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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12400 on: November 07, 2006, 02:52:02 PM »
Actually, if Flex came with 93O form to the 99O he would have defeated Coleman. That proves once again that Yates would dominate Coleman. It's also fairly obvious that pumpster is a racist :-X

no, I don't know about that.  I don't even read his posts anymore, he hasn't said anything new in about 470 pages it's the same thing over and over again, same pics same line of logic same bullshit. I don't know if he's a racist but I do know he's a complete cement head who can't stand the fact that someone doesn't agreee 100% with what he says.  Sorry pumpster, I think you provide decent info on the training forum but your an idiot here.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12401 on: November 07, 2006, 02:54:49 PM »
no, I don't know about that.  I don't even read his posts anymore, he hasn't said anything new in about 470 pages it's the same thing over and over again, same pics same line of logic same bullshit. I don't know if he's a racist but I do know he's a complete cement head who can't stand the fact that someone doesn't agreee 100% with what he says.  Sorry pumpster, I think you provide decent info on the training forum but your an idiot here.

No, pumpster is horrible in the training section as well. He advocates poor training methods....and to back it up, he has two messed up shoulders :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12402 on: November 07, 2006, 02:59:56 PM »
Actually, if Flex came with 93O form to the 99O he would have defeated Coleman. That proves once again that Yates would dominate Coleman. It's also fairly obvious that pumpster is a racist :-X

 You have transformed into ND in a matter of hours ::).  

no way could flex 93 beat coleman 99. I am convinced of that now.

Ronnie had all of Flex's incredible detail and shape, but with way more size and width

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12403 on: November 07, 2006, 03:00:30 PM »
No, pumpster is horrible in the training section as well. He advocates poor training methods....and to back it up, he has two messed up shoulders :-\

he doesn't come off that bad over there to me, at least not as bad as in this thread, in this thread he's a complete waste of space...well most of this thread is a waste of space.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12404 on: November 07, 2006, 03:12:11 PM »
A few comments, on the occasion of the 500th page 8)

Personally, for me, and just about everyone on the board who has seen all these pics and videos in the last 2 days, the thread is over. Ronnie 99 was just better than dorian 93. He looked much harder thanks to all the deep cuts and had better shape in all areas.

Dorian looked good during the prejudging clip, but remember: the shots are all at a distance. he looked better than Flex and shawn that year.  But Flex and Shawn were not Ronnie 99. They would be dwarfed by Ronnie 99 just as Dorian 93 outsized them.  Only Ronnie 99 has their brand of muscular quality

compare dorian and ronnie close up, and this is what you get

dorian gets beat. plain and simple:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12405 on: November 07, 2006, 03:15:20 PM »
for me and just about everyone the debate is over:


1999 Ronnie as was stated by and echoed by many in the last two days was
"in a league of his own"

This is taking nothing away from dorian who was a deserving winner in 1993.

But he just didn't look this good.

sorry:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12406 on: November 07, 2006, 03:23:28 PM »
ronnie 98 vs Ronnie 99:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12407 on: November 07, 2006, 03:25:23 PM »
I don't see how preferring this:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12408 on: November 07, 2006, 03:25:56 PM »
over this:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12409 on: November 07, 2006, 03:28:08 PM »
makes anyone a racist.

just because one is black and the other is white does not mean race is involved.

look at the differences in their physiques: ronnie is far more detailed and shapely than Dorian, as good as he was.

its not racism, its common sense as far as bodybuilding competition goes.

ask the rest of the board: they will all agree that ronnie 99 is better than Dorian 93, especially after seeing all these great shots and videos.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12410 on: November 07, 2006, 03:31:25 PM »
Ronnie isn't even close to Yates when you examine both in lieu of the IFBB judging criteria. This is why Yates would win...not becuase Coleman looks better in your opinion.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12411 on: November 07, 2006, 03:39:28 PM »
Ronnie isn't even close to Yates when you examine both in lieu of the IFBB judging criteria. This is why Yates would win...not becuase Coleman looks better in your opinion.

no, not close at all ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12412 on: November 07, 2006, 03:40:12 PM »
A few comments, on the occasion of the 500th page 8)

Personally, for me, and just about everyone on the board who has seen all these pics and videos in the last 2 days, the thread is over. Ronnie 99 was just better than dorian 93. He looked much harder thanks to all the deep cuts and had better shape in all areas.

