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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15000 on: November 27, 2006, 05:51:59 PM »
more 2001 AC vs 99 Olympia:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15001 on: November 27, 2006, 05:52:07 PM »
true, this pic is insane:


dorian wishes he could have looked this good.

it really is a toss up as to which condition overall is better.

but one thing can be said for sure:

Ronnie 2001 certainly had more of a gut:
at least when relaxed 8)





Look at his absence of any detail what so ever in his midsection !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15002 on: November 27, 2006, 05:52:55 PM »
more 2001 AC vs 99 Olympia:



Noticeable gut in both shots !! to bad about the calves !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15003 on: November 27, 2006, 05:53:56 PM »
more 01 AC vs 99 O.:


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15004 on: November 27, 2006, 05:55:04 PM »
I still can't believe ND is stupid enough to go on about Ronnie's gut given that he is permanently embedded in dorian's asshole...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15005 on: November 27, 2006, 05:56:28 PM »
more 2001 AC vs 99 Olympia:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15006 on: November 27, 2006, 05:57:37 PM »
even though the lighting is far better at the 99 O., Ronnie does appear to have superior arm, chest and delt detail at the 99 O. when compared to the 2001 AC.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15007 on: November 27, 2006, 05:58:10 PM »
I still can't believe ND is stupid enough to go on about Ronnie's gut given that he is permanently embedded in dorian's asshole...

Is that the best you can manage? his GUT is a joke a bodybuilder at 244 pounds isn't supposed to have a fucking gut kid , get serious ! Dorian at 242 pounds and Ronnie at 244 pounds gut NOT gut !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15008 on: November 27, 2006, 05:59:18 PM »
LOL ND posts a shot from the dawn of dorian's career....


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15009 on: November 27, 2006, 06:00:27 PM »
I just can't believe How the fuck Ronnie could have such a gigantic gut vs Dorian with just 2 extra pounds thats insane !!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15010 on: November 27, 2006, 06:02:29 PM »
LOL ND posts a shot from the dawn of dorian's career....


 ::)

But what does that have to do with anything? They're basically the same weight and Ronnie looks pregnant thats a shame !! seriously.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15011 on: November 27, 2006, 06:04:50 PM »
But what does that have to do with anything? They're basically the same weight and Ronnie looks pregnant thats a shame !! seriously.

the point is that both Ronnie AND dorian had huge guts when relaxed at their respective bests.

so you can single out ronnie and criticize the gut while pretending that dorian did not have the same problem.

watch the prejuding 93 clip again. when dorian does the rear double bi, his gut is massive.

and it only got worse from there:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15012 on: November 27, 2006, 06:06:49 PM »
the point is that both Ronnie AND dorian had huge guts when relaxed at their respective bests.

so you can single out ronnie and criticize the gut while pretending that dorian did not have the same problem.

watch the prejuding 93 clip again. when dorian does the rear double bi, his gut is massive.

and it only got worse from there:



The difference though, while they both had protruding guts when relaxed, is that Ronnie's gut was also present during the mandatories, unlike Dorian.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15013 on: November 27, 2006, 06:07:09 PM »
the point is that both Ronnie AND dorian had huge guts when relaxed at their respective bests.

so you can single out ronnie and criticize the gut while pretending that dorian did not have the same problem.

watch the prejuding 93 clip again. when dorian does the rear double bi, his gut is massive.

and it only got worse from there:



Nice try !! not the same Ronnie always had a bigger and more noticeable gut ! look at the pics of them at almost the identical weight Ronnie looks pregnant and Yates has NO destension what so ever , you keep posting that same pic and it shows thick obliques I'm talking about abdominal distension.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15014 on: November 27, 2006, 06:09:35 PM »
1999 your hero at what you think is among his best ever.  :-\

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15015 on: November 27, 2006, 06:25:19 PM »
to have fun in this thread, you have to play down to your competition ;)

And that Pubes is a really fun guy!  hahahaahahahahahahahaaha hah

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15016 on: November 27, 2006, 06:28:48 PM »
Like I said, as seen, you really do you have to play down to your competition ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15017 on: November 27, 2006, 06:29:22 PM »
1999 your hero at what you think is among his best ever.  :-\

can you believe this guy?

Here is dorian in 1993 ND:

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

here is your hero, genius:
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15018 on: November 27, 2006, 06:34:11 PM »
ND in total denial.

they both had huge guts even at their bests:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15019 on: November 27, 2006, 07:27:14 PM »
don't forget about this pic. Dorian's gut is sticking out past his chest.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15020 on: November 27, 2006, 07:29:28 PM »
You call this infinitely flatter although they look about the same.
 
 Wll, we'll have to agree to disagree. I think that most people can see that Dorian's gut was never even close to that of Ronnie's in 2003. Hell, even in 1997 Dorian's gut still couldn't compare with Ronnie's, let alone at his best. You ahve just demonstrated that what "looking" is far from an accurate way to evaluate something. This is especuially true considering the obvious fat that Ronnie's gut dwarfed Dorian's...and yet you still can't see it! ::)
 
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why don't you ask him?

