Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

Sure you can't just like I can't see his mediocre balance & proportion 

Nd you are a total moron.


this midsection is completely flat.

I'm not sure if ND knows what the meaning of the terms "convex" and "concave" are

[Hulkster]

Yes, I reckon those glutes detract sorely from Ronnie's physique.

Hulkster, what is your opinion on Ronnie's left lat and tricep in the context of the torn Dorian bicep?

this was only apparent in the last 2 years of Ronnie's career.

Dorian tore his bi early on in his career and coasted by the rest of the way thanks in part to judges that looked the other way - he got perfect whether he was 324 pounds and fat or in great shape - the judges didn't even look half the time. Thus, even though he was dominated by nasser from the front, or ray in 94 in many shots or whatever, he was given perfect. the judges didn't care one bit. Following orders from Uncle Joe I guess..

He never looked the same after 93.

[logical?]

Dorian tore his bi early on in his career and coasted by the rest of the way thanks in part to judges that looked the other way - he got perfect whether he was 324 pounds and fat or in great shape - the judges didn't even look half the time. Thus, even though he was dominated by nasser from the front, or ray in 94 in many shots or whatever, he was given perfect. the judges didn't care one bit. Following orders from Uncle Joe I guess..

Why was this?

[IceCold]

this was only apparent in the last 2 years of Ronnie's career.

Dorian tore his bi early on in his career and coasted by the rest of the way thanks in part to judges that looked the other way - he got perfect whether he was 324 pounds and fat or in great shape - the judges didn't even look half the time. Thus, even though he was dominated by nasser from the front, or ray in 94 in many shots or whatever, he was given perfect. the judges didn't care one bit. Following orders from Uncle Joe I guess..

He never looked the same after 93.

did these same judges follow uncle joe's rules fro 2001?

i mean its not like dorian was ever behind like ronnie was in 2001 and mysteriously won the posing rounds when his posing reminds people of paul dillet.

dominated from the front?

by 5'6 205 lb. shawn - not even close.

nasser looked better in the arms and quads than dorian.  but dorian's torso is much thicker.

besides, what about the back and side poses?

[pobrecito]

Flex magazine on Dorian at the 1996 Mr. Olympia:

A fifth straight Olympia crown should bury once and for all any misconception that the title reflects only mass. Quality, detail and symmetry distanced Mr. Olympia from the rest of the pack in Chicago. Now, he pulls back the curtain on the training wrinkles that allowed him to add another Sandow to his mantle.

[IceCold]

Flex magazine on Dorian at the 1996 Mr. Olympia:

A fifth straight Olympia crown should bury once and for all any misconception that the title reflects only mass. Quality, detail and symmetry distanced Mr. Olympia from the rest of the pack in Chicago. Now, he pulls back the curtain on the training wrinkles that allowed him to add another Sandow to his mantle.

nothing new for us.

but hulkster will claim "flawed judging" eventhough 2001 is ok with him.

pumpster will post a black and white pic of dorian from 94 standing relaxed and then claim yates won for political reason but refuses to provide examples or proof. 

1 word, 2 syallables:

BOWFLEX

[Iceman1981]

very true.

How did dorian recieve perfect scores with a front double bi that looked mismatched?

because the judges didn't give a flying f**k about being impartial. They would have given him perfect if he showed up missing one arm and one leg.



lol, this statement is funny. I also think that Yates should have never won any tittle after he torn his bicep.

ND, would you consider a man with a severely torn bicep to have the best body in the world? And

Has any previous Mr. Olympia ever had such a severe torn muscle and still win? I think not. If there was, I would like to see a picture of it.

[Iceman1981]

Flex magazine on Dorian at the 1996 Mr. Olympia:

A fifth straight Olympia crown should bury once and for all any misconception that the title reflects only mass. Quality, detail and symmetry distanced Mr. Olympia from the rest of the pack in Chicago. Now, he pulls back the curtain on the training wrinkles that allowed him to add another Sandow to his mantle.

"symmetry"? with such a severely torn bicep?
Symmetry: the proper or due proportion of the parts of a body or whole to one another with regard to size and form; excellence of proportion.

