Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Again who cares if he's wider? if he is , its slightly

ah, so ND admits what the smart people have already known...Ronnie at the same weight was wider..

suck it pubes.

check out the quad detail!

[NarcissisticDeity]

ah, so ND admits what the smart people have already known...Ronnie at the same weight was wider..

suck it pubes.

check out the quad detail!

I never said he was wider , my whole point is who cares? it means zero. they're probably equal but again Dorian simply outclasses Ronnie at his best and worse in the front & rear latspreads. among others.

[Hulkster]

notice how both Jay Cutler and Dorian Yates both have the same loose folds of skin in the back lat spread?

and this guy is supposed to have a better rear lat spread than Ronnie?

Well, now that even ND can conceed that Ronnie was wider, Pubic will have to come up with some other delusion..

man, the longer this thread goes, the more obvious it is that 1999 Ronnie would not only win, but win easily.

[Hulkster]

hahaha 99 Ronnie is just obliterating both Dorian and Jay in the rear lat spreads!

then again, was this any surprise?

I think not.

[NarcissisticDeity]

notice how both Jay Cutler and Dorian Yates both have the same loose folds of skin in the back lat spread?

and this guy is supposed to have a better rear lat spread than Ronnie?

Well, now that even ND can conceed that Ronnie was wider, Pubic will have to come up with some other delusion..

man, the longer this thread goes, the more obvious it is that 1999 Ronnie would not only win, but win easily.

Hulkster you're getting very desperate when you say ' loose folds of skin ' lol you're running out of options kid. 

Again I never said Ronnie was wider I don't know who was unless they were side-by-side and its moot because Dorian is more complete in the front & rear latspreads he has better balance and calves and conditioning and density , etc.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Where is the ' loose skin ' ?

[pumpster]

Again who cares if he's wider? if he is , its slightly and it means ZERO it means absolutely nothing , Ronnie doesn't look as good as Yates in the latspreads anyway !

these are his worse years and he still looks better than Coleman in this pose.

Concession #32. Coleman WIDER AND SMALLER WAIST = DOMINATION.

Yates wins on bacne..

[suckmymuscle]

What the hell do you think Suckmydick and Pubes have been doing?

  And what about you, NeoSperminole? All you do is post pics from 2003 where Ronnie's gut is not visible or where he's sucking it in. Then you post pics of Ronnie from the back and praises them. You see this incredible bodybuilder, whereas I see an un-manly guy with disproportionally large glutes and no calves. As far as the back goes, Dorian is just as wide as Ronnie and with better separations. Adding Dorian's symmetrical advantages, Yates wins. Frm the front, Dorian has better taper in the abs-and-thigh and front lat spread. Besides, Ronnie's distendced gut makes him lose the symmetry round flat out.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahaha 99 Ronnie is just obliterating both Dorian and Jay in the rear lat spreads!

then again, was this any surprise?

I think not.

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

Back Lat Spread (see Figure 5)
Standing with his back to the judges, the competitor will
place his hands on his waist with his elbows kept wide,
one foot back and resting on the toes. He will then
contract the latissimus dorsi as wide as possible and
display a calf contraction by pressing downward on the
rear toes. The competitor should make an effort to
display the opposite calf to that which was displayed
during the back double biceps pose so the the judge may
assess both calf muscle equally. It shall be strictly
forbidden for the competitor to pull up on the posing
trunks so as to show the gluteus maximus muscles.
The judge will look for a good spread of the latissimus
dorsi, but also for good muscle density and will again
conclude with the head-to-foot survey.

Okay please notice how it mentions the word calf three separate times? how can Ronnie beat Dorian in the rearlatspread when he's already down a great set of well developed calves ? now Ronnie's calves are actually small for his quads this damages his lower leg balance , his glutes stick way out and he's not as sharp as Dorian in terms of conditioning , so how can Ronnie beat Dorian in the front and rear latspead ? he can't and this is clear using visual evidence and the actual IFBB judging criteria , you have nothing to work with.


Dorian is unbeatable in this pose.

