Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

in other words, Dorian has a better rear lat spread if you ignore the back...

seriously why do you type these things? I mean head to toe this is a textbook rear latspread from top to bottom , seriously.

[pobrecito]

in other words, Dorian has a better rear lat spread if you ignore the back...

hahaha...are you BLIND? Dorian's back is drier and more separated than Ronnie's ever was. Ronnie was water logged compared to Dorian at his best.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie was water logged compared to Dorian at his best.

yes, look how watery he was....

[pobrecito]

Compared to Dorian, yes he was watery. Of course, everyone was, so that really doesn't need to be discussed anymore.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I don't know why you keep posting this pic he looks terrible , his calves are toothpicks his quads dominate them , his midsection is soft and bloated his forearms look like twigs verse his great biceps/triceps overall its a very bad shot.

[Hulkster]

I don't know why you keep posting this pic he looks terrible , his calves are toothpicks his quads dominate them , his midsection is soft and bloated his forearms look like twigs verse his great biceps/triceps overall its a very bad shot.

its a lot better than this:

[pumpster]

hahaha...are you BLIND? Dorian's back is drier and more separated than Ronnie's ever was. Ronnie was water logged compared to Dorian at his best.

Ya, we can see that advantage right here.. Water-logged, sure buddy.

Yates was never this shredded:

[Hulkster]

In all seriousness, he looks really good in this shot:

his flexed arm looks incredible.

his flexed pec is ripped.

his shoulder to waist differental is insane

 and his quads are cut, huge and shapely.

[pobrecito]

Again, Ronnie's back looking very puffy and watery. It may have looked the best against the inferior competiton he faced, but Yates' back was superior in every aspect.

[suckmymuscle]

mmmmkay, I'll ask you again. Where did I contradict myself? Quote my text so I know what you are talking about.

  You contradict yourself because you first said that Ronnie was as wide as Dorian, and then you changed that and said that they look as wide. These are not the same thing. The bottom line is that you were unable to prove your assertion, so you changed that to an opinion. Sorry, but an opinion is not a statement of fact. I couldn't care less what you think on this issue; either Ronnie is as wide as Dorian or he is not. My assertion is that odds are that Dorian is wider. I can't prove it, but I have reasonable evidence. You, conversely, flat out said that Ronnie was as wide as Dorian, and gave absofuckinglutely not proof besides irrelvant visual evidence, which doesen't prove shit.

your critique of the side-by-side comparisons would hold weight if there was discrepancy between them. Unfortunately for you, Dorian and Ronnie are the same exact width in all of them.

  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...just because you say so? Again, I don't care what you think about the issue based on visual evidence, since the issue is not visual: you either prove that Ronnie was as wide or you don't. So far, you have failed.

Before you cry "bias," need I remind you that Pubes made, not 1, but 2 comparisons that prove what I have been saying all along? If that's not enough for you, there is also a video from 96 that shows Ronnie and Dorian were the same width - onstage together, same contest, same angle, etc. Pause the video at the 45 sec mark.

  Irrelevant.

asymmetrical delts, poor brachialis and forearms? You don't even know what the brachialis muscle is, and you're calling me a bodybuilding newbie? ha ha ha ha

  I sure know what the brachialis muslce is, dumbshit, and I stand by what I said: Ronnie's biceps and triceps dwarfed his brachialis and forearms. The arrogance you have in saying that I don't what it is, since I'm way smarter than you.

Dorian's arms didn't even come close to Ronnie's, let alone were better than them. Ask any knowledgable bodybuilding fan to come up with a list of the top 20 arms of all-time. I guarantee you that Dorian wouldn't make the list. However, Ronnie's arms would probably make the top 3.

  "Arms" do not exist as a bodybuilding category. Get that, "dipshit"? The arms are a complex bodypart which showcases different parts from different angles and positions of contraction. Ronnie's arms were sure bigger overrall than Dorian's in his 2003 form, but Dorian still held his own very well in many ways. Dillet had 23" arms before Ronnie, and he never did that well in poses that showcase the arms beside the front double biceps, and he certainly didn't do very well in as a pro.

ha ha ha, monster jealousy.

  

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

In all seriousness, he looks really good in this shot:

his flexed arm looks incredible.

his flexed pec is ripped.

his shoulder to waist differental is insane

 and his quads are cut, huge and shapely.

I disagree the back shot and most muscular he looks great not this shot.

[pumpster]

Again, Ronnie's back looking very puffy and watery.

Out-muscling, out-conditioning, out-detailing Yates' back..so much for "watery & puffy":

[Hulkster]

Look how watery Dorian is making Ronnie look!

 

[pobrecito]

Dorian's back superior in every way. Pumpster you make yourself look like a moron claiming Yates is outmuscled. A 93 Yates carried MORE muscle than a 99 Coleman. Just stop now, ok? You are too easy to prove wrong.

[suckmymuscle]

  Pumpster is annoying!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Out-muscling, out-conditioning, out-detailing Yates' back..so much for "watery & puffy":

How is he out-muscling him if they're the same weight? and out-conditioning is laughable , same as the detail.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look how watery Dorian is making Ronnie look!

 

Exactly look especially at the midsection which on Ronnie is watery and bloated.

[pobrecito]

How is he out-muscling him if they're the same weight? and out-conditioning is laughable , same as the detail.

