Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Chest? lol.



And everyone knows that black and white makes you look a million times better, and those b/w ones are the only pics which can even be compared to Ronnie anyway! Dorian never actually looked like this in colour or on a stage!

Are you kidding me ? this shot simply outclasses Ronnie. and oh yes he looks so bad in color 

[Iceman1981]

Another comparison where you compress Ronnie to make Dorian look bigger.

In this comparison, Yates pic is alot more zoomed in than Coleman. The point I was trying to make is that Yates is more off balance than Coleman in that shot big time. If the Yates fans can't see it or "don't" want to see it, then that's just too bad.

[Iceman1981]

Iceman made the comparison.

Yes I did, but if you look back a page or 2. ND and I were not talking about dwarfing because I believe that is a bad comparison shot. We were talking about being off balance. That's why I made the circles. You can "clearly" see that Yates is off balanced alot more than Coleman.

[Iceman1981]

there is no debate about this.

anyone who claims dorian yates is better balanced than Ronnie coleman IS delusional...

That's why I circled the imbalances in both guys and you can see that Yates was alot more off balanced than Coleman in this shot. ND replied but still hasn't given me a straight answer after I circled the pics.

[Iceman1981]

this collection of pics is what the video matches.

notice the color difference in coleman.

he's not as dark and doesnt appear as dry or as hard as the pics you've posted in which he is extremley dark.





even the background is darker.

why is that?

why dont your pics match the video where as the poster does?

what site are you getting your pics from?

it seems that you are stopping the video/dvd and taking pics with a digital camera and uploading them.

also, why are YOU the only one who posts those pics.  pumpster, iceman, neosemy had not posted 1 pic that matches your screen shots.   

you have some explaining to do?

I don't think Hulkster is doing anything to the pics. I've seen those same pics on many other forums and they are all the same. Some are different because of the quality of the video. I've seen those same pics taken from DVD and VHS and they are pretty much the same except for a few shots because of lighting. I hope this helps.

[IceCold]

I don't think Hulkster is doing anything to the pics. I've seen those same pics on many other forums and they are all the same. Some are different because of the quality of the video. I've seen those same pics taken from DVD and VHS and they are pretty much the same except for a few shots because of lighting. I hope this helps.

it doesnt help.

i dont think hulkster personally did anything, but there are a few strange occurances.

the pictures in the poster match the VHS (that i personally have that espn aired) and on you tube.

they also more closely resmeble the scanned pictures.

the best way to tell is the color of coleman. 

"a few shots due to lighting" would not make the background look much darker and his ENTIRE body making him look dryer and harder than every other document related to the 99 Olympia. 

what other forums have you seen those pictures on?

the person who posted them, forcedreps, had like 15 posts and hasnt posted since.

its obviously a gimmick account.  my guess is hulksters. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's why I circled the imbalances in both guys and you can see that Yates was alot more off balanced than Coleman in this shot. ND replied but still hasn't given me a straight answer after I circled the pics.

Yates is NOT more ' off balance ' than Ronnie thats your nonsense claim , besides circles give me a detailed explanation why he's ' off balance ' you're like Hulkster you don't know what balance is.

[Iceman1981]

Yates is NOT more ' off balance ' than Ronnie thats your nonsense claim , besides circles give me a detailed explanation why he's ' off balance ' you're like Hulkster you don't know what balance is.

lol. I don't know what balance is? I made the circles on the pics of the imbalances. You call having a right delt and whole right arm bigger than the left delt and whole left arm not imbalanced? I told you in words and now I'm showing you in pics that Yates is off balance. What more proof do you want.

Besides circles? lol. It's clearly to see he is off balanced. Any idiot can see he is off balanced big time.

In case you didn't see it, here it is again.

[Iceman1981]

it doesnt help.

i dont think hulkster personally did anything, but there are a few strange occurances.

the pictures in the poster match the VHS (that i personally have that espn aired) and on you tube.

they also more closely resmeble the scanned pictures.

the best way to tell is the color of coleman. 

"a few shots due to lighting" would not make the background look much darker and his ENTIRE body making him look dryer and harder than every other document related to the 99 Olympia. 

what other forums have you seen those pictures on?

the person who posted them, forcedreps, had like 15 posts and hasnt posted since.

its obviously a gimmick account.  my guess is hulksters. 

You just said "I dont think hulkster personally did anything". No one can prove that "forcedreps" is Hulkster. I think this is getting out of hand. The pics look the same to me. It all depends what quality of video you are taking the screencaps from.

[Shockwave]

Ronnie doesn't look nearly so impressive in the 99 pics as he does those screencaps though.

[pobrecito]

Ronnie doesn't look nearly so impressive in the 99 pics as he does those screencaps though.

exactly.

[Shockwave]

exactly.

To be fair, neither does Dorian though.

[pobrecito]

To be fair, neither does Dorian though.

Ehh....I disagree, Ronnie holds his own on the screencaps which enhance his look, but the second you use a REAL picture, he falls short of Yates.

[Hulkster]

That's why I circled the imbalances in both guys and you can see that Yates was alot more off balanced than Coleman in this shot. ND replied but still hasn't given me a straight answer after I circled the pics.

ND has NEVER been able to give a straight answer about why dorian is supposedly "far better balanced and proportioned" than Ronnie.

he is the only person on this board that believes this.

no one else does.

