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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10975 on: October 30, 2006, 04:16:36 PM »
Don't forget the rest of Yates' "big 3": calves, forearms and "graininess". hahaahahahahahahaah




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10976 on: October 30, 2006, 04:17:32 PM »
I thought this thread meant truce ::)

How many pictures have you all posted of Yates and Ronnie? Theres still more?

Oh yeah Dorian looks like trash

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10977 on: October 30, 2006, 04:19:11 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10978 on: October 30, 2006, 04:20:18 PM »
ha ha ha, Dorian looks like a mound of sand. He's smooth in that pic.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10979 on: October 30, 2006, 04:22:20 PM »
;)

Why do you keep posting pics of dorian looking like trash. At least try to find "some" pics where he looks decent.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10980 on: October 30, 2006, 04:22:49 PM »
ha ha ha, Dorian looks like a mound of sand. He's smooth in that pic.
Okay he's relaxed but do you honestly believe he's smooth? please tell me you're kidding? then again you seem to think 03 he was as dry as Yates 95 lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10981 on: October 30, 2006, 04:23:47 PM »
Why do you keep posting pics of dorian looking like trash. At least try to find "some" pics where he looks decent.

When you make statements like he looks like trash you reveal yourself as ignorant .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10982 on: October 30, 2006, 04:26:43 PM »
Okay he's relaxed but do you honestly believe he's smooth? please tell me you're kidding? then again you seem to think 03 he was as dry as Yates 95

Smooth is characterized by a lack of bumps and crevices. Dorian has relatively few separations and striations, hence why people say he looks smooth.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10983 on: October 30, 2006, 04:30:09 PM »
When you make statements like he looks like trash you reveal yourself as ignorant .

Let me clarify that statement. Ronnie owns Dorian  :)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10984 on: October 30, 2006, 04:31:51 PM »
Let me clarify that statement. Ronnie owns Dorian  :)

Thats where you're wrong , Dorian faced him 9 times and owned him all 9 times.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10985 on: October 30, 2006, 04:33:04 PM »

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10986 on: October 30, 2006, 04:33:22 PM »
I thought this thread meant truce ::)

How many pictures have you all posted of Yates and Ronnie? Theres still more?

Oh yeah Dorian looks like trash

LOL

there are lots more pics:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10987 on: October 30, 2006, 04:34:15 PM »
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Dorian has relatively few separations and striations, hence why people say he looks smooth.
exactly.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10988 on: October 30, 2006, 04:35:43 PM »
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10989 on: October 30, 2006, 04:36:13 PM »
Why?

The website was a haven for the scans of yourself and others which were excellent to say the least!!  It also had info on little known ironage bodybuilders who have since been forgotten.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10990 on: October 30, 2006, 04:36:58 PM »
Thats where you're wrong , Dorian faced him 9 times and owned him all 9 times.

Give me a break son! Ronnie was a neophyte when he competed against Dorian. You might as well compare 99 Ronnie to 91 Dorian.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10991 on: October 30, 2006, 04:39:33 PM »
Give me a break son! Ronnie was a neophyte when he competed against Dorian. You might as well compare 99 Ronnie to 91 Dorian.

ND cannot be biased against his loved one.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10992 on: October 30, 2006, 04:51:38 PM »
Give me a break son! Ronnie was a neophyte when he competed against Dorian. You might as well compare 99 Ronnie to 91 Dorian.

91 Dorian was 239lbs and 99 Ronnie was 257lbs and ironically enough he was 255lbs in 97 and 250lbs in 1996 so nice try kid.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10993 on: October 30, 2006, 04:54:05 PM »
Smooth is characterized by a lack of bumps and crevices. Dorian has relatively few separations and striations, hence why people say he looks smooth.

Smooth is water under the skin obscuring the muscle beneath , Dorian didn't have this problem , Ronnie did and he went to Teh Chad to sort that out and he did , until Ronnie put some weight back and then slowly but surely his dryness went to shit.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10994 on: October 30, 2006, 04:54:51 PM »
The website was a haven for the scans of yourself and others which were excellent to say the least!!  It also had info on little known ironage bodybuilders who have since been forgotten.

I rarely post there , but I still do check it out a lot.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10995 on: October 30, 2006, 05:05:18 PM »
Smooth is water under the skin obscuring the muscle beneath , Dorian didn't have this problem , Ronnie did and he went to Teh Chad to sort that out and he did , until Ronnie put some weight back and then slowly but surely his dryness went to shit.

