Author Topic: Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce  (Read 3506052 times)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20100 on: January 10, 2007, 05:38:22 PM »
I think ND has reading comprehension problems...

he is just not getting it.

he made the comment and cannot get out of it now.

Again Hulkster stop insinuating , assuming , presuming , guessing , jumping to conclusions , please post exactly where I said those were fake I dare you , I can post you exactly where I said they weren't fake

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20101 on: January 10, 2007, 05:39:25 PM »
I believe, the original argument was:

Ronnie was not better conditioned that Dorian.

Drop the other fake screencap bullshit.

Bottom line reached;

Ronnie was softer 99 than 98.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20102 on: January 10, 2007, 05:39:46 PM »
We have all ready admitted that they are different, but guys like Icecold and pubes are claiming that the bottom pics is fake and the video. What else do you want us to say?

I don't care what you say if you can find me saying feel free to post it but they're making a leap by saying I did say it , now its been reduced to I implied it lol its nonsense

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20103 on: January 10, 2007, 05:41:13 PM »
Well, I now just downloaded the video, so in future reference if any yates guy claims it is a fake I have proof. I did this because you never know when the video will be taken down.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20104 on: January 10, 2007, 05:41:19 PM »
I believe, the original argument was:

Ronnie was not better conditioned that Dorian.

Drop the other fake screencap bullshit.

Bottom line reached;

Ronnie was softer 99 than 98.

And softer than Dorian 93 or 95.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20105 on: January 10, 2007, 05:43:09 PM »
I don't care what you say if you can find me saying feel free to post it but they're making a leap by saying I did say it , now its been reduced to I implied it lol its nonsense

I never accused you of saying they were fake. pubes and Icecold said they were. So please keep your aguement with whom ever you're arguing with.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20106 on: January 10, 2007, 05:43:45 PM »
I believe, the original argument was:

Ronnie was not better conditioned that Dorian.

Drop the other fake screencap bullshit.

Bottom line reached;

Ronnie was softer 99 than 98.

Great post and right to the original point.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20107 on: January 10, 2007, 05:46:23 PM »
I believe, the original argument was:

Ronnie was not better conditioned that Dorian.

Drop the other fake screencap bullshit.

Bottom line reached;

Ronnie was softer 99 than 98.

but not in the quads.

and he looked a lot better in 99 anyway thanks to increase in fullness.

his most musculars in 99 made him look like he was going to explode.

In 98, not to the same degree.

the added size/fullness benefitted his look.

98 vs 99 screencap:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20108 on: January 10, 2007, 05:49:13 PM »
but not in the quads.

and he looked a lot better in 99 anyway thanks to increase in fullness.

his most musculars in 99 made him look like he was going to explode.

In 98, not to the same degree.

the added size/fullness benefitted his look.

98 vs 99 screencap:



I personally feel he looks better fuller but his hardness & dryness suffer for it condition wise Ronnie was harder & drier in 98 and 2001 and contrary to your belief conditioning usually makes the difference in close contests Flex/Ronnie 98

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20109 on: January 10, 2007, 05:49:53 PM »
Well, then ND, tell us, if you thought they were real from the beginning then what exactly did you mean by saying that all of our explanations were 'excuses'

explain your comment then.

I had to explain my "blocky white guy" comment made eons ago.

now, its your turn to do some explaining.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20110 on: January 10, 2007, 05:52:38 PM »
when the 99 prejudging is posted, it will be a real eye opener for both sides.

Ronnie had good oil, good lighting and looked amazing.

much better than his oil-less and darkly lit night show routine.

I have the VHS tape, and I still maintain that, at least from what I have seen of the 93 O., dorian would not have been able to overcome that combo of lines, taper, detail and size.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20111 on: January 10, 2007, 06:09:46 PM »
Well, then ND, tell us, if you thought they were real from the beginning then what exactly did you mean by saying that all of our explanations were 'excuses'

explain your comment then.

I had to explain my "blocky white guy" comment made eons ago.

now, its your turn to do some explaining.

