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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8400 on: August 19, 2006, 02:46:52 PM »
Unfortunately :-\


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8401 on: August 19, 2006, 02:48:09 PM »


Yates looks like a titan right there! Coleman can't match that taper. Notice how his chest projects itself outward creating a "Herculean" affect. Coleman is a big bag of piss! Reverse taper!!!!
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8402 on: August 19, 2006, 02:51:39 PM »


Yates looks like a titan right there! Coleman can't match that taper. Notice how his chest projects itself outward creating a "Herculean" affect. Coleman is a big bag of piss! Reverse taper!!!!

Yates quads have no deep cuts like Coleman....his chest is smooth and small, and his arms have no detail, the delt tie-in is weak. Coleman would smash Dorian on stage,

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8403 on: August 19, 2006, 02:54:57 PM »
Yates could NEVER match this...


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8404 on: August 19, 2006, 02:57:28 PM »
Perfect most-muscular :o


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8405 on: August 19, 2006, 02:58:02 PM »
Yates could never match that level of water retention. Coleman set the fuckin' standard!  :D
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8406 on: August 19, 2006, 02:59:51 PM »


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8407 on: August 19, 2006, 03:00:47 PM »
look at that quad...the arms :o


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8408 on: August 19, 2006, 03:01:35 PM »
I've seen the light .. this IS the best ever..


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8409 on: August 19, 2006, 03:03:43 PM »



Holy shit!  :-X

That illustrates Coleman's reverse taper perfectly. He looks like a human toad.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8410 on: August 19, 2006, 03:12:34 PM »
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That illustrates Coleman's reverse taper perfectly.

A genius who uses side shots to illustrate taper.  ::) Ludicrous; this had to be SUCKY.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8411 on: August 19, 2006, 03:16:32 PM »
A genius who uses side shots to illustrate taper.  ::) Ludicrous; this had to be SUCKY.

I'm not SMM. You can think that if you wish. It doesn't really matter. I'll take it as a compliment since SMM is a smart guy.

You can try to rationalise it all you want. The fact is, Coleman is demonstrating his reverse taper there perfectly. He's the only Mr. Olympia in history with a reverse taper! Disgusting!  :-X

It just shows you how far the standard has fallen since the mid 90s when Dorian reigned.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8412 on: August 19, 2006, 03:19:31 PM »
I've seen the light .. this IS the best ever..

If one person can be saved, then this thread was worth it!!!


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8413 on: August 19, 2006, 03:26:36 PM »
 ::) That's just gay.  ;D
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8414 on: August 19, 2006, 03:30:47 PM »
cool, I wish I could be more alpha like you ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8415 on: August 19, 2006, 03:44:02 PM »
If someone would tell me how to take screenshots from windows media player, I can put some up of Dorian from the 93 Olympia.

I watched it again and have a few thoughts in comparison to Coleman '99
-Dorian back does hold up to Coleman's
-Dorian was drier but not more separated.
-Dorian DID have a good taper in 93.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8416 on: August 19, 2006, 04:27:02 PM »
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You can try to rationalise it all you want. The fact is, Coleman is demonstrating his reverse taper there perfectly. He's the only Mr. Olympia in history with a reverse taper! Disgusting!

You've done absolutely NOTHING to substantiate anything, just like SUCKY. Especially the  reverse taper nonsense. Here on the other hand, is your beloved's H-taper in full effect: enjoy!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8417 on: August 19, 2006, 04:34:27 PM »
Amazing how Ronnie in 03 outweighed Dorian by over 20 lbs and still had a better taper.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8418 on: August 19, 2006, 04:58:53 PM »
Amazing how Ronnie in 03 outweighed Dorian by over 20 lbs and still had a better taper.



Its not surprising because whether he was 250 pounds or 290 pounds, he still had a superior physique according to traditional bodybuilding standards..
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8419 on: August 19, 2006, 05:03:45 PM »

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8420 on: August 19, 2006, 05:04:47 PM »
Its not surprising because whether he was 250 pounds or 290 pounds, he still had a superior physique according to traditional bodybuilding standards..

