Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

our basis is the IFBB Judging Criteria....your basis is your biased view. One has credibility and obviously yours doesn't

if you still think that dorian has "better dryness and better conditioning" after seeing these pics then you might be using the criteria, but you sure as hell don't know how to apply it.

[pobrecito]

see, this is what I mean.

if you take that word for word, that means that the judges do NOT consider:

-vascularity
- glutes
-striations
-thigh sweep
-waist size
-taper


which is really naive if you think that none of this stuff matters to the judges.

How OLD are these critera? from the 1970's??

This is the 2000's!  ALL of this stuff is considered now.

LOL...once again, how predictable...Hulkster adding his own bias into the judging criteria.

[Hulkster]

are you actually trying to deny that the judges don't look at all this stuff now?

 

[pobrecito]

if you still think that dorian has "better dryness and better conditioning" after seeing these pics then you might be using the criteria, but you sure as hell don't know how to apply it.

and you are the same person who said that Dorian was the most overrated BB of all-time...that just shows that YOU have NO CLUE how to apply the judging criteria.....fortunately for us, the IFBB judges did follow this protocol and thus you have Dorian dominating the IFBB.

[Hulkster]

and you are the same person who said that Dorian was the most overrated BB of all-time...that just shows that YOU have NO CLUE how to apply the judging criteria.....fortunately for us, the IFBB judges did follow this protocol and thus you have Dorian dominating the IFBB.

dorian was still overrated.
why?

because 1993 was the only year he really looked good:

[pobrecito]

Funny...here is he destroying your boy Shawn

[NarcissisticDeity]

see, this is what I mean.

if you take that word for word, that means that the judges do NOT consider:

-vascularity
- glutes
-striations
-thigh sweep
-waist size
-taper


which is really naive if you think that none of this stuff matters to the judges.

How OLD are these critera? from the 1970's??

This is the 2000's!  ALL of this stuff is considered now.

That citeria my friend if off the I.F.B.B. website and its 2006 

waist size with ho-hum shapped abdominals , lagging behind Dorian in terms of crisp muscularity in the serattus/intercostles/obliques , what the sense? Ronnie has a narrower waist , Yet it can't compare with Yates' midsection

Vascularity you always grasp at straws with this one , this is NOT going to shift a contest in anyone favor

Glutes - Ronnie may have more striations on his , but Yates' isn't lacking them maybe if Dorian didn't have any at all this would make a difference but it doesn't and they're oddly shapped and overdeveloped

Quad Sweep - Ronnie does have a better sweep to his quads but whats the sense when you have poor lower=leg balance & now calves

Taper - again you're under this delusion that the guy with the best taper is an automatic winner its NOT Yates at his best has a very good taper , not as good as Ronnies but this isn't a deal-maker/breaker

These are all minscule or imagined edges that pale in comparision to density , thickness , balance , and haing calvess and NO gnyo .

You're behind the 8 ball on this one kid.

[NarcissisticDeity]

dorian was still overrated.
why?

because 1993 was the only year he really looked good:

See this is where your obvious HATE for Dorian come into play lol he looked amazing in 1992/1993/1995 still a clear cut winner in 1992/1996 and should have lost in 1997 but was still good enough to beat Nasser would no back.

[nicorulez]

See this is where your obvious HATE for Dorian come into play lol he looked amazing in 1992/1993/1995 still a clear cut winner in 1992/1996 and should have lost in 1997 but was still good enough to beat Nasser would no back.

Agreed ND...ah screw it...Doz would win....no wait...Hulkster, I don't want to have to do CPR on u.  I still think it would be close with Ronnie the winner, but damnit man.  Give Doz his due.  That is all any of us have asked.  No, you are never going to change your opinion, and hell the board would be quite boring if you did.  However, give Dorian his props and ND has given Ronnie his due.  Thus, you two can agree to disagree and we can move on to debates on TA against Vince Goodrum. Peace guys.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Agreed ND...ah screw it...Doz would win....no wait...Hulkster, I don't want to have to do CPR on u.  I still think it would be close with Ronnie the winner, but damnit man.  Give Doz his due.  That is all any of us have asked.  No, you are never going to change your opinion, and hell the board would be quite boring if you did.  However, give Dorian his props and ND has given Ronnie his due.  Thus, you two can agree to disagree and we can move on to debates on TA against Vince Goodrum. Peace guys.