Exactly correct ND. Pumpster is nothing more than shit-stirrer with baseless claims attempting to induce some kind of "internet meltdown"

Unfortunately for him and camp coleman, the empirical evidence all leans towards Yates' edge, yet they repeatedly deny this posting some lame most-muscular screencap.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly correct ND. Pumpster is nothing more than shit-stirrer with baseless claims attempting to induce some kind of "internet meltdown"

Unfortunately for him and camp coleman, the empirical evidence all leans towards Yates' edge, yet they repeatedly deny this posting some lame most-muscular screencap.

You know pumpster is pathetic , Hulkster at least formulates an opinion even though its based on bias and preference at least he tries to articulate his point of view , pumpster is just a troll and nothing more , he posts the same pictures over and over and over I entertain his nonsense when I feel like owning him but most of the time I laugh him off.

[NeoSeminole]

You contradict yourself because you first said that Ronnie was as wide as Dorian, and then you changed that and said that they look as wide. These are not the same thing. The bottom line is that you were unable to prove your assertion, so you changed that to an opinion. Sorry, but an opinion is not a statement of fact. I couldn't care less what you think on this issue; either Ronnie is as wide as Dorian or he is not. My assertion is that odds are that Dorian is wider. I can't prove it, but I have reasonable evidence. You, conversely, flat out said that Ronnie was as wide as Dorian, and gave absofuckinglutely not proof besides irrelvant visual evidence, which doesen't prove shit.

again, where did I contradict myself? I don't see how saying that Ronnie and Dorian were the same width, and saying they look equally as wide is a contradiction.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...just because you say so? Again, I don't care what you think about the issue based on visual evidence, since the issue is not visual: you either prove that Ronnie was as wide or you don't. So far, you have failed.

the issue here is entirely visual you dumbass. For you to claim it's not is a pathetic attempt to make your lame guessing argument look stronger despite a lack of evidence on your behalf. Since nobody measured both their lat widths, all we have is pics and videos to compare. I find it amusing you try to dismiss photo comparisons made by Pubes and me. What a coincidence that 2 people working independently both arrived at the same results, not once, but multiple times. Furthermore, there is direct video evidence that shows Ronnie and Dorian were the same width.

Irrelevant.

of course you would call a video of Ronnie and Dorian onstage together under the same circumstances irrelevant when it doesn't agree with you.

face it, you are wrong kid.

I sure know what the brachialis muslce is, dumbshit, and I stand by what I said: Ronnie's biceps and triceps dwarfed his brachialis and forearms. The arrogance you have in saying that I don't what it is, since I'm way smarter than you.

I still don't think you know what the brachialis muscle is, otherwise you wouldn't say Ronnie's were poor. If anything, they might have been too big for his biceps. I dare you to circle his brachialis on the pic I posted of Ronnie hitting a most muscular. Prove to me you know which muscle it is.

Ronnie's arms were sure bigger overrall than Dorian's in his 2003 form, but Dorian still held his own very well in many ways. Dillet had 23" arms before Ronnie, and he never did that well in poses that showcase the arms beside the front double biceps, and he certainly didn't do very well in as a pro.

You are out of your f*cking mind if you think Dorian's arms held their own against 03 Ronnie's. It's not even close.

[pumpster]

Dorian's back superior in every way. Pumpster you make yourself look like a moron claiming Yates is outmuscled.

Coleman was wider with a far better taper. 45 second mark of the 96 show with them both there shows it as well. To those who haven't yet figured it: pause & measure the screen.

[pumpster]

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I sure know what the brachialis muslce is, dumbshit, and I stand by what I said: Ronnie's biceps and triceps dwarfed his brachialis and forearms. The arrogance you have in saying that I don't what it is, since I'm way smarter than you.

I still don't think you know what the brachialis muscle is, otherwise you wouldn't say Ronnie's were poor. If anything, they might have been too big for his biceps. I dare you to circle his brachialis on the pic I posted of Ronnie hitting a most muscular. Prove to me you know which muscle it is.

From the comments it's clear that SUCKY's brachialis is extremely well developed between the ears.

Ronnie's biceps and triceps dwarfed his brachialis.

A SUCKY classic hahahahaahahahahaahahaha hahahahahahahahahahaha

[pumpster]

I might agree that Dorian has Ronnie beat as far as conditioning goes, at least in some ways, which speaks volumes about Yates because Ronnie is one of the most shredded bodybuilders ever.  I also think that Dorian has superior calves (obviously) and more pleasing lats in some poses.  However, I don't think he has much else on Ronnie - not much at all that the majority of judges would agree with anyway.  Ronnie beats him on shape for the most part (smaller waist), and both have equally horrid guts, although Dorian's sits on a wider waist.  I would say Dorian is the better poser, but Ronnie has so much more muscle than Dorian that I think it would be difficult, if not impossible, for a fair judging panel to give it to Dorian.  I think Ronnie's 1999 and 2003 forms would be the hardest to beat, and I could not see them going to Dorian.  Everyone talks about Ronnie at the 2001 ASC (Peter McGough started this I believe), but in my opinion, that was not his best.  Great showing though.

Matt & Pumpster on the same page, ND & pubes clueless. LOL

[pumpster]

As someone else mentioned, this will henceforth be referred to as the ugly "Yates turtle shot". hahaahahahahahhah

Note the relatively tiny tris overwhelmed by the back.

[Kyle Cavnar]

OMMMFFFGGG ARE YA'LL GOING TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT THIS POST?!! JESUS FUCKING CHRIST...WHAT IS THIS NOW 650 PAGES??? GOOD LORD