Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[sculpture]

A truly sad moment.

Yates outweighing wheeler by 20 + lbs and still manages to have smaller arms than flex.

Hmmmm,  and yates fans claim he had great balance.

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[pumpster]

Yates outweighing wheeler by 20 + lbs and still manages to have smaller arms than flex.

Good call. We have Yates to thank for ushering in small arms & GH guts.

[NeoSeminole]

A truly sad moment.

Yates outweighing wheeler by 20 + lbs and still manages to have smaller arms than flex.

Hmmmm,  and yates fans claim he had great balance.

this is what I'm talking about. The Dorian nuthuggers keep claiming that Dorian had better balance than Ronnie. However, a massive blocky torso with twig arms sticking out isn't exactly "balanced." I would consider this as much of a liabity as having overpowering quads with small calves.

[IceCold]

A truly sad moment.

Yates outweighing wheeler by 20 + lbs and still manages to have smaller arms than flex.

Hmmmm,  and yates fans claim he had great balance.

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but everything else is bigger and in better condition. 

[BEAST 8692]

A truly sad moment.

Yates outweighing wheeler by 20 + lbs and still manages to have smaller arms than flex.

Hmmmm,  and yates fans claim he had great balance.

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yates has much bigger arms than flex. flex's just look big because everything else on him is so small.

not enough syhthol to go around i spose.

[pobrecito]

Yates easily

[Hulkster]

this is what I'm talking about. The Dorian nuthuggers keep claiming that Dorian had better balance than Ronnie. However, a massive blocky torso with twig arms sticking out isn't exactly "balanced." I would consider this as much of a liabity as having overpowering quads with small calves.

as I said, no one said the dorian fans were smart.

[Hulkster]

the nuthuggers claim yates arms are "huge" yet no matter who he stands beside on stage, they always look small.

they only look "huge" standing ALONE:

[pumpster]

but everything else (other than arms) is bigger and in better condition. 

This is a common rationalization, as if this huge flaw is not important. Nor is the GH gut and H-taper, let's just ignore those too. 

yates has much bigger arms than flex. flex's just look big because everything else on him is so small.

BS; the pics don't lie. As here, with Nasser's arms and legs reducing Yates to a puddle of GH.

[Bear]

Haha I know it's not the most flattering shot, but this back somehow won him the show, and he's being owned by everyone there! hahahahahah!

[pumpster]

That's pic #27 or so showing Yates anywhere from 2nd to 4th place in pics.

Here's another, from the back which is supposed to be his forte:

[pumpster]

He HAD to win the back shots, thanks to this..

[Hulkster]

and yet you watch: rather than try and counter the proof with contrary proof, ND will list a bunch of quotes  and then say

"you have nothing to work with, kid"

 

no, nothing at all...

the man really has no clue at all...

[Hulkster]

according to ND, the pics don't matter the only thing that does is opinions...

never mind the fact that opinions, like judges, can be heavily biased:

 

[Bear]

Ownage much?

[Hulkster]

you have nothing to work with kid

 

[IceCold]

This is a common rationalization, as if this huge flaw is not important. Nor is the GH gut and H-taper, let's just ignore those too. 

BS; the pics don't lie. As here, with Nasser's arms and legs reducing Yates to a puddle of GH.

but if you watched the video, you'd see how things are different.

and not some pic scanned from a magazine that was from 1995.

[IceCold]

and yet you watch: rather than try and counter the proof with contrary proof, ND will list a bunch of quotes  and then say

"you have nothing to work with, kid"

 

no, nothing at all...

the man really has no clue at all...

here's the thing.

you see one thing, i see another. 

i dont see dorian loosing those shots.  especially the back shots or with shawn.

shawn is 5'6 and weighed 200 lbs.  he had absolutely no chance.

the point of the quotes is to support my opinion which differs from yours.

you have no other evidence other than your opinion.  you site pics and vid clips, but its still JUST YOUR OPINION. 

i have quotes from other bbers and results from the judges to support my opinion.

what do you have?

(other than being owned again). 

[NarcissisticDeity]

and yet you watch: rather than try and counter the proof with contrary proof, ND will list a bunch of quotes  and then say

"you have nothing to work with, kid"

 

no, nothing at all...

the man really has no clue at all...

