Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

That just about sums up Hulkster's contribument to this thread. And when you do put up a great picture of Yates against Ronnie at his best, you get nothing but excuse after excuse as to why Dorian won the comparison. Rather lame

This best part is Ronnie has a better back because he has a small waist lol

[Hulkster]

This best part is Ronnie has a better back because he has a small waist lol

when their lats are the same width, taper makes a big difference.

remember: despite what you dorian nuthuggars say, the judges are not up there with tape measures.

appearence is everything in this sport.

[Iceman1981]

New Comparison-Debate

[pobrecito]

when their lats are the same width, taper makes a big difference.

remember: despite what you dorian nuthuggars say, the judges are not up there with tape measures.

appearence is everything in this sport.

Let's see....what did taper do for Ronnie in the 1996 Mr. Olympia? What did it do at the 2001 Mr. Olympia where Cutler was deemed to have the best physique, what did it do in 2002 against Gunther? How about against Jay this year? What did it do for Ronnie in the challenge rounds he lost?

The main problem with this whole thread is the fact that Hulkster has it set in his mind that Coleman is invincible. However, in reality, nothing could be farther from the truth. ND or I could post up a picture of Yates beating Coleman flat out (as we have multiple times) and Hulkster simply resorts to the same excuse tactics.

[pobrecito]

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hahah..good one Iceman I know exactly why you posted it.

However, the only thing Coleman is superior on in this shot is the arms, and that's it.

Dorian's back is harder and more separated everywhere, and let's not even get into the lower back.

Camp Coleman fears good shots of Yates

[Iceman1981]

Ronnie's waist is well-smaller than Dorian in that comparison.

Measure it yourself.

How about you take a time-out from this man's debate and come back when you have something substantial to offer instead of excuse after excuse. It must be difficult now that your butt buddy Pumpster is gone.

Ronnie waist is definately smaller in the comparison

[NarcissisticDeity]

when their lats are the same width, taper makes a big difference.

remember: despite what you dorian nuthuggars say, the judges are not up there with tape measures.

appearence is everything in this sport.

Again taper doesn't mean you have a better back , having a smaller waist helps with the illusion of being wider but it doesnt mean you have a better back , Ronnie's back doesn't have Dorian's density and thickness , especially in the lowerlats and lower back and this is where Dorian's wider waist is an advantage !!

[NarcissisticDeity]

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You're like Hulkster One thats a bad pic because when I scanned it and resized it its lost quality , two thats NOT Dorian at his best .

[Hulkster]

That just about sums up Hulkster's contribument to this thread. And when you do put up a great picture of Yates against Ronnie at his best, you get nothing but excuse after excuse as to why Dorian won the comparison. Rather lame

no it is not lame it is FACT.

I mean come on!

You guys post shots like this:

[img]http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp0027.jpg[/img
and then post a shot of dorian fullys spreading his lats in the relaxed pose and they scream "dorian is wider!"

well duh! When ronnie's shoulder blades are so hunched up they practically touch, of course dorian is going to be wider

if you had picked a shot where they are equally spreading their lats, you would see no difference in width, but a great difference in taper:

[Hulkster]

whoops.

ronnie comparison pic used often by the dorian fans did not show up.

here it is:

[Iceman1981]

hahah..good one Iceman I know exactly why you posted it.

However, the only thing Coleman is superior on in this shot is the arms, and that's it.

Dorian's back is harder and more separated everywhere, and let's not even get into the lower back.

Camp Coleman fears good shots of Yates

Yates lower back is a no contest. I admit.

Looks to me that Coleman has better delts, biceps, forearms, upper lats and even his lower lats look damn good. Colemans sweep to his lats look better to me. Smaller waist. Hell, even Coleman's triceps look bigger and better shape than Yates.

[Hulkster]

The main problem with this whole thread is the fact that Hulkster has it set in his mind that Coleman is invincible. However, in reality, nothing could be farther from the truth. ND or I could post up a picture of Yates beating Coleman flat out (as we have multiple times) and Hulkster simply resorts to the same excuse tactics.

yes, since ronnie was in his infant stage when dorian faced him

[NarcissisticDeity]

no it is not lame it is FACT.

I mean come on!

