Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

You're full of shit kid , I beat this issue to death eons ago ! I'll go through it again if you want , I'm stupid like that , but this issue has been addressed well addressed ! and I don't care what you or your ignorant posse believe , you believe Dorian's conditioning was a myth , your beliefs are tainted by ignorance & pure stupidity .

you are missing a crucial point as usual:

ronnie ass in 2003/4 seemed a whole lot proportionally larger than it did at his best in 98/99:



see?

its good to be smart.

[NarcissisticDeity]

see this is why your arguement about ronnie's balance and proportion, is, like sucky's posts, full of misinformation.

look at his glutes - do they look out of place against his massive back?

no.

Do they look that much "overdeveloped" compared to Kevin and Flex?

no.

Your argument is based largely on misinformation...

Misinformation? lol another cute term NO ONE informed me his glutes were overdeveloped I came to that conclusion myself by looking at pictures and typical/predictable Hulkster move set up a strawman to knock down and think you've accomplished something , like most of your other claims you've made on ground on this one .

Here need some reference pics? let me help. 

[pobrecito]

again more misinformation in ND's balance/proportion argument:



ND's posts are just like Sucky's:

wordy. long. sound good if you don't think about it or use your brain.

but if you stop for a minute, you quickly realize that most of what he bases his arguments on are flat out wrong...

I just quickly found 5 people who think Yates was more balanced and proportioned that Coleman ever was....I'm not surprised you ignored it. Ronnie is nothing more than a lumping together of a few great parts with a few bad parts that faced inferior competition.

[Shockwave]

Ronnie is a freaky collection of freaky bodyparts; a conglomeration that doesn't add up to a superior whole.
He has that super freak factor.

[NarcissisticDeity]

again more misinformation in ND's balance/proportion argument:



ND's posts are just like Sucky's:

wordy. long. sound good if you don't think about it or use your brain.

but if you stop for a minute, you quickly realize that most of what he bases his arguments on are flat out wrong...

LMFAO kid you're weak , you're arguments are just as weak lol you post a picture where clearly Ronnie's calves are NOT in proportion with his quads , where his forearms are NOT in proportion with his biceps/triceps , where his biceps/triceps are bigger than his delts , at times especially when he was lighter  this was as BAD as it was when he was much heavier but again Dorian has better balance & proportion .

1st pic peep the calves lol No keep looking you'll find them ( I think ) thats great lower leg balance & proportion? 

2nd pic check out the montser balance in his forearms

3rd pic when he was lighter still very noticeable arms way to big for everything else

4th pic same thing arms dominating delts

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie is a freaky collection of freaky bodyparts; a conglomeration that doesn't add up to a superior whole.
He has that super freak factor.

Thank you ! someone who gets it . at times his balance looked better but overall its not as good as Dorian's this is why despite all his supposedly ' inferior ' parts Yates simply looks better in most of the mandatory poses .

[Hulkster]

I just quickly found 5 people who think Yates was more balanced and proportioned that Coleman ever was....I'm not surprised you ignored it. Ronnie is nothing more than a lumping together of a few great parts with a few bad parts that faced inferior competition.

do a poll and you will find dozens and dozens of people that think that 99 ronnie was better than dorian ever was....

It would be a landslide win for Coleman just like it was the first time around.

so what is your point?

[pobrecito]

do a poll and you will find dozens and dozens of people that think that 99 ronnie was better than dorian ever was....

It would be a landslide win for Coleman just like it was the first time around.

so what is your point?

The GetBig poll is hardly accurate for several reasons. #1) people are very ignorant of the judging criteria. You cannot just "look" at Coleman's freaky parts and deem him the winner. It's how all those parts fit together that wins. #2) People on here likely havent seen, or do not recall Yates at his peak as that was over a decade ago. Conduct the poll 10-20 years from now and Yates wins, hands down. It's just like the recent NCAA football situation with Florida and Michigan. Michigan was the legit #2, but since they hadn't played in 3 weeks and werent in the minds of the voters, Florida passed them.

