Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pobrecito]

Watch the 93O video, Shawn was never in the picture becuase although he looked good on his own, it's human nature to be drawn to the bigger guy. In prejudging with Flex, Dorian, and Shawn in a line Shawn seriously looked like a kid. Now Flex on the other hand could hold his own, but his back was too small to compete with Dorian, he had a detailed back, but in 93, Dorian's back was MORE detailed than Flex's. And really, the best back wins the Mr. O.

[pobrecito]

That being said, 99 Ronnie is still the best ever, and in my opinion WAY better quality wise than 2003, in 2003 Ronnie's back was water logged in comparison to 98 and 99 condition. I don't know what happened in 2000, but he really upped the drug dosage I believe as his gut looked absolutely horrible in BFTO 2000 when training, he also looked like he aged a shit ton in the face. His face actually looked young at the 99O. He briefly got back his 99 form I believe in BFTO 2002 with 10-12 lbs more muscle, but he crashed his diet and was never the same from there on out.

[Hulkster]

That being said, 99 Ronnie is still the best ever, and in my opinion WAY better quality wise than 2003, in 2003 Ronnie's back was water logged in comparison to 98 and 99 condition. I don't know what happened in 2000, but he really upped the drug dosage I believe as his gut looked absolutely horrible in BFTO 2000 when training, he also looked like he aged a shit ton in the face. His face actually looked young at the 99O. He briefly got back his 99 form I believe in BFTO 2002 with 10-12 lbs more muscle, but he crashed his diet and was never the same from there on out.

agreed

[Hulkster]

for comparison, 1999 vs 2003 symmetry round:



Ronnie's taper is almost a different shape in 2003 because of his obliques

[suckmymuscle]

THEY ARE NOT WORLD-CLASS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. THAT ONE PIC ABOVE IS CLEARLY MORPHED-THE SIZE IS ABOUT TWICE AS IN ANY OTHER CONTEST SHOT. PLUS THEY HAVE HORRIBLE SHAPE PERFECT FOR SUCKY.

  None of the pics I posted, of Dorian's biceps, are morphed. Get over it. Oh, by the way, your boy will need some serious morphing to compete with this shot of Dorian's calves. If sub-par biceps are a liability, then so are sub-par calves!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

None of the pics I posted, of Dorian's biceps, are morphed.

In fact you'd be wrong-again; you have no idea whether they are or not. My pics prove there is a huge discrepancy in size between that ONE shot and any other you can provide-if i'm wrong i'll wait for you to furnish proof, as i did. 

[suckmymuscle]

you don't?

Here is why:

his arms lack world class shape, vascularity and size compared to the rest of his physique:


1992

1993

1995

every year, his arms sucked compared to guys like this:


that is why people say Dorian had bad arms.

Kevin is interesting in that like Yates, his biceps were not so great by themselves. 

but UNLIKE Yates he had such a great shape to his triceps and delts that his arms looked great from most angles. Dorian tris looked good from one angle only (the side) and then disappeared in every other angle:

  The thing is that, when compared to the 1998 or 1999 Ronnies, Dorian actually has the better triceps. And the triceps represents a larger portion of the arms mass than the biceps. When you add into the equation the fact that Dorian also had the better forearms, it's game over: Dorian had the better overrall arms. Seriously, Hulkster, I will compare this side triceps shot of Dorian to that of the 1999 Ronnie any day.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

In fact you'd be wrong-again; you have no idea whether they are or not. My pics prove there is a huge discrepancy in size between that ONE shot and any other you can provide-if i'm wrong i'll wait for you to furnish proof, as i did. 

  Once again, I've posted several shots of Dorian's world-class biceps. Here are them again to you, with some additions. Oh, needless to say, none are morphed.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Mussolini]

Suckmymuscle hit the nail on the head again.

All this bullshit about Ronnie having better arms than Yates. Arms consist of Both Bi's and Tri's believe it or not. Let me reiterate that Tris take up much more of the arms than Bi's. As we can see from the pics Dorian has much better tri's and Ronnies has slightly better Bi's. Dorian also kills Ronnie on Forearms.
        In conclusion, while Coleman has the edge in Bi's, Dorian owns him in Tri's and Forearms and therefor has vastly superior arm development than Ronnie COleman.

[suckmymuscle]

Suckmymuscle hit the nail on the head again.

All this bullshit about Ronnie having better arms than Yates. Arms consist of Both Bi's and Tri's believe it or not. Let me reiterate that Tris take up much more of the arms than Bi's. As we can see from the pics Dorian has much better tri's and Ronnies has slightly better Bi's. Dorian also kills Ronnie on Forearms.
        In conclusion, while Coleman has the edge in Bi's, Dorian owns him in Tri's and Forearms and therefor has vastly superior arm development than Ronnie COleman.

  If this analyses had been any more brilliant, we'd all have gone blind...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

You guys are out of your damn mind if you think Dorian had better overall arms. The ONLY pose Dorian's triceps looked good is the side triceps. Ronnie's triceps look good in the front double biceps, rear double biceps, front lat spread, rear lat spread, most muscular, side chest, and side triceps. Dorian also never had striated triceps and he lacked separation between his medial and long heads. I'm not even going to compare biceps. Ronnie simply destroys Dorian. However, I will give Dorian the edge in forearms.

[pobrecito]

You guys are out of your damn mind if you think Dorian had better overall arms. The ONLY pose Dorian's triceps looked good is the side triceps. Ronnie's triceps look good in the front double biceps, rear double biceps, front lat spread, rear lat spread, most muscular, side chest, and side triceps. Dorian also never had striated triceps and he lacked separation between his medial and long heads. I'm not even going to compare biceps. Ronnie simply destroys Dorian. However, I will give Dorian the edge in forearms.