[suckmymuscle]

exactly.

notice all these shots of dorian's supposedly better rear lat spread are on an angle?

thats because in reality, his rear lat spread was nowhere near as good as Ronnie's:

Explain THIS Pubes:

 

  Completely irrelevant, because the issue here is mathematical. What "looks" wider is not really relevant. Now consider that Dorian's taper is just as good as Ronnie's from the back and yet Dorian's waist is thicker. What does that tell you? That Dorian's lats are wider. Again, if we're going to evalaute their lat width visually, then that's what I see.

  Not as good as Ronnie's? Are you kidding? Dorian's lats are wider and his entire back has a granite-look that Ronnie lacks. Sure, Ronnie has slightly better separations, but Dorian kills him in muscularity and density. Ad to that Dorian's symmetrical advantages in having smaller glutes and bigger calves, and he flat out destroys Ronnie here. No contest! The bottom pic is Dorian at over 270 lbs destrying the 1999 Ronnie both for thickeness as well as back separations.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[RocketSwitch625]

Coleman has much worse "loose folds of skin" on his lower back because the folds are higher up making them more visible. I know Hulkster will turn around and say it's striations not loose folds of skin but any idiot can see what it really is.

Pwned. LOL

[suckmymuscle]

ha ha ha ha, Dorian looking like a bag of smashed assholes compared to Ronnie.

  Compare to this one! Observe that Dorian is a match for Ronnie in lat width, but he lacks Ronnie's large, unmanly glutes and he has calves. All I see in the post you've posted is a man with large but soft lats and severe symmetrical liabilities. From a muscularity&symmetry standpoint, Dorian takes the pose flat out.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Front Lat Spread (see Figure 2)
Standing face front to the judges, with the legs and feet a
short distance apart, the competitor will place the open
hands, or clenched fists, against, or gripping, the lower
waist or obliques and will expand the latissimus muscles.
At the same time, the competitor should attempt to
contract as many other frontal muscles as possible. It
shall be strictly forbidden for the competitor to pull up on
the posing trunks so as to show the top inside of the
quadriceps.
The judge should first see whether the competitor can
show a good spread of the latissimus muscles, thereby
creating a V-shaped torso. Then the judge should
continue with the head-to-foot survey, noting first the
general aspects of the physique and then concentrating on
the more detailed aspects of the various muscle groups.

Dorian again has the edge in balance , density and conditioning and he has two world class calves , Ronnie can' beat Dorian in this pose and to be honest I haven't seen another bodybuilder yet who could.

Dorian is unbeatable in this pose.

[Hulkster]

LOL

Dorian took a page out of Jay's book in the loose skin department (and ND plays dumb again ).

compare to Ronnie's striations - yes, Rocketbitch, they are striations, not rolls of skin/fat:

[NarcissisticDeity]

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


6. Side Triceps (see Figure 6)
The competitor may choose either side for this pose so as
to show the “better” arm. He will stand with his left or
right side towards the judges and will place both arms
behind his back, either linking his fingers or grasping the
front arm by the wrist with his rear hand. The leg nearest
the judges will be bent at the knee and the foot will rest
flat on the floor. The competitor will exert pressure
against his front arm, thereby causing the triceps muscle
to contract. He will also raise the chest and contract the
abdominal muscles as well as the thigh and calf muscles.
The judge will first survey the triceps muscles, and
conclude with the head-to-foot examination. In this pose,
the judge will be able to survey the thigh and calf muscles
in profile, which will help in grading their comparative
development more accurately.

Notice again they ask for the calves twice Ronnie is already behind in this pose , factor in Dorian's better triceps , better balance and conditioning and Ronnie would fall by the wayside in this pose as well.

Dorian is unbeatable in this pose.

[RocketSwitch625]

LOL

Dorian took a page out of Jay's book in the loose skin department (and ND plays dumb again ).

compare to Ronnie's striations - yes, Rocketbitch, they are striations, not rolls of skin/fat:

Then how come Coleman's Christmas tree is nowhere near as visible as Yates'? Explain that.

[Hulkster]

notice whenever the dorian side is faced with direct comparative proof of Ronnie's dominance, they immediately inundate the thread with paragraphs of judging criteria as if they mean more than the comparison pics?

doesn't get any more desperate than that folks..