You guys post shots like this:

[img]http://www.ronniecoleman.net/comp0027.jpg[/img
and then post a shot of dorian fullys spreading his lats in the relaxed pose and they scream "dorian is wider!"

well duh! When ronnie's shoulder blades are so hunched up they practically touch, of course dorian is going to be wider

if you had picked a shot where they are equally spreading their lats, you would see no difference in width, but a great difference in taper:

Hulkster taper is a paper tiger , it isn't going to shift a contest one way or the other , and despite his better taper Dorian still clearly beats him in the latspreads.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, since ronnie was in his infant stage when dorian faced him

Yes infant stage lol 

[Hulkster]

Let's see....what did taper do for Ronnie in the 1996 Mr. Olympia? What did it do at the 2001 Mr. Olympia where Cutler was deemed to have the best physique, what did it do in 2002 against Gunther? How about against Jay this year? What did it do for Ronnie in the challenge rounds he lost?

The main problem with this whole thread is the fact that Hulkster has it set in his mind that Coleman is invincible. However, in reality, nothing could be farther from the truth. ND or I could post up a picture of Yates beating Coleman flat out (as we have multiple times) and Hulkster simply resorts to the same excuse tactics.

see this is where you take a page of of the "ND Handbook of Mental Retardation" when you start to isolate taper by itself.

Taper does not win contests.

but when things are close, it can tip the scales in your favor.

and besides, you could argue the flip side to your argument:

that taper has allowed Ronnie to win 8 Mr. Olympia titles, and Arnold Classic win, and more pro victories than anyone else alive, hell, almost twice as many as dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

see this is where you take a page of of the "ND Handbook of Mental Retardation" when you start to isolate taper by itself.

Taper does not win contests.

but when things are close, it can tip the scales in your favor.

and besides, you could argue the flip side to your argument:

that taper has allowed Ronnie to win 8 Mr. Olympia titles, and Arnold Classic win, and more pro victories than anyone else alive, hell, almost twice as many as dorian.

NO you can't argue taper won him more contests wow Ronnie has almost twice as many wins as Dorian in in 66 contest he got 26 wins lol Dorian got 15 wins out of 17 contests .

[Iceman1981]

Both look amazing to me. I just prefer Colemans back over Yates.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Both look amazing to me. I just prefer Colemans back over Yates.

Ronnie does have a great back NO if ands or buts about it , he compares very well to Dorian UNTIL you get to the lower back , lets say everything else is equal , lat sweep , lat width , thickness , density , traps , detail , it all stops at the lowerback , Yates simply has a better lowerback combined with all the great qualities of Ronnie's.

[Hulkster]

Yes infant stage lol 

yes, infant stage:

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, infant stage:

I realize you have to full-up your claim because you have a very weal argument but why bother? you can be proven wrong with ease , this is infant Ronnie

[Hulkster]

The main problem with this whole thread is the fact that Hulkster has it set in his mind that Coleman is invincible. However, in reality, nothing could be farther from the truth.

if you are talking about ronnie's 2001 or 2002 presentations sure.

but the reality is this:

there are a whole lot of people that believe that Ronnie in either his 98/9 or 2001 AC forms is about as close to unbeatable as you can get on a bodybuilding stage.

its been said here many times by many people other than me.

it is an opinion that has a lot of support.

you never hear anyone say something like that about yates.

never.

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, infant stage:

Whats ironic is Ronnie was one year away from winning the Olympia , so much for you theory he was 255 pounds in the bottom pic and is basically the same as 99 without the great conditioning .

[Hulkster]

I realize you have to full-up your claim because you have a very weal argument but why bother? you can be proven wrong with ease , this is infant Ronnie

your right - it IS infant ronnie:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

if you are talking about ronnie's 2001 or 2002 presentations sure.

but the reality is this:

there are a whole lot of people that believe that Ronnie in either his 98/9 or 2001 AC forms is about as close to unbeatable as you can get on a bodybuilding stage.

its been said here many times by many people other than me.

it is an opinion that has a lot of support.

you never hear anyone say something like that about yates.

never.

88% of Americans believe in Angles lol its an opinion with lots of support , it has to be true because everyone agrees lol

[pobrecito]

and besides, you could argue the flip side to your argument:

that taper has allowed Ronnie to win 8 Mr. Olympia titles, and Arnold Classic win, and more pro victories than anyone else alive, hell, almost twice as many as dorian.

Not really. I believe Flex had a better taper than Ronnie in 98 and 99, and it did squat for him, especially 98 where it was a close contest.