Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[RocketSwitch625]

Coleman finally grew some hair. LOL

[pumpster]

Yates looking like a fag.

Great calves, along with 17" arms and the kind of wide waist and H-taper Coleman never had.

[Necrosis]

yates has small smooth arms in that pic. to go along with a miniture chest and horrible midsection.

[nicorulez]

A case could be made on who was the most dominant Mr. Olympia ever. But who was better? thats coleman by a longshot.

that is like comparing the great Pete Sampras to the current Roger Federer.

Hey man, do you think Sampras would have taken out Federer at their respective bests?  It would have been a hell of a battle, but I take Sampras in four on Wimbledon.  On hard courts, it would be a toss up.

[pumpster]

Hey man, do you think Sampras would have taken out Federer at their respective bests?  It would have been a hell of a battle, but I take Sampras in four on Wimbledon.  On hard courts, it would be a toss up.

The winner could play Borg or Mcenroe.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ah. so you agree to what I have been saying all along:

back then the judges favored size over quality at all costs. *(which is wrong)

I knew you would come to see the obvious light..

dorian did not deserve the devine scores he recieved most of the time

Yes I'm agreeing with you when I say Dorian doesn't look aesthetically pleasing compared to Shawn Ray in that particular shot in that partiucular year , but thats about it , you keep insisting that Yates has no " quality " thats nonsense in itself , one doesn't win the Mr Olympia title without quality , because you think he doesn't look as good in that pose that somehow he lacks quality and its nonsense

[NarcissisticDeity]

yates has small smooth arms in that pic. to go along with a miniture chest and horrible midsection.

Miniture chest lol

[Hulkster]

can you explain how ronnie lost the prejudging to cutler in 01, yet despite his horrible posing, ronnie won the posing rounds and the show. 

he even knew he lost - signaling "peace" to someone in the crowd.

also, explain how in 02 he won despite kevin and ronnie weighing 245.

hulkster,

its very convinent to bitch about the judging when dorian is involved, but yet you ignore the bad judging when coleman is the subject.

once again, you are a hypocrite.

ps.  why do you keep posting the pic of dorian doing a MM from 91.  should we post pics of coleman from before 98?

the most muscular is from Dorian's FIRST MR. O. VICTORY not some prepubescent shot.

personally, I think he actually looked a little better in 1992 than in 1993 as he was harder and his midsection was WAY tighter.

How do I explain the fact that Ronnie won in 2001?

simple: the contest was close.  He dominated from the back and was very close from the front.

Narrowly winning is NOT flawed judging, as is what happened in 2001.

yates dominating post tear when he was clearly inferior in many poses yet recieves perfect or nearly perfect scores IS flawed judging.

Do not mistake a narrow win as being the same as a dominant win while looking liking shit compared to your second place competition.

they are NOT the same thing.

[Hulkster]

considering that Lee Labrada had a better chest than dorian at his first Olympia win, I would say yes

[RocketSwitch625]

the most muscular is from Dorian's FIRST MR. O. VICTORY not some prepubescent shot.

personally, I think he actually looked a little better in 1992 than in 1993 as he was harder and his midsection was WAY tighter.

And yet you claim that Coleman was at his best in 2003 when he had a bigger gut than Yates ever had.

[Hulkster]

And yet you claim that Coleman was at his best in 2003 when he had a bigger gut than Yates ever had.

no, you are confusing me with someone else.

I have NEVER claimed that 2003 was Ronnie's best shape.

His 1999 shape is leaps and bounds better, although 30 pounds lighter.

[RocketSwitch625]

Face it Sulkster, you lost the argument before it even started.

[NarcissisticDeity]

why do you continue to think that the Mr. Olympia is soley based on biceps development.

just as you say i am biased bc yates' biceps are poor, you are in the other direction saying they are more important just bc they are a strong point for coleman.

abs/midsection is of much more importance that fucking biceps, but bc coleman has such a horrendous four pack with a distended gut, you leave that out.

how convienent.


i'm not denying that biceps are a major part of judging.  but they are still are just ONE bodypart.

and clearly not as important as others; such as back or legs. 

if that were true, the lee priest, dillet, matarazzo would have been mr. olympia.

and ronnie would have won this year.


owned again pumpster.

 

Thats what they do , Dorian's biceps arern't just good they're the worse of all time , and then his entire arms are bad , 17" the worse arms of any Mr Olympia , his arms are smaller than Labradas , his arms aren't even on the National level , he won with one arm or a missing bicep , I love that one his bicep isn't just shorter than the other its ' missing '    thats how these idiots work they try and reduce Dorian to nothing because its makes it easier for them to believe Ronnie could beat him at his best

[NarcissisticDeity]

the most muscular is from Dorian's FIRST MR. O. VICTORY not some prepubescent shot.

personally, I think he actually looked a little better in 1992 than in 1993 as he was harder and his midsection was WAY tighter.

How do I explain the fact that Ronnie won in 2001?

simple: the contest was close.  He dominated from the back and was very close from the front.