I should rephrase that- at the 2003 Mr. O. at least, he still had a superior phyisue.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8421 on: August 19, 2006, 05:54:10 PM »
I've ALWAYS said that Yates was denser and drier; on the other hand while these were not Coleman's strengths he wasn't "water logged" at his best either, that's flat out inaccurate.

Yaters was NEVER CLOSE to being the complete package-all his evident strengths in density & dryness didn't compensate for equally obvious, huge FLAWS elsewhere-ignore them all you want they're still there. Density & dryness aren't nearly as impressive on a flawed physique.

Yates simply couldn't match up in terms of size, cuts, vascularity, refinement, shape, aesthetics, taper, balance and definition in certain areas like the front of the arms, chest and delts. That's a huge list of striking inadequacies, all glaringly on display here:




obvisoulsy, his mass, dryness, hardness, and density was enough to compensate his "flaws" (according to you).  the judges liked it.  he was the most dominant mr. olympia ever.  based on the score sheets and competition.  half of coleman's wins were by less than four points, 2 to flex and 3 to cutler and 2 to levrone.  yates got perfect scores in 5 of his 6 Olympia's and no one really close.  check the score sheets. 


meanwhile, coleman looses to gustavo 2 years in a row during the challenge round and it comes down to one pose between him and cutler in 04 and looses 2 rounds in 01.

one of the challenge rounds in 05 was decided by former mr. olympias.  but you and hulkster are the true authority.



his chest was always cross striated. 



hulkster, this is seperation BETWEEN muscle groups.



a clear distinction between every muscle group of the upper body. 


couldnt match up in terms of size, cuts, vascularity, refinement, shape, aesthetics, taper, balance and definition in certain areas like the front of the arms, chest and delts.? 


you know you are right.  dorian wasnt very vascular (neither was flex or jay), his taper was ok - better than some of the other big guys, his balance was ok.  his arms could have been bigger, etc, etc.

defintion in his arms, delts, and chest.  that was ok as well.  wasnt the best and not as good as colemans.  but its not as bad as you claim.

but you know what, dorian's mass, hardness, and dryness was enough to compensate for the lack of whatever flaws you say he has.  he beat some of the biggest guys ever (nasser, paul, fux) and some of the most complete ever like shawn and flex, and kevin as well.  apparently, the judges though he had the best overall package.  dorian's track record speaks for it self.  if you have a problem with that, than take that up with the judges. 









 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8422 on: August 19, 2006, 06:09:23 PM »
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obvisoulsy, his mass, dryness, hardness, and density was enough to compensate his "flaws" (according to you).  the judges liked it.  he was the most dominant mr. olympia ever. 

Truly weak rationalizations continue:

-We're *not* discussing how he did against his competition but against someone vastly superior, in which case all your wasted rhetoric on his competition is completely meaningless!

-He was probably the weakest multiple-winner ever, other than Columbu, based on the physique, the quality of his competition (several should have beaten him) and his vast flaws. All the rest of it's just you embellishing.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8423 on: August 19, 2006, 06:20:47 PM »
Truly weak rationalizations continue:


-He was probably the weakest multiple-winner ever, other than Columbu, based on the physique, the quality of his competition (several should have beaten him) and his vast flaws. All the rest of it's just you embellishing.

weakest winner ever?  dumbest comment in the history of getbig next to hulkster claiming yates being underrated.

who else would have beaten dorian, other than ronnie.  zane, samir? 


the quality of his competition was the best bodybuilding has ever seen and maybe will not seen again, or not for a long time.  ronnie's competition is a joke.  where would jay and dexter finish against a prime kevin, nasser, paul, flex, shawn.  idiot. 


several should have beaten him?  who, based on the score sheets, and not your opinion.  flex, kevin, and jay were closer to beating ronnie than anyone was to beating dorian.  check the score sheets.   that's how bodybuilding contests are decided. 
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #8424 on: August 19, 2006, 06:24:52 PM »
Truly weak rationalizations continue:


how else would you rationalize it, by not using the final decidsion and outcome - score sheets and yates announced as the winner, and instead go by your opinion?

pictures are objective.  numbers on a piece of paper (a scoresheet) are not.  those #'s reflect the judges decisions. 
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