Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

So where again is that new level of development that Ronnie has that Dorian doesn't? lol

[NeoSeminole]

damn, Ronnie destroys Dorian in that comparison.

[Hulkster]

of course he does.

dorian was good.

Ronnie was better.

the standard was raised, plain and simple.

Unliike the ironagers, I do not believe that the further back you go the better the physiques got.

the 99 ronnie and probably (even though he was narrow) 93 Flex were the best the sport has yet seen.

Dorian was not.

[knny187]

Look how low Dorians lats insert.

Thats bad ass

[pumpster]

So where again is that new level of development that Ronnie has that Dorian doesn't? lol

Other than huge size, taper, shape and vascularity advantages, you'd be right.  Are we looking at the BBs? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

of course he does.

dorian was good.

Ronnie was better.

the standard was raised, plain and simple.

Unliike the ironagers, I do not believe that the further back you go the better the physiques got.

the 99 ronnie and probably (even though he was narrow) 93 Flex were the best the sport has yet seen.

Dorian was not.

Again explain the " New Level " Ronnie took back development that Dorian didn't have 6 years eariler .

[pumpster]

all you are is an internet-fan-boy , you're ignorant of how bodybuilding contests are judged , what the criteria is , what the judges are looking for , what balance & proportion are

This from Iron Age turd boy with a clear bias towards certain physiques and an unquestioning loyalty to IFBB/Flex dogma. ND's truly a great follower. 

[NeoSeminole]

So where again is that new level of development that Ronnie has that Dorian doesn't?

You must be blind. Ronnie's back muscles pop when he flexes them. They look like they jump out at you. Dorian's back muscles look almost shrink wrapped to his body. They don't move when he flexes them. His back looks flat compared to Ronnie's.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This from Iron Age turd boy with a clear bias towards certain physiques and an unquestioning loyalty to IFBB/Flex dogma. ND's truly a great follower. 

This from a guy who thinks Tiger Woods is overrated and the CFL is better than the NFL lol this comming from the great mind who said Ronnie can compensate for his gut size wise despite being 23 pounds lighter than Yates , pumpy keep working on yout conspircy theories thats all you have .

[Hulkster]

Again explain the " New Level " Ronnie took back development that Dorian didn't have 6 years eariler .

simple:

1. Dorian's upper back double bi lacked the benefit of great arms.

2. his back also lacked the deep ridges of muscle that ronnie's has (people have often said dorian's back looked "flat" in comparison to Ronnie's, and I have refered to the "lumpiness" of Ronnie's back in comparison to Dorian's as well).

3. His back taper (esp. in the rear lat spread) was not as good thanks to a wider waist.

In terms of the lower back, well, dorians' had the best.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You must be blind. Ronnie's back muscles pop when he flexes them. They look like they jump out at you. Dorian's back muscles look almost shrink wrapped to his body. They don't move when he flexes them. His back looks flat compared to Ronnie's.

What the fuck does " pop " have to do with a new level of back development ? please explain this , what new muscles are developed in Ronnie's back that Yates didin't have years eariler?

[NarcissisticDeity]

simple:

1. Dorian's upper back double bi lacked the benefit of great arms.

2. his back also lacked the deep ridges of muscle that ronnie's has (people have often said dorian's back looked "flat" in comparison to Ronnie's, and I have refered to the "lumpiness" of Ronnie's back in comparison to Dorian's as well).

3. His back taper (esp. in the rear lat spread) was not as good thanks to a wider waist.

In terms of the lower back, well, dorians' had the best.

Nice try but try again , what " New Level " of back development did Ronnie have that Yates didn't years eariler?

We're not talking about great arm development , or taper , or lumpiness lol what " New Level " of development did Ronnie have that Dorian did not?

[pumpster]

This from a guy who thinks Tiger Woods is overrated and the CFL is better than the NFL

I think ND has ADD with mutterings about something from 5 months ago:

Stay on topic..we were discussing Yates' inadequacies..which is the bad arm? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I think ND has ADD with mutterings about something from 5 months ago:

Stay on topic..we were discussing Yates' inadequacies..which is the bad arm? 

Neither  which was the shorter bicep you mean? Yates doesn't need Ronnie Coleman biceps to beat Ronnie Coleman , his biceps worked just fine nine times they meet and Ronnie lost .

[Hulkster]

Nice try but try again , what " New Level " of back development did Ronnie have that Yates didn't years eariler?