  Because I don't care. Since it's you who brough that up in the first place, then it relies on you to verify if your own assertion is factual.

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???

  You made a big fucking deal out of the fact that 21" equals 52.5 centimeters and not 52. Well, putting aside the fact that this is picking at straws because the difference is infinitesimal, I made the point that I said that I said that Dorian's arms are either 52 or 53 centimeters. So, they could actually be slightly bigger than 21".

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23 - 20.5 = 2.5 which is greater than 2.

  Again, the quote I saw was that Dorian's arms were either 52 or 53 centimeters, so I just rounded it to 21". You see, unlike you, I'm not preoccupied with precision since it is irrelvantg in this case. It's not like we're calculating the trajectory of a space probe, in which case taking into account measures to decimal houses is required. This is bodybuilding, for f**k sake! No shit that 2.5" is more than 2". The issue is two: first, Dorian's arms could actually be slightly bigger than 21", and secondly, halsf an inch is insignificant of a difference since both their arms were over 20". I'm not even bringing up the fact that Ronnie's overrall arm size advantage is only visible from the front while contracting the biceps.

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If I said that Ronnie and Dorian were the same width based on 1 pic, then you would have an argument. I arrived at my conclusion after looking at several pics and using my knowledge of anatomy. What a coincidence they happen to be the same width in all of the comparisons. There's even a video of them standing onstage together in identical lighting, and they still look the same width.

  But the issue here is not number of pics. Did you do a mental arithmatic average of how wide their lats "appear" to you and then came up with a visual average of their respective lat widths? Then you compared them in your mind and came to the conclusion that they were the same? The issue here is that a mental estimate of lat width based on many pics can be just as wrong as that made by looking at a single one. My estimate, at least, tries to be factual and logical instead of simply a guesstimate. Nice try, kid, you've failed again miserably. ;)

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excuses excuses. Go ahead and search my posts for mistakes. You may be lucky to find 1 or 2. Again, I wasn't criticizing you for a spelling mistake. My point is that you claim to be a genius and you brag about how people always compliment how smart you are

  I never claimed to be a genius; I claimed that I got high scores on I.Q tests. Only someone possesed a sophomoric understanding of intelligence would regard a score at a test as such. Genius has a lot more to do with devergent thinking than with convergent one. For instance, Francis Crick, one of the discoveres of the DNA structure, had an I.Q of only about 115. Yet, he was undoubtedly a genius, because he proved his intelligence by being creative in the real word. As another example, Richard Feynman, physics Nobelist, scored an I.Q of only 125. While this is clearly above average, it is much less than you would expect from the second most brilliant theoretical physicist of the Twentieth Century. I.Q tests measures one's ability to solve a very large number of relatively simple logical problems in a short span of time. They do not measure profound thought, or creativity.

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yet you don't know the difference between "waist" and "waste."

  Ok. ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15021 on: November 27, 2006, 07:39:06 PM »
you're not fooling anyone. ;)



  Oh, so now you put the markings of a ruler at the pictures of them and claim that they had the same lat width. This is absolutely worthless to measure their lat widths for a very simple reason: pics as well as visual evaluations, can be respectively manipulated and deceiving. Ronnie's waist was smaller than Dorian's from the back, and this makes his lats appear wider than they really are. His muscles are also rounder. So, looking at them is far from an accurate way of evaluating their respective widths. Now, if you had put that ruler on their lats, and it showed the exact same distance from the two outernmost extrmeities, then you'd be correct. Pictures, however, can be manipulated in several ways:

 - They can be compressed.

 - The bodybuilders can be at slightly different angles facing the camera, which outers the measure.

 - The bodybuilder can be either closer or further from the camera, and this also alters how big they appear in the pictures.

  As an example, a huge mountain appears to be small from a large distance. If either Dorian or Ronnie are not aligned exactly in the same plane and distance from the camera when the pictures were taken, one could appear to be smaller than the other. Also, the ruler has to be positioned at exacty the outernmost point of their respective lats for the estimate to be reliable. Try again. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15022 on: November 27, 2006, 07:45:58 PM »
if you have eyes it is clear that ronnie is better, legs save calves suck. his arms suck, his chest looks like shit in mm. and his delts arent all that round nor striated. ronnie is bigger, rounder, just as conditioned, better individual parts, and more vascular and detailed over-all. i just dont see how dorian would win. he was great for his time, but ronnie stepped it up a notch.

this comment should end the discussion. lock the thread. ;D

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15023 on: November 27, 2006, 07:51:35 PM »
if you have eyes it is clear that ronnie is better, legs save calves suck. his arms suck, his chest looks like shit in mm. and his delts arent all that round nor striated. ronnie is bigger, rounder, just as conditioned, better individual parts, and more vascular and detailed over-all. i just dont see how dorian would win. he was great for his time, but ronnie stepped it up a notch.

this comment should end the discussion. lock the thread. ;D

very well said.

but of course ND will denying everything... ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #15024 on: November 27, 2006, 08:02:02 PM »
in the words of usmokepole, Sucky is "a high functioning down syndrome patient." :D