Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL

since I posted that prejudging vid from google ND is melting down.

if you go down this list, the google video shows that every single item on it is WRONG

(although they are tied for the muscular 'bulk' one - however, Ronnie's 'bulk' is much better placed)

Yawn... Hulkster you can't counter the criteria and you're fucked and you know it , no matter how many slanted comparisons you do you will never be able to counter the criteria , Dorian has to many strengths

[Iceman1981]

I mean seriously NO water what so ever , detailed from fingertip to finger tip with unrivaled hardness & density if I seen a Ronnie pic that could equal this I'd say Ronnie was comparable in all the pics of Ronnie I ever seen nothing comes close

lol, you and that "no water" comment. yates is detailed, but that back double bi still looked flat no matter what you say or how many pics you post and thickness in that pose counts a lot in the scoring. Plus Coleman is detailed also. He might not be striated in his traps, but Coleman still has more striations and seperation throughout his body than yates.

I'm even more convinced after watching the 99 pre judging video that yates couldn't beat Coleman. I can't wait to see his individual routine. That would be even better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look at the difference between the triceps Yates just crushes Ronnie in terms of shape , separation , detail and hardness I mean there is NO comparison Ronnie's may be bigger but like his waist whats the sense when its lacking?

[onlyme]

OH MY GOD!

[Iceman1981]

His arms are HUGE in 95

lol, a side shot. You mind posting a front shot of that sAme pose from the same contest. Oh wait, I will: RESULT

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol, you and that "no water" comment. yates is detailed, but that back double bi still looked flat no matter what you say or how many pics you post and thickness in that pose counts a lot in the scoring. Plus Coleman is detailed also. He might not be striated in his traps, but Coleman still has more striations and seperation throughout his body than yates.

I'm even more convinced after watching the 99 pre judging video that yates couldn't beat Coleman. I can't wait to see his individual routine. That would be even better.

When you say it looks flat that means nothing it's an imaginary edge you guys think means something lol and Coleman has more striations & separation in his whole body ? where? Dorian's whole midsection is just that much better , Dorian's abdominals , intercostals , serattus and obliques all show better separation & more crisp detail & striations , so you're already down the whole midsection

Dorian's back forget it NO contest what-so-ever , Dorian's back is much more detailed and striated , thats two major areas he's down

Dorian's chest has striations and pleanty of them Ronnie may have more I doubt it they're just more visible because of his darker skin , thats a push

Dorian's calves are much more detailed & separated , strike three for Ronnie

Quads - Ronnie has better upper separation & Dorian has better separation of the thigh-rod one cancels the other

Triceps - get serious look at the above comparison , Dorian again

Delts - both are separated & detailed but look at the 1995 screencaps Dorian may have the edge

Biceps - No contest

So what do you think you're working with here sport? and I can post pics to back up all my claims . 

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol, a side shot. You mind posting a front shot of that sAme pose from the same contest. Oh wait, I will: RESULT

Dorian's arms don't look huge dead-on but they do from the side 

[Iceman1981]

Dorian's arms don't look huge dead-on but they do from the side 

Anyone arms looks huge from the side, that doesn't mean they are big. lol. Is that your explanation? Dorian straight up can not win that pose. Here he is in the same pose in 94, 95, 96, 97. Man his arms are so smooth.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Anyone arms looks huge from the side, that doesn't mean they are big. lol. Is that your explanation? Dorian straight up can not win that pose.

You're full of shit eveyone arms look huge from the side 

[pobrecito]

Anyone arms looks huge from the side, that doesn't mean they are big. lol. Is that your explanation? Dorian straight up can not win that pose.

Dorian's arms are far far less of a liability than Ronnie's calves. For one, Ronnie's calves suck far far worse than Dorian's arms. Secondly, Ronnie's calves are visible in every fucking pose! The short bicep only hurts Yates in the front double biceps.