Dorian looks like he's holding water in these pics b/c his muscle definition is obscured.








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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10996 on: October 30, 2006, 05:13:19 PM »
We call that the "no bis" shot-totally ruins the pose for Yates, BTW since it's referred to by judges as the "rear double-biceps".. ;D
its the name if the fucking pose. biceps are only a fraction of what is getting looked at. look at how much realestate yates has compared to ronnie(who does look great). look how huge yates hams are.  he really is dwarfing ronnie there. yates hardness and density is killing ronnie. dont even start with ronnie aint flexing all the way either. ronnie has great awesome peaked biceps, but that is one small muscle group compared to the others.
when the judges are asking for the rear double bi, that is the pose name(again). the bis play such a small role in the overall pose, like the rock says "it doesnt matter".  i would go so far as to say yates is crushing ronnie on everything except biceps. the pose is about the biceps, hamstrings, calves, the entire back, traps, low back, deltoids(again ron getting squashed). of course this was before ronnie really knew what he was doing(or actually being told what to do by teh chad) but to compare them there, get real. ronnie was lucky to get that call out, and ive already said that ronnie was looking great but in that particular pic.....get real. oh, i forgot to mention the calves.  ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10997 on: October 30, 2006, 05:19:04 PM »
Dorian looks like he's holding water in these pics b/c his muscle definition is obscured.



Listen to me , Dorian is NOT holding water in any of those pics , you really don't know much about bodybuilding when you make those statements , he has been described as having tissue paper for skin you can't get any dryer than that , don't mistake his apparent lack of overwhelming striations and vasculairty as lack of dryness because its not , whats amazing is Dorian had no problems getting dry he didn't need a guru to do so either , Dorian's problem in 1997 even at his worse was NOT conditioning it was torn muscles , he still had a shredded midsection ( although show more distension than usual ) and striated glutes , even at his worse his conditioning wasn't an issue.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10998 on: October 30, 2006, 05:23:49 PM »
Listen to me , Dorian is NOT holding water in any of those pics , you really don't know much about bodybuilding when you make those statements , he has been described as having tissue paper for skin you can't get any dryer than that , don't mistake his apparent lack of overwhelming striations and vasculairty as lack of dryness because its not , whats amazing is Dorian had no problems getting dry he didn't need a guru to do so either , Dorian's problem in 1997 even at his worse was NOT conditioning it was torn muscles , he still had a shredded midsection ( although show more distension than usual ) and striated glutes , even at his worse his conditioning wasn't an issue.

Skin thickness has nothing to do with conditioning (as far as I know). Some people have thicker skin than others, which explains a lack of detail. Take Jay Cutler for example. I've asked you repeatedly to tell me how you determine dryness. The best you can come up with is "look at the difference." Well, I'm looking at the difference and it's the same as in the pics you showed me comparing Dorian to Ronnie.

Somehow this is dry to you.





but this isn't? ???







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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #10999 on: October 30, 2006, 05:38:37 PM »
Skin thickness has nothing to do with conditioning (as far as I know). Some people have thicker skin than others, which explains a lack of detail. Take Jay Cutler for example. I've asked you repeatedly to tell me how you determine dryness. The best you can come up with is "look at the difference." Well, I'm looking at the difference and it's the same as in the pics you showed me comparing Dorian to Ronnie.

No I explained to you four times already , conditioning is the lack of bodyfat , sub-q fat and water , if you have any of these than you can't see the underlying muscle to its fullest , striations are a indication of great conditioning to a certain degree , Yates had a striated christmass tree at 300lbs offseason but he was carrying fat else where , when a bodybuilder diets down he obviously tries to lose as much fat & water as possible while retaining the most muscle its a very difficult process

Dorian won for a host of reasons but among them was he was the biggest and the dryest , its easy to be ripped to the bone at 195lbs extremely difficult to be when you're 257lbs , before Dorian you were either big and not so dry or small and super-dry it was extremely hard to be both , and this was one of the main problems with a lot of Yates' contemporaries , Levrone could have gave Yates a serious run for his money if he could be just as big and just as dry , and you always got two versions of Kevin the super-ripped 235 pounder of the bigger and realtitively smoother 250 pounder

When you look at Yates is body is simply devoid of bodyfat , sub-q fat and water , he's simply the biggest nd dryest athlete of the lot .