no, you got it wrong.
it is:
8>6
and 25>14
i think both numbers are a bit misleading.
it really has to do with who the competition was/is.
for instance shawn has 2 wins (if you count his dq from the arnold) and darrem charles has like 7.
who is better?
look at who shawn competed against vs. who darrem competed against.
look at who dorian competed against vs. who ronnie competed against.
you and pumpster will say that doesnt matter. of course, bc it favors dorian.
chuck liddel has 15 career wins.
rich clementi (if you watch the ultimate fighter on spike) has 30+ career wins.
is rich the better fighter just bc he has more wins?
look at who chuck has fought vs. rich's oppenets.
same thing with dorian and ronnie.
dorian beat better guys in their prime then ronnie did or could even dream of beating in the same dominating fashion dorian did.
flex at his best lost 20-40 against dorian.
flex no where near his best almost beat ronnie in 98 and 99.
owned again.