[NarcissisticDeity]

do a poll and you will find dozens and dozens of people that think that 99 ronnie was better than dorian ever was....

It would be a landslide win for Coleman just like it was the first time around.

so what is your point?

Argument Ad Populum never worked for you before , most bodybuilding fans base their opinion on personal preferences , most ( like you ) are ignorant of the judging criteria ( you again )  do I want to look like Dorian Yates ...NO...do I think Dorian Yates at his best would beat Ronnie at his...Yes !! do I care if the masses agree with me? NO this has nothing to do with popular opinion there is criteria and most ( like you ) didn't know it favors Dorian.

[Shockwave]

Pre-judging - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9092147985835496662&q=mr.+olympia+1993+pre-judging&hl=en

Posing Routine - 

Thought I'd repost these...
Pay particular attention to the pre-judging vid.

[pobrecito]

Pre-judging - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9092147985835496662&q=mr.+olympia+1993+pre-judging&hl=en

Posing Routine - 

Thought I'd repost these...
Pay particular attention to the pre-judging vid.

Man, Yates looks un-fucking real there, head to toe. Coleman *never* looked that complete.

[Shockwave]

Man, Yates looks un-fucking real there, head to toe. Coleman *never* looked that complete.

That pre-judging vid blows me away. He flat out DESTROYS Flex and Shawn. And even his front relaxed pose looks stellar.

[Shockwave]

Not to mention, his quads are destroying Shawns. You cant really see Flex's due to the lighting.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hey ND, can you post those 93 prejudging pics?
Where Dorian just steamrolled everyone?

Here you go.

[pobrecito]

ND, that picture is from the evening show.....post pre-judging pictures where Yates was even better (See video above)

[Iceman1981]

First of all that pic isn't 100% accurate because it was squeezed into a work area , second of all here is the original and what you're talking about is left/right symmetry in NO bodybuilder is 100% symmetrical in all muscles hence why always one arm is slightly bigger than the other or noticeably

I'm talking about balance & proportion , are Ronnie's calves in proportion with his quads? NO his calves are to small for his quads and this effects his lower leg balance , is Ronnie's glutes in proportion with his physique? NO they're way to overdeveloped and stick out and an be seen from the front , this effects balance , you look at Ronnie's forearms are they in proportion with his massive biceps/triceps? NO his forearms look small compared to the rest of his arms , again good balance? NO Dorian doesn't have this problem , look at Ronnie's delts in the rear double biceps shot his biceps/triceps at times make his delts look smaller , this isn't great balance , you look at Ronnie's side chest pose m his front & side deltoids dominate this pose to the point it obscures his pecs , in some shots Ronnie's pecs look smaller than his delts , again a balance issue , I know you're Johnny-come-lately on this thread but this topic has been covered , you know nothing about bodybuilding if you think Ronnie has better balance than Dorian at his best.

Those 2 pics are totally different so don't give me that bull that pic isn't 100% accurate because it was squeezed into a work area. In the comparison pic Yates, he has a grunt look on his face and in the pic you posted Yates has a grin on his face. In the comparison pic the pic is taken from straight on, but the pic you posted is taken from a slight angle. Plus the shadow on on him are all different. That takes care of that.

Ofcourse NO bodybuilder is 100% symmetrical in all muscles, but in that comparison pic Yates is not "slightly" off balanced, he is "really" off balanced. Just admit it. Everyone sees it but you. Here it is agan.

Also I never claimed Coleman was more balanced than yates. So stop the the johnny come late to this thread shyt. I may have entered this thread late, but I know my stuff. I said that Coleman is more balanced in that "Comparison pic". I never mentioned Coleman's calves or glutes or back double bi. So stop trying to change the subject buddy.

