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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20350 on: January 12, 2007, 01:52:57 PM »
Color difference?

yes, but that is not the issue. I can post a million pics and screencaps of dorian with difference colour too. this has already been pointed out  (but apparently ignored) :-\

its the quality and resolution difference that tells us that the right pic is the real one.

my video confirms this too.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20351 on: January 12, 2007, 01:57:38 PM »
yeah, what 'great' conditioning... ::)


appearance is everything in this sport.

being dry doesn't help you if you are smooth, not vascular, and unseperated from the front :-\

The sad part is you believe this thats the sad part , vascular is just nonsense period and unseparated? Dorian destrotes Ronnie in separation of the whole midsection this includes the abdominals , serattus , intercostals and obliques , this is separation from the front , Ronnie is already down the whole midsection thats a big area ( especially on Dorian  ;) ) his quads are clearly separated with the exception of great upper quad separation but Ronnie's thigh rod isn't separated so again what are you working with? nothing , how about separation of the inner & outter heads of the calves? Hmmmmmm? how about separation of the triceps? Hulkster the more you type the more we learn just how little you know

Study these pics learn what separtion is if you need help feel free to ask.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20352 on: January 12, 2007, 01:57:59 PM »
2D biceps:

Vs. 3D biceps:


WTF are u talking about?
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20353 on: January 12, 2007, 01:58:59 PM »
yes, but that is not the issue. I can post a million pics and screencaps of dorian with difference colour too. this has already been pointed out  (but apparently ignored) :-\

its the quality and resolution difference that tells us that the right pic is the real one.

my video confirms this too.

There is a noticeable difference between the picture & the screencaps as well

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20354 on: January 12, 2007, 02:02:18 PM »
WTF are u talking about?

LOL

its amazing how dumb some of the dorian nuthuggers are.

I mean, one of them is going on about "2D vs 3D" biceps -WTF?

the other is going on about how videos have been doctored to add in detail, veins and striations... ::)

and their leader, ND, goes on about how dorian's side head triceps is more detailed, ignoring the fact that ronnie's pecs, hams, glutes, delts, chest, biceps and quads all have far more detail than dorian's... ::)

what a bunch :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20355 on: January 12, 2007, 02:04:31 PM »
LOL

its amazing how dumb some of the dorian nuthuggers are.

I mean, one of them is going on about "2D vs 3D" biceps -WTF?

the other is going on about how videos have been doctored to add in detail, veins and striations... ::)

and their leader, ND, goes on about how dorian's side head triceps is more detailed, ignoring the fact that ronnie's pecs, hams, glutes, delts, chest, biceps and quads all have far more detail than dorian's... ::)

what a bunch :-\

Its so easy to prove you wrong  ;) now its obvious who has more detail in their triceps

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20356 on: January 12, 2007, 02:06:05 PM »
Dorian shames Ronnie in tricep shape , separation , hardness and conditioning

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20357 on: January 12, 2007, 02:08:32 PM »
Pick a year Dorian's triceps and side triceps shot is simply better

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20358 on: January 12, 2007, 02:12:10 PM »
ha ha ha, I guess Ronnie could magically alter the size of his triceps. ::)




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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20359 on: January 12, 2007, 02:13:07 PM »
Pick a year Dorian's triceps and side triceps shot is simply better

Is anyone doubting that?

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« Reply #20360 on: January 12, 2007, 02:14:06 PM »
Pick a year Dorian's triceps and side triceps shot is simply better

pic a year Dorian's biceps, triceps, delts, pecs, and quads looked better than Ronnie's.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20361 on: January 12, 2007, 02:16:37 PM »
There is a noticeable difference between the picture & the screencaps as well

yes but this is probably true for ANY screencap of ANYONE at ANY contest.

it doesn't mean that the video that they were taken from is doctored, fake or altered.

it simply means that screencaps will look DIFFERENT than photo media. Nothing more. Different. Not necessarily better or worse. Just different:

just look:

What Icehole cannot understand is that taking a capture from a video is not going to look exactly the same as a magazine reporter's pic from the same contest. It just doesn't work that way.

never has.

never will.


I suppose he is going to say that the 93 olympia video must be fake too? ::)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20362 on: January 12, 2007, 02:17:16 PM »
ha ha ha, I guess Ronnie could magically alter the size of his triceps. ::)





Coleman's tricep is good and has striations, but not as big as yates but I don't see any striations in his, no one is doubting that, but it's some of the stuff the yates fans say is what puzzles me.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20363 on: January 12, 2007, 02:20:18 PM »
ha ha ha, I guess Ronnie could magically alter the size of his triceps. ::)





Different angle genius  ;) and it doesn't matter either way Dorian still has better triceps

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20364 on: January 12, 2007, 02:23:10 PM »
Different angle genius  ;) and it doesn't matter either way Dorian still has better triceps

yes he did.

and he had better abs. and calves.

but thats it.

so thats....lets see....about 15% of the body..

