Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pobrecito]

damn, Dorian had a better taper than Ronnie. It appears Ronnie carried much more of his weight in his quads, whereas Yates clearly has wider lats/back.

Dorian has a better taper than Ronnie

[Hulkster]

Nothing you say? lol

according to the folks over at bodybuilding dungeon, many of those shots (the backstage ones and esp. the drinking one) are photoshopped.

[fonz]

they both are mr.olympia. they eat like pigs
who gives a fuck to a tiny waist. whats important is when they flex unhuman muscles is what u see.......

[Hulkster]

Ronnie had a gut in 98

maybe so.

but just look at that TAPER!

dorian would be jeleaous of that one

[Hulkster]

LOL even nasser is staring in awe of the taper

[pobrecito]

damn, Dorian had a better taper than Ronnie. It appears Ronnie carried much more of his weight in his quads, whereas Yates clearly has wider lats/back.




Dorian's taper clearly is superior to Ronnie 99 And Dorian's taper would have been even more superior to a 98 Ronnie due to the dramatic lat width difference which Ronnie made up a little with increase width in 99. But it's clear Dorian has a better taper. So much for all that crap you have been spewing for 500+ pages now

Read that Hulky

[Hulkster]

no, dorian does NOT have better taper than this:

[pumpster]

Yates with a remarkable lack of detail in color shots, as well as less taper.

The definitive view of Coleman's superior taper, greater width, smaller waist and far greater detail.

[Hulkster]

look at it this way:

we all know Ronnie and Dorian have virtually identical lat width.

but Ronnie 99 has a noticably smaller waist (as small as chris and flex's)

and noticably better thigh sweep.

So as far as taper is concerned this is a no brainer.

If more screencaps are posted from 99, you will see just how good Ronnie's taper is in the prejudging.

[pobrecito]

damn, Dorian had a better taper than Ronnie. It appears Ronnie carried much more of his weight in his quads, whereas Yates clearly has wider lats/back.




Dorian's taper clearly is superior to Ronnie 99 And Dorian's taper would have been even more superior to a 98 Ronnie due to the dramatic lat width difference which Ronnie made up a little with increase width in 99. But it's clear Dorian has a better taper. So much for all that crap you have been spewing for 500+ pages now

It's blatantly obvious Yates has the better taper. You CANNOT look at these two pictures and say differently That would be as dumb as saying yates has better arms than COleman

[pumpster]

It's blatantly obvious Yates has the better taper. You CANNOT look at these two pictures and say differently

The only thing that's blatantly obvious is that pubes is comparing Yates in his best shape against Coleman at a much higher bodyweight. 

[pobrecito]

The only thing that's blatantly obvious is that pubes is comparing Yates in his best shape against Coleman at a much higher bodyweight. 

That's Coleman in 99 buddy. 257lbs both Yates and Coleman.

[pumpster]

Here's the proper angle:

Leaner than Yates, AND without Yates' oblique problem. Equal or better density.

[pumpster]

With better posing, Coleman's triceps size advantage would be clearer. Correctly posed as Yates does, the arm is firmly compressed against the side, to increase the illusion of size.

Coleman never does this: his tri size advantage would be further exaggerated with proper posing, with the arm brought forward instead of back, & braced against the side.

He is Yates' side-tri in the same position, without the arm braced. Of course he's not tensing but the biggest difference with Yates is having the arm pressed against the side.

[pobrecito]

Here's the proper angle:

Leaner than Yates, AND without Yates' oblique problem. Equal or better density.

The only thing this picture tells us is that Coleman had a gut even when he tried to suck it in, a problem Dorian never had. And that picture tells us NOTHING about taper. The following two pictures clearly demonstrate that Yates has A) wider lats B) a superior taper. To argue that would be assinine as it is blatantly obvious. It is clear that Coleman carries more weight in his quads and Dorian more in his back.

[pumpster]

The only thing this picture tells us is that Coleman had a gut even when he tried to suck it in, a problem Dorian never had.

Only true if relying on those particular pics.

[Hulkster]

hold on.

People are trying to say that Dorian had a better taper than Ronnie because of one pic?   

what about all the tons of pics out there where Ronnie's taper destroys dorian?

[Hulkster]

exactly, ND and Sucky don't seem to understand this.

uh...there is a whole lot that Sucky and ND don't seem to understand...

[NarcissisticDeity]

uh...there is a whole lot that Sucky and ND don't seem to understand...

I understand the I.F.B.B. judging criteria 

[pobrecito]

hold on.

People are trying to say that Dorian had a better taper than Ronnie because of one pic?   

what about all the tons of pics out there where Ronnie's taper destroys dorian?

The problem with your thought is that you are posting pictures of Ronnie when he is sucking in his waist and you have Dorian in a true relaxed state. The pictures I posted of the ab/thigh is an excellent comparison of taper becuase both guys are showing their waists at their smallest and flaring their lats out as wide as possible. And it is clear Dorian has the wider lats (Ronnie carries more of his weight in his legs). Despite having the wider waist, by virtue of his wider lats, Dorian has a better taper.

[pobrecito]

Hulkster, do you see the difference here?

[Deadpool]

536 pages, and the debate goes on...

[NarcissisticDeity]

. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

Also they look for

A detailed assessment of the various muscle groups should
be made during the comparisons, at which time it helps the judge
to compare muscle shape, density, and definition while still
bearing in mind the competitor’s overall balanced development.
The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

I don't know how after looking at the criteria and both pictures how anyone can say that Ronnie beats Dorian in ths side triceps , Dorian's clear advantage is balance compare pictures Ronnie's arm balance is off his biceps/triceps ( which are pressed against his lats ) are way out of proportion with his forearms , his lower balance is off as well , his calves are not in proportion with his quads , he's lagging behind in balanced development , not to mention Yates has the better shaped triceps , and has the egde in density and conditioning , this pose is a clear cut Yates win .

[Hulkster]

check out these shots from 98:

the ab and thigh showcases Ronnie's tiny waist and fantastic quad sweep. He is not fully crunching yet, so its hard to tell what his lats will look like in the pose.

now, look at the rear lat spread: just as in 99, his lats are just as wide as dorian's but with a smaller waist creating a better taper.

[NeoSeminole]

The problem with your thought is that you are posting pictures of Ronnie when he is sucking in his waist and you have Dorian in a true relaxed state.

Both of them relaxed. Ronnie still has a narrower waist. Notice the shoulder to waist difference?

The pictures I posted of the ab/thigh is an excellent comparison of taper becuase both guys are showing their waists at their smallest and flaring their lats out as wide as possible. And it is clear Dorian has the wider lats (Ronnie carries more of his weight in his legs). Despite having the wider waist, by virtue of his wider lats, Dorian has a better taper.

the evidence shows Ronnie and Dorian had the same lat width. However, Ronnie has better taper by virtue of his narrower waist.