Narrowly winning is NOT flawed judging, as is what happened in 2001.

yates dominating post tear when he was clearly inferior in many poses yet recieves perfect or nearly perfect scores IS flawed judging.

Do not mistake a narrow win as being the same as a dominant win while looking liking shit compared to your second place competition.

they are NOT the same thing.

Ronnie didn't dominate from the back , again you don't know what you're talking about , Ronnie lost the symmetry & muscularity rounds in 2001 he didn't DOMINATE anything , you personally feel he looked better than Jay from the back but to say he dominated from the back is a lie , period. and Ronnie despite being so far behind comes back to ' win ' the whole contest in the posing rounds , thats never been done before or after , that contest wasn't close it was a joke and Ronnie knew he lost , he won the title but he didn't beat  Jay Cutler that night

in 1994 post tear the jead of the IFBB judging said Dorian's biceps tear made absolutely NO difference to ANY of the judging , it didn't effect his overall package one bit , one bicep was shorter than the other and thats a travesty but two calves that are completely lacking in development , shape and detail are NO problem to you and for the upteenth time if anything having two weak calves is MORE of a liabilty than one shorter bicep , you can only see that short bicep in one pose the front double biceps and you can clearly see weak calves in every single mandatory pose , from every single angle , weak calves can't be hidden , so spare us the hypocrisy.

[pobrecito]

Today I saw a guy riding a bike on the side of the road...he had far better calves than Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman. Something ain't right with that.

[IceCold]

the most muscular is from Dorian's FIRST MR. O. VICTORY not some prepubescent shot.


How do I explain the fact that Ronnie won in 2001?

simple: the contest was close.  He dominated from the back and was very close from the front.

Narrowly winning is NOT flawed judging, as is what happened in 2001.

yates dominating post tear when he was clearly inferior in many poses yet recieves perfect or nearly perfect scores IS flawed judging.

Do not mistake a narrow win as being the same as a dominant win while looking liking shit compared to your second place competition.

they are NOT the same thing.

ronnie did look like shit to jay that year.

it looked like coleman forgot to take his plasma expanders and diuretics.

also, ronnie was loosing after prejudging, dorian never was.

ronnie's posing has always sucked, so how he could he come back and win the posing rounds?

its your opinion that yates looked like shit, but he was still never loosing, while coleman was.

explain that. 

[Hulkster]

Today I saw a guy riding a bike on the side of the road...he had far better calves than Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman. Something ain't right with that.

and he probably had better biceps than Dorian...

what is your point?

[Hulkster]

also, ronnie was loosing after prejudging, dorian never was.

exactly.

one contest was fair and very close a narrow win.

in the case of dorian, that fact that he still dominated looking like he did in 1994 and 1997 proves how flawed the judging was.

You guys are trying to use 2001 as an example of flawed judging, when in fact the when you compare it to 1994 or 1997 it shows that it was actually spot on.

the contest was very close. we all know that. Ronnie barely won.

in the case of Dorian, the fact that he dominated in 1994 and 1997 while looking so bad shows flawed judging.

You guys are disproving your own argument with 2001.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie didn't dominate from the back , again you don't know what you're talking about , Ronnie lost the symmetry & muscularity rounds in 2001 he didn't DOMINATE anything , you personally feel he looked better than Jay from the back but to say he dominated from the back is a lie , period.

one of the dumbest comments on the entire thread.

anyone who says Ronnie did not kill Jay from the back in 2001 is just being stupid (ie like ND).

it was not like 2006 folks.

Ronnie's back killed Jay's back in 2001:


ND, you are a baised guy who has fallen for the 2006 Jay Cutler Hype.

[RocketSwitch625]

in the case of Dorian, the fact that he dominated in 1994 and 1997 while looking so bad shows flawed judging.

You guys are disproving your own argument with 2001.

But he only looked bad compared to his previous forms i.e. 93 & 95, not compared to the other competitors. Not even Nasser was close. He looked soft from the rear and still had his long torso and short legs. Same with Shawn Ray and Lee Priest.

[RocketSwitch625]

ND, you are a baised guy who has fallen for the 2006 Jay Cutler Hype.

Thank you for providing us with pics that prove once and for all that Jay Cutler should be at least a two time Mr Olympia by now. Cutler is severely pwning Coleman in the rear lat spread there.

[Hulkster]

But he only looked bad compared to his previous forms i.e. 93 & 95, not compared to the other competitors.

no, he looked bad compared to the other competitors..
also see the youtube prejudging clip.

[Hulkster]

Thank you for providing us with pics that prove once and for all that Jay Cutler should be at least a two time Mr Olympia by now.

really?

Ronnie has a better side chest, front double bi, better back double bi, better rear lat spread, an equal side tri, and the other two poses he is not even flexing yet...

hardly a decisive win for Jay

[pobrecito]

and he probably had better biceps than Dorian...

what is your point?

hahaha...please. An average person will never have arms like Dorian, yet the average person has better calves than Ronnie...lol what a joke.

[RocketSwitch625]

no, he looked bad compared to the other competitors..
also see the youtube prejudging clip.

You are entitled to your opinion even though you are wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.