I back up my claims with pictures , quotes from Dorian , the judges and his contemporaries and and one of the most damaging is the I.F.B.B. Mens Professional Bodybuilding Criteria ! something you didn't even know and still can't comprehend , you still think the guy with the widest back and best taper will win a contest when all other things are considered and thats just nonsense

You spout such nonsense and when I say you have nothing to work with , you really have nothing to work with ! famous Hulkster claims Dorian was the most overrated bodybuilder ever , Flex should have beat Yates in 1993 , Ronnie has better detail in his calves than Dorian , Shawn owns Dorian in backs shot , the 1994 Mr Olympia was the most controversial Mr Olympia since 1980 , despite the fact it wasn't even close , Ronnie dominated the 2001 Mr Olympia from the back despite losing the whole prejudging , I could go on and on . when you're reduced to these type of statements you really don't have anything to work with

You keep on insisting Ronnie has better balance than Dorian and I've explained in detail and provided many pictures as to why Ronnie's balance isn't as good as Dorian yet you you continue on , You'll take all the quotes from others when its in praise of Ronnie yet when its in praise of Dorian its just quotes and they don't mean anything  when Dorian said the judges would MAYBE go with Ronnie based on more size you guys were sucking each other off you loved that quote and Dorian was right then but in the same breathe he outright said he had better balance & conditioning than Ronnie ( something I've always maintained ) you blew that off , a common theme among Coleman-zealots is hypocrisy & bias

Another reason I keep saying you have nothing to work with is you keep recycling the same bullshit and if you were confident Ronnie had better balance & conditioning you'd end it and do what you do anyway " ND really is clueless " if I were clueless and if I were so far off base and really didn't have a clue this thread would have never lasted and here we still are with you defending Ronnie , ice skating uphill trying to convince yourself he would beat Dorian and you've failed why? because you lack confidence in your opinion to let it stand on its own merits , thats what separates us I was confident enough in my opinion to call a truce out of respect for fellow members and you're to stupid to even get how the judging works , so keep on trucking sport because I will always correct you when you spout your nonsense

Again its such a shame that Ronnie had a deep respect for Dorian and his fans don't but its not so much about being a fan of Ronnie its being a bigger fan of Dorian bashing I'll end this is post with a quote from Flex magazine October 2003 from Mike Matarazzo about Dorian

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.

[Hulkster]

LOL I was surfing around the web and found a forum where someone referred to Dorian as "Mr. Bloated 1997"

LOL

how appropriate

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL I was surfing around the web and found a forum where someone referred to Dorian as "Mr. Bloated 1997"

LOL

how appropriate

this is the only area where Ronnie beats Dorian and thats bloat lol

[suckmymuscle]

the nuthuggers claim yates arms are "huge" yet no matter who he stands beside on stage, they always look small.

they only look "huge" standing ALONE:

  So you pic Dorian's worst mandatory, the front double biceps. from a year he was depleted, and then have the balls to say that his arms were small when he stood next to his competitors? Well, guess what, he might have smaller arms there, but he still has the wider lats and is harder than everyone else. And regardless, he had the best arms in the contest when stading relaxed as well as in two mandatories - the side triceps adn back double biceps.

  And cut the crap about how Dorian only looks good when he's standing alone. Bullshit. Do you even know how a bodybuilding contest is judged? Well, the only time when a competitor stands alone is when he's doing his posing routine. In all other instances, he's being compared to other bodybuilders! Which goes to show that your theory is bullshit. Why? Because having smaller arms overrall is only apparent when flexing your arms from the front! From most angles when contracting differing muscles, Dorian's arms were better than anyone elses. And even if they weren't, it still wouldn't matter because Dorian had enough lats, quads, pecs, delts to make up for it, with very little symmetrical liabilities. These are great arms, at least from the angles I'm showing them.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

And cut the crap about how Dorian only looks good when he's standing alone. Bullshit. Do you even know how a bodybuilding contest is judged? Well, the only time when a competitor stands alone is when he's doing his posing routine. In all other instances, he's being compared to other bodybuilders! Which goes to show that your theory is bullshit.

its not that he looks bad standing beside other pros.

its that 99.9% of the dorian pics on this thread have him showing close up shots standing alone - and he looks good. great impact.

problem is, anyone looks good like that.

Put dorian onstage with others, and most of that impact goes out the window:

[suckmymuscle]

This is a common rationalization, as if this huge flaw is not important. Nor is the GH gut and H-taper, let's just ignore those too.  

  Dorian's taper is actually better than Ronnie's from most angles. Don't mistake having a worse taper from the front, when standing relaxed, for worst taper overrall. Even when standing relaxed, Dorian's taper kills Ronnie's from the sides, and is comparable from the back - due to Dorian's wider lats.

BS; the pics don't lie. As here, with Nasser's arms and legs reducing Yates to a puddle of GH.

  Again with the front double biceps... Too bad Dorian's lats kills Nasser's and he makes Sonbaty look soft. Now from every other angle, even in the relaxed round, Dorian destroys Nasser. Sonbaty simply had too many symmetrical liabilities and lack of thickness and conditioning to defeat Dorian Yates. But at least he could pull off being over 280 lbs and still have a flat stomach. Ronnie, conversely... And speaking of GH guts, no one and I mean no one can match your hero.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

this shot is so awesome I had to post it again

 

dorian getting owned by EVERYONE at the SAME TIME!!