Hell I was more than willing to end this ' debate ' 500 pages ago , but Hulkster wasn't man enough to meet me half way . 

[Shockwave]

Then those new Dorian pics and vids showed up, and well sealed the deal in Dorian's favor 

[Hulkster]

I think the more burning question is who was better Ronnie 2001 AC or Ronnie 1999 Olympia :

[Hulkster]

Hell I was more than willing to end this ' debate ' 500 pages ago , but Hulkster wasn't man enough to meet me half way . 

truces are for pussies

[Shockwave]

I think the more burning question is who was better Ronnie 2001 AC or Ronnie 1999 Olympia :

Ronnie 99.
Back to Ronnie vs. Dorian.

[Hulkster]

you guys misunderstand me.

I think Dorian 93 looked GREAT.

hell, what did I say earlier: he was a deserving winner, even over flex and ray that year.

but the fact is, post tear, Dorian never really had the same impact.

I just think Ronnie 99 was as close to unbeatable, flaws and all, as you can get:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

you guys misunderstand me.

I think Dorian 93 looked GREAT.

hell, what did I say earlier: he was a deserving winner, even over flex and ray that year.

but the fact is, post tear, Dorian never really had the same impact.

I just think Ronnie 99 was as close to unbeatable, flaws and all, as you can get:

 

So you've come to your senses? Now he's not the most overrated bodybuilder of all time?

[Hulkster]

ps notice how most of the incredible pics from the 99 show are not of mandatory poses, but of the few that we have (rear lat, rear double bi, front double bi) they are FANTASTIC.

the others, (side chest, front lat etc) would be no exception, except for the ab and thigh.

[dearth]

I think the more burning question is who was better Ronnie 2001 AC or Ronnie 1999 Olympia :

the only "burning" question is whether you lube up before you post your ronnie pictures

[pumpster]

Agreed ND...ah screw it...Doz would win....no wait...Hulkster, I don't want to have to do CPR on u.  I still think it would be close with Ronnie the winner, but damnit man.  Give Doz his due.

Nic once again in full flight, busily catering to sides you PUZZY...

[Hulkster]

So you've come to your senses? Now he's not the most overrated bodybuilder of all time?

pre-tear: not overrated.

post tear: overrated:

 

[pumpster]

Quote from: Hulkster on Today at 06:12:11 PM
A few comments, on the occasion of the 500th page

Personally, for me, and just about everyone on the board who has seen all these pics and videos in the last 2 days, the thread is over. Ronnie 99 was just better than dorian 93. He looked much harder thanks to all the deep cuts and had better shape in all areas.

Dorian looked good during the prejudging clip, but remember: the shots are all at a distance. he looked better than Flex and shawn that year.  But Flex and Shawn were not Ronnie 99. They would be dwarfed by Ronnie 99 just as Dorian 93 outsized them.  Only Ronnie 99 has their brand of muscular quality

compare dorian and ronnie close up, and this is what you get

dorian gets beat. plain and simple:


I wouldn't speak for the board, if I was you. Thats fairly presumptuous.

It means you're ignorant of the getbig poll which obliterates your argument.

Getbig poll: Coleman >> Yates, and that was BEFORE the video clips and this final decisive round of pics..

ND & SUCKY are now officially in backpeddle mode, trotting out "IFBB official judging criteria" and and discussing forearms, because it's over except to the suckers.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ps notice how most of the incredible pics from the 99 show are not of mandatory poses, but of the few that we have (rear lat, rear double bi, front double bi) they are FANTASTIC.

the others, (side chest, front lat etc) would be no exception, except for the ab and thigh.

And he still has all of the forementioned flaws and deficiencies that would prevent him from beating Yates

[NarcissisticDeity]

pre-tear: not overrated.

post tear: overrated:

 

1995 he was most certainly NOT overrated

[pumpster]

Its still beyond me how anyone can look at yates here and say he doesn't look like shit

You mean like this? Inquiring minds want to know if those are boils or lessions on his skin-anyone? 

[pumpster]

Quote from: sculpture on Today at 06:54:53 PM
Its still beyond me how anyone can look at yates here and say he doesn't look like shit


Read the judging criteria and show me anywhere where it says the words "looks" or "aesthetics"

Rampant nerdism to suggest that everything goes back to the manual. hahahahahahaah