Dorian looked good during the prejudging clip, but remember: the shots are all at a distance. he looked better than Flex and shawn that year.  But Flex and Shawn were not Ronnie 99. They would be dwarfed by Ronnie 99 just as Dorian 93 outsized them.  Only Ronnie 99 has their brand of muscular quality

compare dorian and ronnie close up, and this is what you get

dorian gets beat. plain and simple:

I wouldn't speak for the board, if I was you. Thats fairly presumptuous.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12413 on: November 07, 2006, 03:40:16 PM »
makes anyone a racist.

just because one is black and the other is white does not mean race is involved.

look at the differences in their physiques: ronnie is far more detailed and shapely than Dorian, as good as he was.

its not racism, its common sense as far as bodybuilding competition goes.

ask the rest of the board: they will all agree that ronnie 99 is better than Dorian 93, especially after seeing all these great shots and videos.

Well when you make comments like " Yates is a blocky white guy " you open yourself up for critique

and you're see what you want in Ronnie's phsyique and its very impressive in 99 without question , however   
I always laugh when you say Ronnie is more shapely and he is to an extent but you gloss over all his unshapely muscles , like abdominals , triceps , glutes , forearms , calves and cling on for dear life with taper  and detail , when in the IFBB judging criteria is constantly asks of each pose to be judged by , density , thickness , and balance , you can't cherry pick the criteria for what you like and dismiss the rest , thats very ignorant of what they're looking for , but its very obvious why you ignore the criteria because according to it Ronnie would lose to Yates.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12414 on: November 07, 2006, 03:40:45 PM »
Ronnie isn't even close to Yates when you examine both in lieu of the IFBB judging criteria. This is why Yates would win...not becuase Coleman looks better in your opinion.

you really have turned into ND.

your posts are now indistinguishable.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12415 on: November 07, 2006, 03:41:22 PM »
Yates is smoking Ronnie there...much more balance

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12416 on: November 07, 2006, 03:42:36 PM »
I wouldn't presume to speak for the board, if I was you. Thats fairly presumptuous.

not really.

in lieu of the recent pics and videos, it would be a landslide for ronnie if another poll was conducted...

actually, it was a landslide win for Ronnie the first time around...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12417 on: November 07, 2006, 03:43:21 PM »
Yates is smoking Ronnie there...much more balance

I think ND has broken into pobrecito's house and his using his computer!
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12418 on: November 07, 2006, 03:43:43 PM »
Yates is also far more intelligent that Ronnie

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12419 on: November 07, 2006, 03:45:20 PM »
you really have turned into ND.

your posts are now indistinguishable.

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A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Hulkster how do you respond to Dorian having the clear cut advantage of Ronnie in , muscular density , muscular density , balanced development and better overall conditioning , these are clear cut reasons why Yates would beat Ronnie , reguardless of who you think looks better in a particular pose .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12420 on: November 07, 2006, 03:47:01 PM »
Yates is also far more intelligent that Ronnie

why? because ronnie is black and speaks with a southern drawl?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12421 on: November 07, 2006, 03:48:56 PM »
why? because ronnie is black and speaks with a southern drawl?

 ::)



Dorian is the last and final Mr. Olympia who doesn't need a drug and nutrition "guru" to help him win the Olympia. He had a masterful grasp on those fundamentals of bodybuilding.

Ronnie on the other hand has made some posts on the prosource forums that really make you wonder :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12422 on: November 07, 2006, 03:49:21 PM »
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Hulkster how do you respond to Dorian having the clear cut advantage of Ronnie in , muscular density , muscular density , balanced development and better overall conditioning ,

see, this is what you do not seem to understand.

look at the pics and video's:
He doesn't!!:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12423 on: November 07, 2006, 03:51:10 PM »
Dorian is the last and final Mr. Olympia who doesn't need a drug and nutrition "guru" to help him win the Olympia. He had a masterful grasp on those fundamentals of bodybuilding.

Ronnie on the other hand has made some posts on the prosource forums that really make you wonder :-\

ummm.. I would not call training so heavy to the point where I tear myself up even early in my career (1993) a "masterful grasp on the fundamentals of bodbuilding"

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #12424 on: November 07, 2006, 03:51:39 PM »
see, this is what you do not seem to understand.

look at the pics and video's:
He doesn't!!:


Hulkster he really does , you think I'm making these advantages up? these are things the judges are specifically are asking for and Dorian clearly has , you can post that handsclasped mostmuscular & crab shot all you want it doesn't mean he could beat Dorian in most of the mandatory poses.