Well if you care you know .................. :) your orginal claim was that there was NO difference between the pictures & other screencaps I said nonsense and I maintained you have to be blind not to see the obvious difference in color which reluctantly you guys admitted and I believe it was only after I posted the same pictures ontop of each other and once I did that I knew the excuses would be rolling in and if you search you'll see I said they weren't fake and you didn't knowingly post them even if they were  ;)

and then you have the balls to claim I accused you of them being fake which by the way you had zero proof of and went to great lengths to try and prove lol and to top it all off you , yourself claimed this picture was ' morphed ' so the pot calling the kettle black or the pot calling the kettle ' blocky white' ?  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20112 on: January 10, 2007, 06:28:46 PM »
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Ronnie spanks both of them. Hate it or love it.

First of all, his symmetry is much better than eithier of the two. Ronnie has a small hips, big arms, wide back and shoulders while Cutler has wide hips, wide shoulders and arms that don't match up. Dorian is not in the ball park on this one.

excellent post that is a refreshing dose of reality from the jay/dorian/ronnie thread.

it echos what we have been saying:

in terms of balance and symmetry, Dorian is not even in the same ball park as ronnie :P

*thanks to dredlock rasta for this excellent summary of dorian's physique :-*
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20113 on: January 10, 2007, 06:30:45 PM »
ND, what does that explanation have to do with this post? I believe King Hulkster was refering to this comment.

FINAL PROVE ON FAKE PICS FROM 1999.

HERE IS THE ENTIRE ROUTINE AND IN NO WAY DO THEY MATCH THE PICS HULKSTER HAS BEEN POSTING SINCE PAGE 18.

NOTICE RONNIE'S COLOR AND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THAT AND THE DOCTURED PICS.

Countdown to the excues........5........4 .........3......

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20114 on: January 10, 2007, 06:33:40 PM »
excellent post that is a refreshing dose of reality from the jay/dorian/ronnie thread.

it echos what we have been saying:

in terms of balance and symmetry, Dorian is not even in the same ball park as ronnie :P

*thanks to dredlock rasta for this excellent summary of dorian's physique :-*

Genius reality of the IFBB judging criteria NOT someone's opinion based on their personal preference  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20115 on: January 10, 2007, 06:35:06 PM »
ND, what does that explanation have to do with this post? I believe King Hulkster was refering to this comment.


King? King of the meltdowns lol and I did explain what I said by countdown to the excuses  ;) so Queen Neo please keep trying to own me maybe some day you'll catch me slipping , doubtful but hey even I'm " only human '

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20116 on: January 10, 2007, 06:39:02 PM »
King? King of the meltdowns lol and I did explain what I said by countdown to the excuses  so Sir Neo please keep trying to own me maybe some day you'll catch me slipping , doubtful but hey even I'm " only human '

where did you explain what you meant by "countdown to the excuses?"

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20117 on: January 10, 2007, 06:41:33 PM »
where did you explain what you meant by "countdown to the excuses?"

Well if you care you know .................. Smiley your orginal claim was that there was NO difference between the pictures & other screencaps I said nonsense and I maintained you have to be blind not to see the obvious difference in color which reluctantly you guys admitted and I believe it was only after I posted the same pictures ontop of each other and once I did that I knew the excuses would be rolling in and if you search you'll see I said they weren't fake and you didn't knowingly post them even if they were  Wink

and then you have the balls to claim I accused you of them being fake which by the way you had zero proof of and went to great lengths to try and prove lol and to top it all off you , yourself claimed this picture was ' morphed ' so the pot calling the kettle black or the pot calling the kettle ' blocky white' ?  Wink

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20118 on: January 10, 2007, 06:41:45 PM »
where did you explain what you meant by "countdown to the excuses?"

he can't.

he got caught agreeing with Icehole and he knows it.

he's just avoiding the explanation now...

ps everyone go check out ND melting down in the jay/ronnie/dorian thread because a newbie (dredlock rasta) knows more about physique judging than ND does! 8)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20119 on: January 10, 2007, 06:43:05 PM »
he can't.

he got caught agreeing with Icehole and he knows it.

he's just avoiding the explanation now...

ps everyone go check out ND melting down in the jay/ronnie/dorian thread because a newbie (dredlock rasta) knows more about physique judging than ND does! 8)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20120 on: January 10, 2007, 06:49:20 PM »
Suckmyasshole, your post may sound plausible but quickly falls apart upon closer inspection. Ronnie had larger biceps, triceps, pecs, delts, glutes and quads, yet he supposedly had less muscular bulk than Dorian? I've already demonstrated why their backs were equivalent in width and thickness. This means Dorian made up the difference in weight someone else, most likely his midsection.