I don't think so.

[NeoSeminole]

Peter McGough in Flex, Dec. 2006:

"At 260 pounds, [Dennis James] was hard but genetically lacks the deep separation that catches the judges' eyes in comparisons."

I thought the judges don't care about separation b/c it's not part of the criteria.

[IceCold]

"symmetry"? with such a severely torn bicep?
Symmetry: the proper or due proportion of the parts of a body or whole to one another with regard to size and form; excellence of proportion.

I don't think so.

its not an arms contest.

its not a fucking dictionary defintion of the word symmetry.

its who has the best combo of mass and conditioning with good balance and good symmetry with a bodypart (s) or attribute that no one else has or is better than anyone else's. 

for dorian it was his back, hardness, conditioning,  and density.

for ronnie it was his back, arms, and mass with shape (ronnie's conditioning was great, but i think the other areas were more strength's for ronnie.  when he wasnt in great shape, he could still rely on those attributes (until this year).

thats why dorian won.

thats why ronnie won.

[Iceman1981]

its not an arms contest.

its not a fucking dictionary defintion of the word symmetry.

its who has the best combo of mass and conditioning with good balance and good symmetry with a bodypart (s) or attribute that no one else has or is better than anyone else's. 

for dorian it was his back, hardness, conditioning,  and density.

for ronnie it was his back, arms, and mass with shape (ronnie's conditioning was great, but i think the other areas were more strength's for ronnie.  when he wasnt in great shape, he could still rely on those attributes (until this year).

thats why dorian won.

thats why ronnie won.

yes, you're right it's called "body" building. Which requires the "whole" body. Not the "whole" body without a left bicep.

you say "good balance". A guy with a severely torn bicep does not have "good balance".

Answer this: would you consider a man with a severely torn bicep to have the best body in the world? And

Has any previous defending Mr. Olympia ever had such a severe torn muscle and still win? I think not. If there was, I would like to see a picture of it.

Any top bodybuilder, especially a defending Mr. Olympia that has a severely torn muscle should not win the competition. Plain and simple. You ever see Sergio, Arnold, Coleman, Haney, etc win with a major torn muscle? It's simple you have to have the best "body". Since Yates won with a torn bicep that shows you how corrupted the IFBB is. Stating that, Coleman shouldn't have won with a huge gut in 2001.

[Saxon]

yes, you're right it's called "body" building. Which requires the "whole" body. Not the "whole" body without a left bicep.

you say "good balance". A guy with a severely torn bicep does not have "good balance".

Answer this: would you consider a man with a severely torn bicep to have the best body in the world? And

Has any previous defending Mr. Olympia ever had such a severe torn muscle and still win? I think not. If there was, I would like to see a picture of it.

Any top bodybuilder, especially a defending Mr. Olympia that has a severely torn muscle should not win the competition. Plain and simple. You ever see Sergio, Arnold, Coleman, Haney, etc win with a major torn muscle? It's simple you have to have the best "body". Since Yates won with a torn bicep that shows you how corrupted the IFBB is. Stating that, Coleman shouldn't have won with a huge gut in 2001.

Answer this: would you consider a man with gyno to have the best body in the world???

[Hulkster]

did these same judges follow uncle joe's rules fro 2001?

Ronnie almost lost in 2001. He was not given a  perfect score.

Yates could show up looking like a fat out of shape gorilla and he would still be given perfect...

thats the crucial difference that you guys are too dense to comprehend...

The judges were accurate during Ronnie's reign. In the close contests where Ronnie showed up in off shape, he was marked down for it.

When dorian showed up in off shape, the judges didn't care.

And no, its not because dorian was so dominant.

Its because the judges didn't care what shape he was in.

That much is obvious. You don't recieve a perfect score against Nasser when you have an inferior ab and thigh, side chest and front double bi.

Thats THREE mandatories that you lose and you get a perfect score?

come on

[Hulkster]

Answer this: would you consider a man with gyno to have the best body in the world???

if his chest look this amazing, why not?:

[Iceman1981]

Answer this: would you consider a man with gyno to have the best body in the world???

