Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

  If by "good" you mean that he was able to shed all of his bodyfat an still have the protruding gut of an obese man, then you are correct. Good?! His obliques are huge, he has no taper, his gut can be seen from the front and his abs suck.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Oh don't forget his balance is at its all-time worse and he faced ho-hum competition in 03 !!

[Hulkster]

Unlike Ronnie it wasn't even close thats the difference .

but you are the only fool who does not think that 94 was not a sham.

you are the ONLY one who seems to agree with the politically motivated judges that year.

even yates' back was pushed by shawns that year:

and Yates was crushed in all other aspects.

[pobrecito]

Here is what Camp Coleman just doesn't understand: It's not about individual parts. It's about the physique as a WHOLE.

Watch the 94 Dorian and 03 Ronnie routines on youtube. Dorian's physique is just so far superior becuase of how complete it was as a whole. Ronnie looked like a freak, completely unproportioned, and had a convex gut during his entire routine. And his posing is simply horrific. Even if Dorian did have a gut in 1994, he did a masterful job of hiding it becuase not once in his routine do you notice any distention.

If you don't agree with this fuck off, but that right there is the reason Dorian won 6 Sandows despite having less freaky shoulders than Dillet and Levrone, worse overall quad separation than Shawn Ray, etc. As a whole nobody came even close to Dorian.

[pumpster]

Here is what Camp Coleman just doesn't understand: It's not about individual parts. It's about the physique as a WHOLE.

Absurd; even "camp Yates" admits he had poor aesthetics and you're talking about the physique as a whole, as if aesthetics aren't about the WHOLE..hehehehehehehe

Meshing as a whole..or GRINDING?

[pobrecito]

Absurd; even "camp Yates" admits he had poor aesthetics and you're talking about the physique as a whole, as if aesthetics aren't about the WHOLE..hehehehehehehe

aesthetics have nothing to do with the judging.

Why do you make stupid replies like a 12 year old?

As a whole, nobody could match Dorian.

[Hulkster]

Here is what Camp Coleman just doesn't understand: It's not about individual parts. It's about the physique as a WHOLE.
As a whole nobody came even close to Dorian.

total bullshit:

the whole is what made Ronnie so great, not individual parts:

[pobrecito]

total bullshit:

the whole is what made Ronnie so great, not individual parts:

As a whole, Coleman could never match up with Yates. Just watch the 94 Dorian and 03 Ronnie on YouTube. It's perfectly clear that Dorian is superior.

[pumpster]

As a whole, nobody could match Dorian.

Unproven; he's uniformly mundane, i admit.

[suckmymuscle]

but you are the only fool who does not think that 94 was not a sham.

you are the ONLY one who seems to agree with the politically motivated judges that year.

even yates' back was pushed by shawns that year:

and Yates was crushed in all other aspects.

  Dorian was not very dry in 1994, but he still had his trademark hardness. That's his only flaw. Period. I've seen the 1994 video a dozen times and he won it flat out. 262 lbs with the thickest pecs and back. His back had comparable details to Shawn Ray, with the added bonus of a thickness&width that would be a match for Cutler's at this year's Olympia - but harder, more separated and dryer. His quads were bigger than anyone elses. His abs/serratus only lost to Shawn's...but he carried 55 lbs of muscle more than him! Dorian won the relaxed round flat out on virtue of his monster muscularity and no apparent symmetrical flaws.

  He won all mandatories, except the front double biceps. In fact, if it weren't for his muscle tear, I think he would deserved to win this mandatory as well, on virtue of the fact that his arms were as big as his rivals, but he had better lat width in this pose. Dorian won flat out. Get over it! Shawn Ray wouldn't defeat Dorian on virtue of Dorian's overrall muscularity and his lack of symmetrical flaws from most angles and in most poses. Shawn was dryer and had more separatioins on some areas than Dorian, but that is simply not enough in this case.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

but you are the only fool who does not think that 94 was not a sham.

you are the ONLY one who seems to agree with the politically motivated judges that year.

even yates' back was pushed by shawns that year:

and Yates was crushed in all other aspects.

LMFAO Yates' back was pushed by Shawn , you're fucking-insane , Shawn had great detail and thats IT His back couldn't touch Dorian's EVER and Yates dominated in 1994 period , this is a fact not your fantasy , the judges spoke and Yates was the clear-cut winner even the second place winner didn't dispute that .

you have nothing to work with.

