Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

so this is "in shape" :

Yates was certainly not in shape (compared to 93) in 1994.

Its like saying Ronnie was in shape in 2001 or 2002.

he wasn't if you compare his 2001/2002 form to his 1998/1999 one

Same contest slick  its so easy to spotlight your limited abilities

[Hulkster]

0 calf development.

we can all admit it the ONLY year Ronnie's calves did not jump out at you as a huge flaw was in 99 where he was so huge and ripped that even his crappy calves looked okay.

not yates like mind you,

but okay none the less:

[pobrecito]

ooooh "The fact of the matter is an IFBB judge said it wasn't an issue"

most bodybuilders know that the IFBB  judeges are the biggest crooks around.

Just because your boy won Mr. O, you're backing the IFBB, but if he didn't win, you would know how the IFBB operates and know the real truth. It seems like you're the only one right about the IFBB judges and the millions of true fans are wrong. Any bodybuilder or judge that seriously bad talks the IFBB with the media will get his contract terminated by Joe. You think the judges or any bodybuilder would risk their job stating what really should of happened? and who really should of won? or what really is going? It has been going since Larry Scott all the way up to Coleman so please save me from the all of the bs.

No I really do not know. Like I said, show me some empirical proof of what you are claiming.

[Hulkster]

we can all admit it the ONLY year Ronnie's calves did not jump out at you as a huge flaw was in 99 where he was so huge and ripped that even his crappy calves looked okay.

not yates like mind you,

but okay none the less:

ps look at the difference in calves from 1999 to 2000.

In 2000 he was holding a lot of water, and it shoed up in his calves big time

In 1999 he was bone dry (as dry if not dryer than 98) and his calves showed detail.

[pobrecito]

Great shot of Ronnie from 1998. My favorite year by ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ooooh "The fact of the matter is an IFBB judge said it wasn't an issue"

most bodybuilders know that the IFBB  judeges are the biggest crooks around.

Just because your boy won Mr. O, you're backing the IFBB, but if he didn't win, you would know how the IFBB operates and know the real truth. It seems like you're the only one right about the IFBB judges and the millions of true fans are wrong. Any bodybuilder or judge that seriously bad talks the IFBB with the media will get his contract terminated by Joe. You think the judges or any bodybuilder would risk their job stating what really should of happened? and who really should of won? or what really is going? It has been going since Larry Scott all the way up to Coleman so please save me from the all of the bs.

LMFAO at true fans , most true fans are ignorant of the IFBB judging criteria and thats how contests are based NOT on a popularity contest and I always laugh when a Coleman fan cries about the judging being tampered with because he had 4 contests that he could have very easily lost

2001 Ronnie loses the entire pre-judging and wins both posing rounds to ' beat ' Jay , Ronnie is no Lee Labrada when it comes to posing either , never in the history of the Mr Olympia has a defending champion ever lost the pre-judging and won the whole contest , do I think the contest was fixed? ABSOLUTELY NOT so spare us the conspiracy theories because entertaining your nonsense Ronnie was gifted more than ANY Mr Olympia.

[pobrecito]

Coleman's stomach was severely bloated in 2001.

[Iceman1981]

No I really do not know. Like I said, show me some empirical proof of what you are claiming.

I can't show you the proof. No one can. No one knows but Joe, Ben and the judges.

You're asking for an answer that can not be answered, only if a IFBB judge comes out and tells the truth.

[pobrecito]

2002 was even worse than 2001

[pobrecito]

[Hulkster]

No I really do not know. Like I said, show me some empirical proof of what you are claiming.

Here is your long awaited emperical proof:


to see the proof, you have to look at dorian, then look to his left (your right) .


here we have dorian (getting a perfect score) and literally being surrounded by emperical proof

here is even more emperical proof:

[NarcissisticDeity]

ps look at the difference in calves from 1999 to 2000.

In 2000 he was holding a lot of water, and it shoed up in his calves big time

In 1999 he was bone dry (as dry if not dryer than 98) and his calves showed detail.

His calves suck period end of sentence , they lack

Shape , diamond shape in fact
Size - relative size to his quads and size in general
Development - he lacks development of the inner and outer heads of the gastrocnemius and great development of the soleus and tibialis anterior
Balance

This is a major liability especially compared to someone with world class calves like Yates , Ronnie calves throw off his lower leg balance , and all of his mandatories suffer for it , this isn't debatable its a fact.