As I've stated before. Ronnie shouldn't win when he is not in shape, GH gut. Now answer my question I posted above.

Also even if though he had some gyno, atleast he didn't have any major torn muscles. If I had to pick. I would have a little gyno over a major torn muscle anyday.

[Iceman1981]

I'm still waiting for someone to answer this:

would you consider a man with a severely torn bicep to have the best body in the world? And

Has any previous defending Mr. Olympia ever had such a severe torn muscle and still win? I think not. If there was, I would like to see a picture of it.

Any top bodybuilder, especially a defending Mr. Olympia that has a severely torn muscle should not win the competition. Plain and simple. You ever see Sergio, Arnold, Coleman, Haney, etc win with a major torn muscle?

[Hulkster]

according to ND, Pubic and Co. "arms hardly mean anything in bodybuilding"

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm still waiting for someone to answer this:

would you consider a man with a severely torn bicep to have the best body in the world? And

Has any previous defending Mr. Olympia ever had such a severe torn muscle and still win? I think not. If there was, I would like to see a picture of it.

Any top bodybuilder, especially a defending Mr. Olympia that has a severely torn muscle should not win the competition. Plain and simple. You ever see Sergio, Arnold, Coleman, Haney, etc win with a major torn muscle?

Would you consider a man with TWO underdevloped , unbalanced and poor shaped calves the greatest body in the world? now add in bitch tits and a GH Gut and you have Ronnie 98/99 and this is supposed to be the best he's ever looked !!

Quote Jim Rockell one of the chair of the I.F.B.B. Judging committe on Dorian at the 1994 Mr Olympia

Audience members heartily disapproved of Levrone's third place finish in the Mr Olympia contest.

Said Manion : My score sheet was identical to the final results. Dorian (Yates' ) size and rear blew everyone else away. Shawn ( Ray ) was in great shape but couldn't top Dorian this time. The same is true with Kevin , Paul Dillett seemed to be holding water. If Kevin and Paul came in top shape , they would have been right up there.

Added Rockell: Dorian had a SLIGHT injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. He was just so dense it made no overall difference. Paul's major deficiencies were in his back : not enough muscularity for his large frame. also basic stamina throughout was in question ; during call-outs , he was breathing heavy and bending over.

Kevin has it all but was a little soft in prejudging , which hurt him. He wasn't quite as sharp as Shawn , but it was very close between second and third. It came down to the posedown ( Which Shawn won by a single point ).

Added Rockell: Dorian had a slight injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. this is from an IFBB judge , you say Dorian shouldn't win with a torn bicep I say Coleman shouldn't have ever won missing TWO missing calves , Bitch Tits and and a GH gut and then couple that with mediocre balance .

[pobrecito]

Would you consider a man with TWO underdevloped , unbalanced and poor shaped calves the greatest body in the world? now add in bitch tits and a GH Gut and you have Ronnie 98/99 and this is supposed to be the best he's ever looked !!

Quote Jim Rockell one of the chair of the I.F.B.B. Judging committe on Dorian at the 1994 Mr Olympia

Audience members heartily disapproved of Levrone's third place finish in the Mr Olympia contest.

Said Manion : My score sheet was identical to the final results. Dorian (Yates' ) size and rear blew everyone else away. Shawn ( Ray ) was in great shape but couldn't top Dorian this time. The same is true with Kevin , Paul Dillett seemed to be holding water. If Kevin and Paul came in top shape , they would have been right up there.

Added Rockell: Dorian had a SLIGHT injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. He was just so dense it made no overall difference. Paul's major deficiencies were in his back : not enough muscularity for his large frame. also basic stamina throughout was in question ; during call-outs , he was breathing heavy and bending over.

Kevin has it all but was a little soft in prejudging , which hurt him. He wasn't quite as sharp as Shawn , but it was very close between second and third. It came down to the posedown ( Which Shawn won by a single point ).

Added Rockell: Dorian had a slight injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. this is from an IFBB judge , you say Dorian shouldn't win with a torn bicep I say Coleman shouldn't have ever won missing TWO missing calves , Bitch Tits and and a GH gut and then couple that with mediocre balance .