[NarcissisticDeity]

total bullshit:

the whole is what made Ronnie so great, not individual parts:

Where is the balance? where is the proportion? a lot of cool parts very impressive but still lacking.

[Hulkster]

ND you are the only person on this entire 540 page thread that says that Ronnie has no/poor balance and proportion.

get a clue.

he has great balance and proprotion, other than his calves being too small.

but you could say the same thing about Dorian's arms...

[pobrecito]

Ronnie's balance and proportion is superior to his peers, but is INFERIOR to that of Dorian's. You ask why Dorian won every year despite maybe not being the "freakiest"? It was becuase of his superior balance and proportion from top to bottom. Ronnie's quads overpowered his entire physique until 2003, but by then he was in offseason shape compared to 99.

Like I said, watch the 94 Dorian and 03 Ronnie on youtube. The difference in favor of Dorian is staggering. Ronnie just looks like a jumbled mess of bodyparts thrown together with no regard to proportion.

[Hulkster]

Dorian won the relaxed round flat out on virtue of his monster muscularity and no apparent symmetrical flaws.

oh please.

Won the round?

for God's sake the 8th place and 13th place competitors crush him and you say he "won the round"?

 

face it: the judging sucked that year.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie's balance and proportion is superior to his peers, but is INFERIOR to that of Dorian's. You ask why Dorian won every year despite maybe not being the "freakiest"? It was becuase of his superior balance and proportion from top to bottom. Ronnie's quads overpowered his entire physique until 2003, but by then he was in offseason shape compared to 99.

Like I said, watch the 94 Dorian and 03 Ronnie on youtube. The difference in favor of Dorian is staggering. Ronnie just looks like a jumbled mess of bodyparts thrown together with no regard to proportion.

who said anything about Ronnie 2993

Ronnie's 99 form is by far his best.

ps - Ronnie's quads certainly did NOT overpower his phyisque in 99. It was in 2003 when this problem BEGAN not when it ended.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND you are the only person on this entire 540 page thread that says that Ronnie has no/poor balance and proportion.

get a clue.

he has great balance and proprotion, other than his calves being too small.

but you could say the same thing about Dorian's arms...

lol wow everyone agrees with Hulkster and most like you are uneducated  forearms don't match his biceps/triceps , fucking-up his arm balance , his quads are to big for his calves this fucks-up his lower-leg balance , his glutes stickout this hurts his balance , his biceps/triceps in the back double biceps make his delts look small its all about balance throughout the entire physique and Ronnie just doesn't measure up with Yates in this reguard , and why he falls behind in a lot of mandatories .

[pobrecito]

Wrong.

Quads completely overpowering everything, plus 0 calves. Looks like a complete bafoon

[fonz]

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[IceCold]

but you are the only fool who does not think that 94 was not a sham.

you are the ONLY one who seems to agree with the politically motivated judges that year.

even yates' back was pushed by shawns that year:

and Yates was crushed in all other aspects.

nope.

he's not the only one.

the only person who really bitches about 94 is shawn.

you know who else agrees with me and ND and sucky?

THE JUDGES


ps - pumpster - we are still waiting, after 541 pages, as to why a white, english bber, who only comes to the US to compete and has ZERO mainstream appeal would be awarded politcal wins.

[Hulkster]

LOL yates calves are as big as his arms and his arms are overpowered by his upper torso.

yeah, what great balance

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL yates calves are as big as his arms and his arms are overpowered by his upper torso.

yeah, what great balance

At his best he's untouchable ! his arms are huge in 93.

[IceCold]

LOL yates calves are as big as his arms and his arms are overpowered by his upper torso.

yeah, what great balance

i dont know who said dorian had the best balance.

he doesnt.

but coleman's horrific 4 pack throws everything off.

he also has forearms that dont match is upper arms, and the calf issue.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

1994 post tear precontest and HUGE

[pumpster]

1994 post tear precontest and HUGE

Looks good there. However:

-Every good shot's in B & W, where does he look good in color?

-Arms are still too small AND have ZERO definition or seperation.

[whitewidow]

this is the longest thread ive ever seen on a forum