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

Dorian took a page out of Jay's book in the loose skin department (and ND plays dumb again ).

compare to Ronnie's striations - yes, Rocketbitch, they are striations, not rolls of skin/fat:

Ronnie is clearly holding water in that shot , you're just to uneducated to comprehend this and where is the loose skin? you're getting desperate just like when you claimed Ronnie had better detail in his calves than Dorian lol you're running out of imaginary flaws .

where is the lose skin? 1993 Mr Olympia , same contest.

[NarcissisticDeity]

notice whenever the dorian side is faced with direct comparative proof of Ronnie's dominance, they immediately inundate the thread with paragraphs of judging criteria as if they mean more than the comparison pics?

doesn't get any more desperate than that folks..

Desperate is claiming Ronnie has better detail in his calves than Dorian lol thats as desperate as it gets  I posted visual proof and a through explanation using the criteria the judges are looking for , you post bad pics of Yates and ignore facts , why? because you have nothing to work with , Dorian meets the Official I.F.B.B. Pro Mens Judging criteria better than Ronnie , this is why he would own Ronnie for a tenth time.

[Hulkster]

ND, see the folds of skin just above the object of your affections?

that is called loose skin:

 

[suckmymuscle]

It's just those silly pics that keep coming up with Coleman dominating..

  This picture is a classic from the Coleman side, and has been ineffectively used to demonstrate a dominance that simply doesen't exist within a complete bodybuilding criteria. So, to tore apart this comparison once and for all, let's analyse it deeply.

  Look at this picture, and the first impression you have is that Ronnie is much larger. Now observe it closely, and the bottom line is that Ronnie appears to be much larger than he really is for three reasons:

 - His unmanly glutes - Glutes, together with the abs, is the sole bodypart that a male bodybuilder should not hypertrophy. Large glutes are unmanly. they are, however, a large muscle group and contribute with a lot of size. Ronnie hypertrophied his glutes, and thus enjoys ands unfair advantage in size over him. Instead of being praised for it, Ronnie should be penalized for having glutes that would look better in a woman.

 - His immense quads - Ronnie's quads are so huge that they can be seen in all back poses. This adds an illusion of Ronnie being much larger than he really is. While his quads are massively muscular and he should be praised for it, the fact that they can be seen from the back makes his calves an even bigger symmetrical liability.

 - His hams - Huge. Unfortunately, they add to impression of Ronnie being much bigger overrall, which is not true when it comes to the back. The bottom line is that Dorian was a match for Ronnie 2003 in back width, although perhaps not in thickness. Regardless, Dorian actually wins both the back double biceps and rear lat spread, on virtue that his back holds it's own against Ronnie, and Dorian lacks Ronnie's severe symmetrical liabilities. Case closed. Don't ever psot this comparison again, otherwise you'll ust embarass yourselves.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

dorian had history's best lower back so far...

but as ND loves to say, its the mandatories that count.

and, as pic after pic shows, Dorian displayed Jay Cutler Syndrome of loose folds of skin when it came time to hit the back lat spread.

another in a mountain of advantages for the unbeatable 1999 Ronnie Coleman.

[NarcissisticDeity]

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


Abdominals and Thighs (see Figure 7)
Standing face front to the judges, the competitor will
place both arms behind the head and will place one leg
forward. He will then contract the abdominal muscles by
55
“crunching” the trunk slightly forward. At the same time,
he will contract the thigh muscles of the forward leg.
The judge will survey the abdominal and thigh muscles,
and then conclude with the head-to-foot examination.

Once again , Ronnie is down two calves , balance , and an entire midsection that is comprable to Dorian , and condition , factor in Ronnie's noticable distension and Dorian edge in conditioning and again

Dorian is unbeatable in this pose.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, see the folds of skin just above the object of your affections?

that is called loose skin:

 

I suppose those are loose folds of skin on his triceps too?    you're getting very desperate now.

[NarcissisticDeity]

dorian had history's best lower back so far...

but as ND loves to say, its the mandatories that count.

and, as pic after pic shows, Dorian displayed Jay Cutler Syndrome of loose folds of skin when it came time to hit the back lat spread.

another in a mountain of advantages for the unbeatable 1999 Ronnie Coleman.

Yes and the judges constantly ask for two calves , muscular balance , conditioning , factor in bitch tits and a GH Gut and Ronnie is down already .