, he has never saved any life - that I know of -, yet there are far more women wanting to date/f**k/marry him than there are who want to do the same with your average M.D - and medical doctors do get a lot of proposals from women but because they make good salaries not necessarily because they save lives. Sabin saved millions of little children from pralyses, yet I assure you that there are far more people who know who Michael Jordan is than him. Try to understand this: importance is a value-judgment, which is independent from ethics.
I called you feeble minded as you rant and rave and take everything so personally. You chimed into this thread acting like ND's bitch.
Why? Because we happen to agree on something? Believe it or not, me and him have been opponents on several different threads before. The reason why you don't know it is because you're a board newbie, having registered here less than a year ago. It is an absurd statement, considering that we very seldom even reply to each other's posts. And you have been a very minor participant in this thread, and an amusing distraction from Hulkster and Pumpster. I do think ND's scans are fantastic, but that's as far as I'll go complimenting him. If that makes me his bitch, then whatever.
Enough said. Your points are irrational and often rambling. You are sycophantic as you ramble on about Dorian like Tom Cruise does scientology. It is quite pathetic. Get a life Sucky. Yes, I complimented your politcal views once long ago. This thread has proven that one discussion with Tre was a one hit wonder.
The thing is that it wasn't only once...
If you debated like that without resorting to threats, your posts may be more powerful. Regardless, go live your life as you see fit and worship Dorian.
Hmmm...I think it is you who worships medicine too much, and tends to give it a relevance that is dwarfed, to most people, by the relevance of celebrities...inluding bodybuilding champions...
BTW...here is a link with the number of nephrologists. 5000 is a lot less than millions. Peace Sucky.
Five thousand is a lot more than a dozen. And all of the dozen winners of the Mr.Olympia can claim to have been the best in the World at something. How many of these nephrologists can claim to be the best nephrologist in the World? Well, 4999 can't.
Oh my, Nicorulez, you make it so easy for me...
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