To me, that comparison looks very close. Honestly, 99 ronnie vs. 93 dorian would be very close IMO, but Ronnie would win due to superior shape. 2003 Ronnie wins on mass alone, but his quality was well below 99 imo

[delta9mda]

close indeed the only thing ronnie "has" over yates per these photos is the highly peaked biceps.
that is it.

[suckmymuscle]

You guys are out of your damn mind if you think Dorian had better overall arms. The ONLY pose Dorian's triceps looked good is the side triceps. Ronnie's triceps look good in the front double biceps, rear double biceps, front lat spread, rear lat spread, most muscular, side chest, and side triceps. Dorian also never had striated triceps and he lacked separation between his medial and long heads. I'm not even going to compare biceps. Ronnie simply destroys Dorian. However, I will give Dorian the edge in forearms.

  Try this picture! Dorian's overrall arms were superior to Ronnie's. Get over it. I can post massive evidence for the supremacy of Dorian's triceps, which were thicker than Ronnie's both from the sides and back. No contest! Ronnie only surpassed Dorian, fr triceps mass, in 2003 - at the expense of striations and cuts. The 1993/5 Dorians destroys Ronnie when it comes to triceps!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Undenible evidence: the 250+ lbs Dorian(1993/4/5) had  vastly superior midsection to the 257 lbs Ronnie(1999). How so? Dorian's stomach was flatter, with far more separated abdominals and serratus. The photographic evidence? Here goes...

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  For al the vitriol about Ronnie's quads, Dorian's inner thighs and calves were thicker, denser and more separated than Ronnie's.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

All this bullshit about Ronnie having better arms than Yates. Arms consist of Both Bi's and Tri's believe it or not. Let me reiterate that Tris take up much more of the arms than Bi's.

You are not very aware in that case-take a look at some of the preceeding pages in which i've destroyed your dumb theory. Get it straight-Yates had good medial/lateral head definition, which is why he only looked good on the side tri-he did NOT have much size in the largest part of the triceps, fool, which is why in overhead shots he's revealed to have pathetic bi AND tri size.

Coleman seen her overwhelming Yates on tri size, with cuts that were close.

[pumpster]

close indeed the only thing ronnie "has" over yates per these photos is the highly peaked biceps.

In which case you're a naif when it comes to BB AND haven't read the preceeding pages in the thread that have proved completely the opposite.

Or, as Sergio put it so succinctly:


"Yates has the belly of a cow & no arms..it's not bodybuilding."  

[pumpster]

Try this picture!  Dorian's overrall arms were superior to Ronnie's. Get over it. I can post massive evidence for the supremacy of Dorian's triceps, which were thicker than Ronnie's both from the sides and back.

He looks tier-B in that pic - as usual, the arm size both bis and tris - are completely overwhelmed by the huge torso.

As proved over and over again, Coleman overwhelms Yates on tri size, which is why Yates only looks good in the side-tri shot that emphasizes his cuts.

SUCKY 200 pages ago i asked you for an overhead shot of Yates proving that he has more than great cuts, that reveals great tri size....still waiting..

[NeoSeminole]

Try this picture! Dorian's overrall arms were superior to Ronnie's. Get over it.

Are you f*cking stupid? You posted the same exact pic of Dorian I did.

I can post massive evidence for the supremacy of Dorian's triceps, which were thicker than Ronnie's both from the sides and back. No contest! Ronnie only surpassed Dorian, fr triceps mass, in 2003 - at the expense of striations and cuts. The 1993/5 Dorians destroys Ronnie when it comes to triceps!

No, you can't. All you can do is post shots of Dorian hitting a side triceps pose. I dare you to find me pics where Dorian's triceps look good in any other mandatory.

[shiftedShapes]

Are you f*cking stupid? You posted the same exact pic of Dorian I did.





No, you can't. All you can do is post shots of Dorian hitting a side triceps pose. I dare you to find me pics where Dorian's triceps look good in any other mandatory.

I think Dorian's weakness was his BF.  It's better not to have body fat.  Once you get down to 0.0% it looks pretty good from what I've seen of this one contest from back in the 90s

[Hulkster]

please tell me some fools are not trying to rationalize dorian having better arms?




you guys are also forgetting that dorian arms looking nothing like this from the back...you have to consider all angles...


show me dorian's arms in a side chest compared to this!


this is retarded..

[Shockwave]

For gods sake. Even I won't try and rationalize Dorian having better arms.

[Hulkster]

exactly. why are the yates fans so fucking stupid? You can't rationalize who has better arms on paper - you have to LOOK AT THEIR ARMS AND COMPARE THEM!!!







as compared to:








 

don't you guys even look? or do you just blindly say Yates has better everything than Ronnie?

do you see the Ronnie fans arguing that Ronnie has better CALVES than Yates?

no you don't.

this arm argument is no different.

Us Ronnie fans have BRAINS!

Fuck, Lee "The Flea" Labrada has better arms than Dorian did at the 1992 Olympia (when dorian was in great shape!)

I suppose you must think that Lee has better arms than Ronnie?

[IceCold]

dorian's tri's look better in the side tricep pose and coleman's look better in overhead shots.  

coleman's lateral head is very small vs. dorian's that is much larger.  

i dont think dorian has better overall arms that coleman.  certainly not as bad as hulkster claims.

whe you consider all angels coleman has the edge on arms.  

this shot is the most impressive i've seen of yates' arms that's not in the side tricep pose.  has it all - mass, conditioning, and seperation (brachialis is clearly visible).  doesnt get any better than this.





pumpster counld not be any more an idiot.  he keeps calling yates a 'tier b' olympian from the 93 pics when he either forgets or doesnt believe that is the  ONLY bber ever not to be called out during prejuding.  pumpster, what else do you need?  and no, your opinion on pics aint gonna cut it.