[pobrecito]

ND has NEVER been able to give a straight answer about why dorian is supposedly "far better balanced and proportioned" than Ronnie.

he is the only person on this board that believes this.

no one else does.

You are sorely mistaken about that and show your ignorance about the matter. I agree with ND as do many others.

[pobrecito]

" Good God!!

In an earlier post, I mentioned that I had always believed that Dorian Yates became Mr. Olympia because he was proportioned and that for the most part, his competitors only saw his mass and tried to compete with him on size.

This photo comparison truly confirms for me that belief. I truly believe that in each and every comparison, Yates defeats Coleman. I honestly do.

His proportions totally blow away Coleman's. I think that it can be argued that perhaps Dorian Yates was the last of the 'Ironage' bodybuilders, bodybuilders that strived for proportionate development. Certainly he was the last Mr. Olympia to display proportioned development.

Thankyou very, very much Quadzilla for posting those photos!


- Sleiman Azizi -"

[pobrecito]

" The arguement over at getbig is Ronnie has him on delts (size), quads (size), biceps (size).
The people that say this believe just because these parts are bigger that Ronnie has Dorian beat.
Ronnie just looks like he's been chucked together."

[pobrecito]

"The '93 Dorian is one of my all time favourite physiques, I think it's a stretch to call him aesthetic, but I think those pictures do illustrate that at this point in his career he was huge and proportionate,whilst he was a little wide in the waist he wasn't distended at this point and it fitted with the rest of his physique.I think he does Ronnie in nearly every pose and bodypart(and this from a self confessed Coleman fan)"

[pobrecito]

"Ronnie has bad gyno and looks like he just swalllowed a bowling ball in those pics. Ronnie carries more weight but his physique is sloppy and his bodyparts (other than the ham-glute tie in, which is not a look I like but is noteworthy anyway) have no continuity.  His back is enormous, but is watery, lacks good definition, and resembles a ham more than back musculature.

Yates has proportion at least by comparison, and truly outstanding calf development and great back thickness/definition combo. His abs are tight( at least relative to coleman) and he has no gyno.  He is cut and dry unlike ronnie.  I never thought I'd say it, but I think Yates is the lesser of two evils here"

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol. I don't know what balance is? I made the circles on the pics of the imbalances. You call having a right delt and whole right arm bigger than the left delt and whole left arm not imbalanced? I told you in words and now I'm showing you in pics that Yates is off balance. What more proof do you want.

Besides circles? lol. It's clearly to see he is off balanced. Any idiot can see he is off balanced big time.

In case you didn't see it, here it is again.

First of all that pic isn't 100% accurate because it was squeezed into a work area , second of all here is the original and what you're talking about is left/right symmetry in NO bodybuilder is 100% symmetrical in all muscles hence why always one arm is slightly bigger than the other or noticeably

I'm talking about balance & proportion , are Ronnie's calves in proportion with his quads? NO his calves are to small for his quads and this effects his lower leg balance , is Ronnie's glutes in proportion with his physique? NO they're way to overdeveloped and stick out and an be seen from the front , this effects balance , you look at Ronnie's forearms are they in proportion with his massive biceps/triceps? NO his forearms look small compared to the rest of his arms , again good balance? NO Dorian doesn't have this problem , look at Ronnie's delts in the rear double biceps shot his biceps/triceps at times make his delts look smaller , this isn't great balance , you look at Ronnie's side chest pose m his front & side deltoids dominate this pose to the point it obscures his pecs , in some shots Ronnie's pecs look smaller than his delts , again a balance issue , I know you're Johnny-come-lately on this thread but this topic has been covered , you know nothing about bodybuilding if you think Ronnie has better balance than Dorian at his best.

[pobrecito]

"I think no one could stand next to the 93 version of Yates. I think picture comparing doesn't give the answer.  You would have to have two bodybuilders in question  standing next to each other.  Doing a side by side picture you always have the proportions off.  I'm a ironage fan but I have to admit that he was light years ahead. "

[Shockwave]

Hey ND, can you post those 93 prejudging pics?
Where Dorian just steamrolled everyone?

[Hulkster]

is Ronnie's glutes in proportion with his physique? NO they're way to overdeveloped

see this is why your arguement about ronnie's balance and proportion, is, like sucky's posts, full of misinformation.

look at his glutes - do they look out of place against his massive back?

no.

Do they look that much "overdeveloped" compared to Kevin and Flex?

no.

Your argument is based largely on misinformation...

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND has NEVER been able to give a straight answer about why dorian is supposedly "far better balanced and proportioned" than Ronnie.

he is the only person on this board that believes this.

no one else does.

You're full of shit kid , I beat this issue to death eons ago ! I'll go through it again if you want , I'm stupid like that , but this issue has been addressed well addressed ! and I don't care what you or your ignorant posse believe , you believe Dorian's conditioning was a myth , your beliefs are tainted by ignorance & pure stupidity .

[Hulkster]

, look at Ronnie's delts in the rear double biceps shot his biceps/triceps at times make his delts look smaller , this isn't great balance

again more misinformation in ND's balance/proportion argument:



ND's posts are just like Sucky's:

wordy. long. sound good if you don't think about it or use your brain.

but if you stop for a minute, you quickly realize that most of what he bases his arguments on are flat out wrong...