Get your facts straight before jumping on me again. Just to remind you here is "off balanced" Yates.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, that picture is from the evening show.....post pre-judging pictures where Yates was even better (See video above)

Prejudging

[Shockwave]

Prejudging

Look at his quads flat out destroying Shawn's... 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Those 2 pics are totally different so don't give me that bull that pic isn't 100% accurate because it was squeezed into a work area. In the comparison pic Yates, he has a grunt look on his face and in the pic you posted Yates has a grin on his face. In the comparison pic the pic is taken from straight on, but the pic you posted is taken from a slight angle. Plus the shadow on on him are all different. That takes care of that.

Ofcourse NO bodybuilder is 100% symmetrical in all muscles, but in that comparison pic Yates is not "slightly" off balanced, he is "really" off balanced. Just admit it. Everyone sees it but you. Here it is agan.

Also I never claimed Coleman was more balanced than yates. So stop the the johnny come late to this thread shyt. I may have entered this thread late, but I know my stuff. I said that Coleman is more balanced in that "Comparison pic". I never mentioned Coleman's calves or glutes or back double bi. So stop trying to change the subject buddy.

Get your facts straight before jumping on me again. Just to remind you here is "off balanced" Yates.

Both pics are from the Kevin Horton photoshoot in 1993 and neither one of his arms are as unbalanced as you claim , you can clearly see one arm better because the other is obscured by a shadow , so once again your claim is empty and you like Hulkster need to learn what balance is Ronnie's biceps/triceps are NOT balanced with his forearms in this pose , and again you never explained why he is ' off balance ' you circled an area and said " see " NO explain why he is unbalanced in this shot and Ronnie is , and enevrmind the whole pose , where you can see Ronnie's lower leg imbalance and I mentioned the other poses because you think his balance or lack there of is only evident in one pose?

Yates is a better balanced bodybuilder this has been proven get with the program.

[Shockwave]

Wait wait wait...
Is that a difference in the length of the traps I see on Flex?
Wasn't Hulkster bitching and saying that Dorian's traps are asymmetrical?
Well, looks like Flex's are too!

[NarcissisticDeity]

1993

[NarcissisticDeity]

1993 again

[Shockwave]

The other thing I noticed about Dorian is that he holds the pose.
He doesn't flip around and crap trying to impress the judges. He hits the pose, holds it, and lets the judges actually judge. Classy.

[forcedreps]

the dark ones though still dont match the others or the videos.

the background is also darker prooving that coleman is darker and that makes him look harder and dryer.

dont get me wrong the poster and video is enough for coleman and he still looks great great.

but ever since i saw the dark ones, something just doesnt add up.

besides, forcedreps is probably one of your gimmick accounts.

 

Yeah I'm Hulkster, man you are full of shit if you really believe that 

I'm from germany and the only reason why I don't post much here is that I'm a bodybuilder and bodybuilding happens in the gym so I don't have the time like you to visit the board 24/7 

I prefer to look like a bodybuilder instead of waisting my time by arguing on the net which pro would beat a other pro if they would compete together

Besides that I'm not a guy of coleman,yates,haney or a other pro 

I'm just a regular bodybuilding fan and I couldn't care less what internet fanboys think.

The only reason why I have posted the pics and the vids was to provide more material for the topic here.
I must admit it's always fun to check this topic from time to time.

Guys that insult others as internet-fan-boy,crybabies or nut-huggers are always entertaining 

Some of you guys should really realize first that it's stupid to call someone guy, internet-fan-boy etc... if you act the same over a other pro

@IceCold

BTW, the yates 93 pics/vids were ripped from the original DVD in very high quality and the coleman 99 pics/vids were taken from a crapy VHS tape cause I was too lazy to search on my DVD's for the 99 MR.O.

If someone has an advantage from the quality of the material  *pics/vids* then it's yates so please do me a favour and STFU with your stupid presumptions and go to a gym you skinny little bitch     

[pobrecito]

Even in the offseason, Yates had an excellent ab/thigh