  Semen, your post is based on two false premisses:

 - With the exception of biceps, glutes and quads, Ronnie in his 1999 form does not have larger muscles than Dorian, anf the latter compensates by having bigger muscles elsewhere - like in his chest and back.

 - Dorian's gut is not bigger than Ronnie's, being, in fact, smaller.

  You simply can't get over these facts; you know it, and it eats you inside. Since they weight exactly the same, and yet Dorian has less water outside the muscles but less inside, then odds are strongly on his side that he carries more lean mass. Again, just because Ronnie's muscle look bigger doesen't mean that they are. Like Wheeler, Ronnie has relatively small joints and round muscles, which gives the impression that his muscles are bigger than they really are. Now, from a bodybuilding standpoint this is relevant, but it is not in this matter because the issue here is sheer amount of muscularf tissue, and not how big the muscles look. Owned...again. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20121 on: January 10, 2007, 06:51:49 PM »
Semen, your post is based on two false premisses:

- With the exception of biceps, glutes and quads, Ronnie in his 1999 form does not have larger muscles than Dorian, anf the latter compensates by having bigger muscles elsewhere - like in his chest and back.

- Dorian's gut is not bigger than Ronnie's, being, in fact, smaller.

You simply can't get over these facts; you know it, and it eats you inside. Since they weight exactly the same, and yet Dorian has less water outside the muscles but less inside, then odds are strongly on his side that he carries more lean mass. Again, just because Ronnie's muscle look bigger doesen't mean that they are. Like Wheeler, Ronnie has relatively small joints and round muscles, which gives the impression that his muscles are bigger than they really are. Now, from a bodybuilding standpoint this is relevant, but it is not in this matter because the issue here is sheer amount of muscularf tissue, and not how big the muscles look. Owned...again.

yawn, I'm just going around in circles with you. Everything you said has already been disproven. Nice try kid. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20122 on: January 10, 2007, 06:56:37 PM »
yawn, everything you just said has already been disproven a while ago. Nice try kid. ;)

Neo unless you can post a quote from me saying specifically those screen caps are fake you're owning yourself regularly and do I dare say you're making yourself look more stupid with each post , you're patting yourself on a job well done for catch me in nothing lol kid you're working with zero.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20123 on: January 10, 2007, 06:58:35 PM »
 Semen, your post is based on two false premisses:

 - With the exception of biceps, glutes and quads, Ronnie in his 1999 form does not have larger muscles than Dorian, anf the latter compensates by having bigger muscles elsewhere - like in his chest and back.

 - Dorian's gut is not bigger than Ronnie's, being, in fact, smaller.

  You simply can't get over these facts; you know it, and it eats you inside. Since they weight exactly the same, and yet Dorian has less water outside the muscles but less inside, then odds are strongly on his side that he carries more lean mass. Again, just because Ronnie's muscle look bigger doesen't mean that they are. Like Wheeler, Ronnie has relatively small joints and round muscles, which gives the impression that his muscles are bigger than they really are. Now, from a bodybuilding standpoint this is relevant, but it is not in this matter because the issue here is sheer amount of muscularf tissue, and not how big the muscles look. Owned...again. ;)

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alot of errors in this post..

first of all, the glutes and quads are ENORMOUS musclegroups.

they are not small like forearms and calves.

secondly, ronnie's chest in 99 was not smaller than dorian's. It was probably bigger.

thirdly, where to you get the idea that dorian's gut was smaller when his obliques hung over the side of his trunks AND he had a huge GH gut in 93. watch the video.

at least ronnie had a trim waist:



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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20124 on: January 10, 2007, 07:04:39 PM »
Neo unless you can post a quote from me saying specifically those screen caps are fake you're owning yourself regularly and do I dare say you're making yourself look more stupid with each post , you're patting yourself on a job well done for catch me in nothing lol kid you're working with zero.

I was talking to Suckmyasshole. Way to take my quote out of context. Also, you didn't have to explicitly say the screen caps were fake b/c you agreed with Asshole's comment.