Exactly. Coleman's flaws are more severe than Yates and this is perfectly reflected in his scores from the judges.

Now I will wait for more bullshit from Hulkster to explain why Ronnie got worse scores than Dorian.

[pobrecito]

Delta on Dorian at the 1995 Mr. Olympia: "The show was over the second Dorian walked out"

Then we have this dweeb sitting behind his computer screen telling us Dorian did not deserve the scores.

What a crock of shit.

[pobrecito]

1995 was a massacre.

[NarcissisticDeity]

according to ND, Pubic and Co. "arms hardly mean anything in bodybuilding"

 

I never said " arms hardly mean anything in bodybuilding " thats your pathetic attempt to make shit up because as usual you have nothing for me .

I've said the torn bicep could ONLY hurt Dorian in one pose and thats the front double biceps , you can pose around a torn bicep you can't with two underdeveloped poorly shaped calves , I've said this forever and I will continue to force feed you this tit-bit of information

Weak Calves CANNOT be hidden , they are clearly visible in every single pose from every single angle they are a MASSIVE liability when standing next to someone with world class calves , Ronnie got away with that with Nasser but he wouldn't with Yates because unlike Nasser , Yates has a better back than Ronnie.

What does Arnold Schwarzenegger have to say about the importance of calves?

[Iceman1981]

Would you consider a man with TWO underdevloped , unbalanced and poor shaped calves the greatest body in the world? now add in bitch tits and a GH Gut and you have Ronnie 98/99 and this is supposed to be the best he's ever looked !!

Quote Jim Rockell one of the chair of the I.F.B.B. Judging committe on Dorian at the 1994 Mr Olympia

Audience members heartily disapproved of Levrone's third place finish in the Mr Olympia contest.

Said Manion : My score sheet was identical to the final results. Dorian (Yates' ) size and rear blew everyone else away. Shawn ( Ray ) was in great shape but couldn't top Dorian this time. The same is true with Kevin , Paul Dillett seemed to be holding water. If Kevin and Paul came in top shape , they would have been right up there.

Added Rockell: Dorian had a SLIGHT injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. He was just so dense it made no overall difference. Paul's major deficiencies were in his back : not enough muscularity for his large frame. also basic stamina throughout was in question ; during call-outs , he was breathing heavy and bending over.

Kevin has it all but was a little soft in prejudging , which hurt him. He wasn't quite as sharp as Shawn , but it was very close between second and third. It came down to the posedown ( Which Shawn won by a single point ).

Added Rockell: Dorian had a slight injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. this is from an IFBB judge , you say Dorian shouldn't win with a torn bicep I say Coleman shouldn't have ever won missing TWO missing calves , Bitch Tits and and a GH gut and then couple that with mediocre balance .

Stop running from the question. I said any defending Mr. Olympia ever had a "major torn muscle? and still won? You said "under developed". I'd rather have under developed calves than a major torn bicep.

I said before and I'll say again. Coleman with a GH gut should never win. but I'd rather have a little gyno than a major torn bicep.

"Quote Jim Rockell one of the chair of the I.F.B.B. Judging committe on Dorian at the 1994 Mr Olympia"
lol, I'm not surprised, a quote from the "IFBB", LOL. Ask the true fans on what they think of a torn bicep.

"Added Rockell: Dorian had a slight injury but as far as I'm concerned, it had NO bearing whatsoever"
Slight injury? I think not. A one armed man is not a slight injury. Just another biased comment by the IFBB.

[pobrecito]

The torn biceps was a liability in one pose - the front double biceps.

Other than that, it made absolutely no difference.

95 was a massacre.

[Iceman1981]

The torn biceps was a liability in one pose - the front double biceps.

Other than that, it made absolutely no difference.

95 was a massacre.

A torn bicep from the back double bi doesn't count? A torn bicep from a most muscular doesn't count?

Answer my above question please. Have you seen any defending Mr. Olympia win the title with a severely torn muscle? If you have any pictures please post?