[IceCold]

I'm even more convinced after watching the 99 pre judging video that yates couldn't beat Coleman. I can't wait to see his individual routine. That would be even better.

i posted it.

i posted it to prove my point about the fake pics.

everything else related to the 99 olympia match what is on youtube - vhs, dvd, pictures, etc.

the only that doestn match is the google clip where anyone can tell from the quality of the video that it aint real.  

let me know if you need me to post both links to prove my fucking point again.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

From YouTube

[pobrecito]

Ronnie's looks softer than a pancake in the real 99 video. Not even close to Yates. Pathetic actually

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie's looks softer than a pancake in the real 99 video. Not even close to Yates. Pathetic actually

Its not close I mean any advantage Ronnie may have in biceps/triceps size gets utterly crushed in every aspect of this pose , Ronnie 99 looks like he's 6 weeks out compared to Dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Personally I feel Ronnie's size advantage and lack of injuries at his best trumps Dorian's hardness.  Just my opinion.

What size advantage? 03 ? he's still down conditioning , balance and density !

[Iceman1981]

Dorian's arms are far far less of a liability than Ronnie's calves. For one, Ronnie's calves suck far far worse than Dorian's arms. Secondly, Ronnie's calves are visible in every fucking pose! The short bicep only hurts Yates in the front double biceps.

First of all yates had small biceps to begin with, then he tore his left bicep which made his arm worse, so that cancels out your Coleman calves excuse.

[pobrecito]

Personally I feel Ronnie's size advantage and lack of injuries at his best trumps Dorian's hardness.  Just my opinion.

Your opinion has been proven to be one of the absolute fucking dumbest on this whole site. You are the same person that said Jay Cutler had a better rear lat spread that Yates, better calves than Yates, you said Yates was nothing special from the front despite having the best front lat spread, side triceps, and ab/thigh of any man over 260lbs. 

[Iceman1981]

i posted it.

i posted it to prove my point about the fake pics.

everything else related to the 99 olympia match what is on youtube - vhs, dvd, pictures, etc.

the only that doestn match is the google clip where anyone can tell from the quality of the video that it aint real.  

let me know if you need me to post both links to prove my fucking point again.  

you can post all the links you want, but still doesn't prove anything. And I am talking about the pre judging individual routine from that video source.

[IceCold]

you can post all the links you want, but still doesn't prove anything. And I am talking about the pre judging individual routine from that video source.

it isnt even that good.

another example of the discrepencies of the videos.

ronnie's complexion looks totally different in the prejudging and the night show. 

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie's side chest >>> Dorian's side chest

[Iceman1981]

it isnt even that good.

another example of the discrepencies of the videos.

ronnie's complexion looks totally different in the prejudging and the night show. 

It isn't even that good? Then why is it clearer, sharper and better quality?

[Iceman1981]

Ronnie's side chest >>> Dorian's side chest

Where's dorian in the side chest? Either dorian is not there or I can't see his "lack" of side chest.

[pobrecito]

It isn't even that good? Then why is it clearer, sharper and better quality?

I have the 99 video, and it looks nothing like the one on Google. Someone definitely messed with, deliberately or not, the contrast and brightness levels, becuase the video on Youtube Ronnie looks softer than a pancake.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie's side chest >>> Dorian's side chest

agreed.

and this also disproves the whole "dorian easily beat flex but ronnie barely did" argument too.

As I said, Ronnie 99, as shown in shots like that, would have dominated 93 flex just as easily as dorian did.

and that is only ONE pose.

 

[IceCold]

when dorian competed and you read what the other guys said, they never thought they could actually beat dorian.

the said the judging criteria needed to change.

those same guys, with the same judging criteria and same judges, actually thought they could beat ronnie.
dillet, kevin, flex, shawn, etc.

(if have to post the quotes that will be ignored by hulkster, etc. when reality sets in, then so be it).  

also, the conditioning of flex, shawn, dillet, nasser, etc. were at an all time high when they competed against dorian.  they knew they had to be at their best if they stood a chance for 2nd place.

once, he retired, they got much worse.  they were no longer motivated to beat some mo they dominated countless times, if he was mr. olympia or not.  

yes, they got older, but ronnie got better as he got older.  

also, they thought they didnt even have to work as hard to beat ronnie, but with dorian they knew they had to work harder then ever.