We're not talking about great arm development , or taper , or lumpiness lol what " New Level " of development did Ronnie have that Dorian did not?

define "new development".

if you are speaking about developing muscles in the back in the back to a level that had not yet been seen, well, than ronnie had "new development" for the reasons I listed.

if you are trying to say that Dorian developed muscles in the back that had not been seen up until that point, well, then you are wrong.

I would say that the last "new development' in terms of muscle was the appearence of striated glutes, which until Rich Gaspari, had not been seen on a bodybuilding stage.

[NeoSeminole]

What the f**k does " pop " have to do with a new level of back development ? please explain this , what new muscles are developed in Ronnie's back that Yates didin't have years eariler?

Establishing a new standard of development isn't limited to only developing new muscles. It's about bringing something new to the stage which surpases the previous standard. Both Dorian and Ronnie had very wide backs with great separation. However, Dorian's back always appeared flat. This is evident when Dorian is viewed from the side while hitting a rear double biceps. His back looks like a sheet of paper.





Ronnie's back is not only wide and separated, but it jumps out at you when he flexes. His back looks deep. Any pose is enhanced when the muscles pop. A bodybuilder who flexes and nothing happens is visually less impressive than a bodybuilder who's muscles 'come to life' when he poses.

[NarcissisticDeity]

define "new development".

if you are speaking about developing muscles in the back in the back to a level that had not yet been seen, well, than ronnie had "new development" for the reasons I listed.

if you are trying to say that Dorian developed muscles in the back that had not been seen up until that point, well, then you are wrong.

I would say that the last "new development' in terms of muscle was the appearence of striated glutes, which until Rich Gaspari, had not been seen on a bodybuilding stage.

No you are the jackass who claimed that Ronnie brought a " new level of back development never before seen in bodybuilding "  I called you out on this before and you never answered it because of the obvious , he has NO new level of development in the back

and don't try and turn this around on me I NEVER ONCE CLAIMED Dorian had developed muscles in his back that no one else had , I said in terms of development Ronnie brought nothing new that Yates didn't or Haney or Samir , or Arnold , I could go down the list but I digress you made that dumb claim and the scary part is you believe it lol

lumpiness 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Establishing a new standard of development isn't limited to only developing new muscles. It's about bringing something new to the stage which surpases the previous standard. Both Dorian and Ronnie had very wide backs with great separation. However, Dorian's back always appeared flat. This is evident when Dorian is viewed from the side while hitting a rear double biceps. His back looks like a sheet of paper.



Ronnie's back is not only wide and separated, but it jumps out at you when he flexes. His back looks deep. Any pose is enhanced when the muscles pop. A bodybuilder who flexes and nothing happens is visually less impressive than a bodybuilder who's muscles 'come to life' when he poses.

Again with the ' appears ' flat is it flat? look at this pic from the side does it ' appear ' flat ? no quite , and to imply nothing happens when Yates flexes his back is just plain retarded , seriously , again what does ' pop ' and jumps have to do with new development in the back NOTHING !

[NarcissisticDeity]

Here is the difference between a ' flat ' back and one that isn't ' flat '

[NeoSeminole]

Here is the difference between a ' flat ' back and one that isn't ' flat '

they look the same thickness to me. Paul is leaning forward while Dorian is leaning back to emphasize his width. Dorian's late are wider, that's for sure. Here is a better comparison of a flat back and a back that isn't flat.

[NarcissisticDeity]

they look the same thickness to me. Paul is leaning forward while Dorian is leaning back to emphasize his width. Dorian's late are wider, that's for sure. Here is a better comparison of a flat back and a back that isn't flat.

They look the same in thickness to you? lol two different angles on both the pictures you posted and Ronnie is closer to the camera which is facing UP at him , thats all a moot point , a back ' appearing ' flat has NOTHING to do with development of the back , especially a " new level " thats never been seen before.


lol flat appearing back

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[NeoSeminole]

ha ha ha, only with Dorian does he look thicker relaxed than flexing. The same thing happens when his biceps are relaxed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, only with Dorian does he look thicker relaxed than flexing. The same thing happens when his biceps are relaxed.

Wow you fit right in with the other Coleman nutt-huggers and you have their logic , new development means ' pop ' and Hulkster's ' lumpiness ' lol

[pumpster]

Here is the difference between a ' flat ' back and one that isn't ' flat '

Weak. He compares Yates' back against someone known for having a mediocre back, proving what exactly? Here's the front view: