Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[jwb]

exactly what I've been trying to say. I'm not doubting that Dorian was dryer than Ronnie. However, the difference isn't night and day like the Dorian nuthuggers believe. Ronnie had pretty damn good conditioning in 03. He was shredded everywhere and his lower back was crisp. Now add the fact that he was almost 30 lbs heavier than Dorian. It's easy to see why Ronnie would beat Dorian. The real discussion is who would win between 99 Ronnie and a prime Dorian.

why are we still comparing yates from 1993 to coleman 2003?

ya think if yates was born 5 years later and came up in the late 90's he'd be only 260lbs? he'd be 280 easy...

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, Flex and Shawn at their bests both have ab and thigh poses that destroy both yates and Coleman

That is a pose that neither one can compete with them.

This beats anything , Coleman , Ray or Wheeler can muster

[IceCold]

exactly what I've been trying to say. I'm not doubting that Dorian was dryer than Ronnie. However, the difference isn't night and day like the Dorian nuthuggers believe. Ronnie had pretty damn good conditioning in 03. He was shredded everywhere and his lower back was crisp. Now add the fact that he was almost 30 lbs heavier than Dorian. It's easy to see why Ronnie would beat Dorian. The real discussion is who would win between 99 Ronnie and Dorian.

i've said since the beginning, the only version ronnie would have a chance at yates is 03.

but dorian's conditioning i think wouldhave been too much for coleman.

dorian's conditioning would have made ronnie in 03 look like he showed up for a guest posing.  

(eventhough i think coleman in 03 is his and one of the best ever).

when most people think of coleman after he retires, it'll be from him in 03.  that was the only time i heard how dominant he was - at the time.  (despite no competition).

when ronnie came out in 99, he got applauce.

when ronnie came out in 03, he got "oh shit.  he's huge".  

i

[NarcissisticDeity]

I am not necessarily saying that dorian did not deserve to win every contest (although everyone and his uncle can see that 94 he should have lost).

but I am arguing that in almost every contest he competed in, he recieved scores that were too high given his flaws and the fact that guys beat him in poses such as the front double bi, ab and thigh, front relaxed in the symmetry round, side chest (nasser) etc etc..

What does this mean?

it means he was OVERRATED.

thats what it means.

Dorian was so great he was overrated lol great logic.

[jwb]

This beats anything , Coleman , Ray or Wheeler can muster

damn straight it does!

[carvedoutofwood]

seriously, please stay out of this thread.

ronnie has better condition than dorian?

and dorian has better biceps than ronnie.

almost as dumb as sucky saying that paul dillet had small delts.... honestly... leave... to say dorian had better biceps then the ronnie coleman?.... not even ND would agree... all kidding aside... go away bro

[Hulkster]

This beats anything , Coleman , Ray or Wheeler can muster

wow. a close up black and white shot that shows Yates alone and does not show his poor quads (relative to shawn, ronnie, and flex)

 

ND, grow up and post something that actually backs up your argument.

[NarcissisticDeity]

i've said since the beginning, the only version ronnie would have a chance at yates is 03.

but dorian's conditioning i think wouldhave been too much for coleman.

dorian's conditioning would have made ronnie in 03 look like he showed up for a guest posing. 

(eventhough i think coleman in 03 is his and one of the best ever).

when most people think of coleman after he retires, it'll be from him in 03.  that was the only time i heard how dominant he was - at the time.  (despite no competition).

when ronnie came out in 99, he got applauce.

when ronnie came out in 03, he got "oh shit.  he's huge". 

i

Great post !

[IceCold]

I am not necessarily saying that dorian did not deserve to win every contest
it means he was OVERRATED.

thats what it means.

yeah, that makes sense.


 

[Hulkster]

Dorian was so great he was overrated lol great logic.

you still have not reconciled all the pics and videos with all the perfect sores, even in 1994.

until you do, you have not proven me wrong.

[IceCold]

almost as dumb as sucky saying that paul dillet had small delts.... honestly... leave... to say dorian had better biceps then the ronnie coleman?.... not even ND would agree... all kidding aside... go away bro

is this guy serious?

hulkster,

is this guy your younger cousin or something?

[NarcissisticDeity]

wow. a close up black and white shot that shows Yates alone and does not show his poor quads (relative to shawn, ronnie, and flex)

 

ND, grow up and post something that actually backs up your argument.

Owned very easy and its 1994 , you know the contest where Shawn said he got the place he deserved  and comming from the hypocrite that said Flex could never beat Ronnie at his best because of lat width , but Shawn can without it? lol hypocrite

[IceCold]

you still have not reconciled all the pics and videos with all the perfect sores, even in 1994.

until you do, you have not proven me wrong.

you dont get it with the pics and videos.

you dont get it with the judges clearly stating yates as the winner.

you dont get it when guys you say should have beaten dorian, admit how great he was.

[NeoSeminole]

LMFAO you can tell you're new lol

ha ha ha, dumbass. I'm not sure what the difference is. Dorian and Ronnie both have striated lats and glutes in the pics. I hope you are not referring to Dorian's lower back. Ronnie kills Dorian in striations and separations everywhere else, but you claim that's genetic. Dorian's lower back is genetically more striated than Ronnie's. So what is the difference in conditioning between the 2 pics?

[NarcissisticDeity]

you still have not reconciled all the pics and videos with all the perfect sores, even in 1994.

until you do, you have not proven me wrong.

genius you're making a claim that contradicts the judges , its ON YOU to prove them wrong , Shawn proved you wrong when in 1994 he said I got the place I deserved , consider youself OWNED kid.

[Hulkster]

ND, dorian's quads suck in that pic and his waist is as thick as Lou Ferrigno's.

You expect anyone to belive that it is better than this:



if shawn was completing the pose in the shot you posted, it would be game over. everyone can see that.

[NeoSeminole]

why are we still comparing yates from 1993 to coleman 2003?

Where did I mention I was comparing Ronnie to 93 Dorian? I'm referring to Dorian in 95 (considered by many his best year).

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha, dumbass. I'm not sure what the difference is. Dorian and Ronnie both have striated lats and glutes in the pics. I hope you are not referring to Dorian's lower back. Ronnie kills Dorian in striations and separations everywhere else, but you claim that's genetic. Dorian's lower back is genetically more striated than Ronnie's. So what is the difference in conditioning between the 2 pics?

Overall conditioning is the key , Yates was dry all over , Ronnie wasn't Ronnie's back was ' realtively ' soft compared to Ronnie 98 nevermind Dorian at his best

[carvedoutofwood]

ICE your trying to say that dorian had better biceps then ronnie... come on, LMAO,and once again heres the proof of dorian saying that he would get beat by a prim ronnie coleman... (12/12/05) http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/radioarchive.htm

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, dorian's quads suck in that pic and his waist is as thick as Lou Ferrigno's.

You expect anyone to belive that it is better than this:



if shawn was completing the pose in the shot you posted, it would be game over. everyone can see that.

His quads suck? lol Hulkster this is where you crossover to ignorant , read the criteria and its plainly evident Dorian is just owning Shawn and everyone else in the ab/thigh its not even close .

[NeoSeminole]

Overall conditioning is the key , Yates was dry all over , Ronnie wasn't Ronnie's back was ' realtively ' soft compared to Ronnie 98 nevermind Dorian at his best

Please explain to me how you determine who's dryer. Isn't the point of conditioning to display muscle quality through the skin? Ronnie has more separations and striations from top to bottom. What does Dorian have the Ronnie doesn't? I don't think even you know the answer.

[jwb]

Where did I mention I was comparing Ronnie to 93 Dorian? I'm referring to Dorian in 95 (considered by many his best year).

even 95 to 03 is crazy... yates would have been much bigger in 03 if he was 5 years younger and started winning the O in 98 instead of 92...

the sport changed a lot in those 8 years

[NarcissisticDeity]

ICE your trying to say that dorian had better biceps then ronnie... come on, LMAO,and once again heres the proof of dorian saying that he would get beat by a prim ronnie coleman... (12/12/05) http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/radioarchive.htm

Here's the quote in CONTEXT

" Thats very hard for me to answer , I'd probably , Ronnie would probably beat me I guess , I don't know , its hard to say you know , its hard to say but , Ronnie now is you know , what is he , Ronnie is comming in great shape probably 15 - 20lbs heavier than I was and that might tip the balance in Ronnies favor probably , although uh I probably have a little bit better balance and better conditioning on the day of the conest , and with Ronnies got you know is so ahead in muscluar size that uh you know they would probably go with Ronnie I would think , it would be down to the judges , its a hard question for me to answer you know. "

They would probably go with Ronnie , key word !

[Hulkster]

genius you're making a claim that contradicts the judges , its ON YOU to prove them wrong , Shawn proved you wrong when in 1994 he said I got the place I deserved , consider youself OWNED kid.

 Actually, its quite easy to prove that Yates did not deserve all those perfect scores:

[NeoSeminole]

even 95 to 03 is crazy... yates would have been much bigger in 03 if he was 5 years younger and started winning the O in 98 instead of 92...

If Flex had wider lats and bigger calves, he would have beaten Dorian. Or if Shawn Ray was taller, he would have beaten Dorian. It's too easy to speculate this and that. Unfortunately, it never happened. So we can only compare what we have.