[Hulkster]

Coleman's stomach was severely bloated in 2001.

yes, it was. It reminds me of dorian in 1996..

[delta9mda]

1997 Yates did NOT deserve to win in my opinion. every other year yes.

nd, watch the tape, you are wrong on this one. yates killed em.

[NarcissisticDeity]

2002 was even worse than 2001

LMFAO at Hulkster crying about symmetry , Ronnie arms look equal that year 

[Hulkster]

This is a major liability especially compared to someone with world class calves like Yates , Ronnie calves throw off his lower leg balance , and all of his mandatories suffer for it , this isn't debatable its a fact.

how the hell can you believe that but not believe that, um..the ARMS, QUADS, TAPER, and CHEST would not be a major liablity for Dorian against Ronnie?

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

nd, watch the tape, you are wrong on this one. yates killed em.

I'm more than willing to admit I may be wrong , Nasser might have had Yates from the front but Yates still had him from the side and the back.

[Hulkster]

LMFAO at Hulkster crying about symmetry , Ronnie arms look equal that year 

actually ND and pubic, they WERE equal in 2002:


small and depleted, but equal

[pobrecito]

Hulkster obviously can't separate preference from reality.

Shawn Ray was never a threat to win the Mr. Olympia.

MAYBE if he had proportionate calves, about 30lbs more muscle, and a better back. Then maybe he could have beaten Dorian.

Otherwise, get off Shawn's jock.

[NarcissisticDeity]

how the hell can you believe that but not believe that, um..the ARMS, QUADS, TAPER, and CHEST would not be a major liablity for Dorian against Ronnie?

 

Dorian arms are perfectly fine at his best , his biceps are huge his triceps are outstanding and his forearms forget about it , I'm surprised that you're still trying to claim that Dorian has poor ' arms ' quads ? Internet-fan-boy nothing wrong with Yates quads at his best , with the exception of his upper-seperation , taper again at his best his taper is great , chest give me a fucking break 

again with the obsession on parts , lets entertain all your nonsense that every part is better , Dorian still beat Ronnie outright in most of the mandatory poses , despite not having a better chest than Ronnie , Dorian blows Ronnie out of the water in the side chest , despite not having better ' arms ' Dorian easily beats Ronnie in the side triceps , despite NOT having Ronnie Coleman's ' superior ' quads Dorian walks all over Ronnie in the ab-thigh

You don't think Ronnie lack of Yates-type density & thickness would hurt Ronnie ? or his lack of Balance & Proportion ? or his posing ability? you pick and choose what YOU think would win I'll use the criteria in which the contests are judged by.

[NarcissisticDeity]

actually ND and pubic, they WERE equal in 2002:


small and depleted, but equal

You call that equal? lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster obviously can't separate preference from reality.

Shawn Ray was never a threat to win the Mr. Olympia.

MAYBE if he had proportionate calves, about 30lbs more muscle, and a better back. Then maybe he could have beaten Dorian.

Otherwise, get off Shawn's jock.

I know Shawn was born in the wrong era he would have done very well in the 1970s early 1980s he was never a threat to Dorian in fact only one person was and that was Flex and he wasn't much of a threat because of his lack of drive .

Dorian said the only one who could have given him trouble was Flex

[Hulkster]

Dorian arms are perfectly fine at his best

if you believe that dorian's arms were "fine" at his best then you also must believe that Ronnie's calves are "fine" at his very best also:

otherwise, you are showing your bias:

[pobrecito]

Where are Ronnie's rear delts? Where is the separation in the back? Where is the lower back thickness? Where are the calves?

[NarcissisticDeity]

if you believe that dorian's arms were "fine" at his best then you also must believe that Ronnie's calves are "fine" at his very best also:

otherwise, you are showing your bias:

Hulkster get serious , Dorian's biceps didn't lack shape , development ( compared to Ronnie yes ) or size , his triceps don't lack size , shape or development , and his forearms don't lack size , shape or development , his arms overall aren't lacking ANYWHERE near anything compared to Ronnie's calves , pathetic even trying to compare the two honestly.