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20365 on: January 12, 2007, 02:25:07 PM »
Different angle genius and it doesn't matter either way Dorian still has better triceps

no shit, dumbass. I was waiting for you to say that. You fell right into my trap. Why the hell are you comparing a pic of Dorian's triceps from the side where you can see the whole thing to a shot of Ronnie's triceps taken from a horrible angle? ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20366 on: January 12, 2007, 02:26:26 PM »
pic a year Dorian's biceps, triceps, delts, pecs, and quads looked better than Ronnie's.

Lets entertain your nonsense that Ronnie does have ' better ' parts it doesn't help his whole and he's still down balance , conditioning and density , so whats the sense of having bigger pecs if they're not as dense or hard condition wise , its like Sergio who had tremendous shape & size but conditioning killed him , whats the sense of having a much narrower midsection if its devoid of outstanding detail , separation and development? whats the sense of having amazing quads but they're sitting on underdeveloped calves? whats the sense of having outstanding biceps and triceps when they're paired up with unproportionate forearms ?

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20367 on: January 12, 2007, 02:28:05 PM »
the dorian side will say anything, even going as far as claiming fake videos and doctored pics, to make dorian seem better.

how pathetic that they have to go that low..

that in and of itself tells you that this debate is over.

the fact that they are so badly defeated that they have to cry "fake and doctored" footage speaks volumes about how much better Ronnie was.

it really does.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20368 on: January 12, 2007, 02:30:16 PM »
no shit, dumbass. I was waiting for you to say that. You fell right into my trap. Why the hell are you comparing a pic of Dorian's triceps from the side where you can see the whole thing to a shot of Ronnie's triceps taken from a horrible angle? ;)

WOW I feel into the almighty Neo's trap what am I to do?  ::) don't break your arm patting yourself on the back kid  ;) its doesn't matter what angle he's fully flexed in that shot and its a close up of his tricep and it still sucks and you still have nothing  ;) keep trying kid .

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20369 on: January 12, 2007, 02:30:17 PM »
Lets entertain your nonsense that Ronnie does have ' better ' parts it doesn't help his whole and he's still down balance , conditioning and density , so whats the sense of having bigger pecs if they're not as dense or hard condition wise , its like Sergio who had tremendous shape & size but conditioning killed him , whats the sense of having a much narrower midsection if its devoid of outstanding detail , separation and development? whats the sense of having amazing quads but they're sitting on underdeveloped calves? whats the sense of having outstanding biceps and triceps when they're paired up with unproportionate forearms ?

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.


whats the sense in having an upper body when Flea Labrada owns you?


hahaha barrel upper body with twigs. balanced my white ass :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20370 on: January 12, 2007, 02:32:27 PM »
whats the sense in having an upper body when Flea Labrada owns you?


hahaha barrel upper body with twigs. balanced my white ass :-\

Yawn strawman designed to make you feel good about your stupidity  ;)

Julian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia

There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.


Oh yes he got ' owned ' in 92 lmfao

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20371 on: January 12, 2007, 02:34:26 PM »
Lets entertain your nonsense that Ronnie does have ' better ' parts it doesn't help his whole and he's still down balance , conditioning and density , so whats the sense of having bigger pecs if they're not as dense or hard condition wise , its like Sergio who had tremendous shape & size but conditioning killed him , whats the sense of having a much narrower midsection if its devoid of outstanding detail , separation and development? whats the sense of having amazing quads but they're sitting on underdeveloped calves? whats the sense of having outstanding biceps and triceps when they're paired up with unproportionate forearms?

your nonsense has already been dealt with, little boy. Ronnie and Dorian both had balance issues. Ronnie's calves were overpowered by his massive quads, and Dorian's arms were too small for his giant midsection. In my opinion, Dorian had even worse symmetry. In order for his limbs to be in proportion to his barrel torso, he would need 24" arms and 38" thighs. Ronnie's main imbalances were his forearms and calves. These arguably represent less of a symmetrical liability than entire arms and legs too small. However, I am being generous by saying that Dorian and Ronnie were tied in balance.  

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The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized as these comparisons will help the judge to decide which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and definition.

Ronnie has superior bulk and definition, and ties in balance. This leaves only density for Dorian. Therefore, Ronnie wins 2 to 1 out of the judging criteria. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20372 on: January 12, 2007, 02:35:01 PM »
the dorian side will say anything, even going as far as claiming fake videos and doctored pics, to make dorian seem better.

how pathetic that they have to go that low..

that in and of itself tells you that this debate is over.

the fact that they are so badly defeated that they have to cry "fake and doctored" footage speaks volumes about how much better Ronnie was.

it really does.


Hulkster I'm still waiting for the Ronnie pics that beat this  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20373 on: January 12, 2007, 02:43:28 PM »
So stop bytching if he never looked like that on stage you goof. whata guy.

  No, he didn't look like that onstage; he looked better! This is what your dumbass doese't uderstand! On stage, he was in full colors, at 3% bodyfat, dehydrated, with oil applied to him and ideal lighting! ;) Get it? I don't need to defend Dorian's side chest shot, because he won it with straight-firsts scores from all judges!

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #20374 on: January 12, 2007, 02:47:03 PM »
your nonsense has already been dealt with. Ronnie and Dorian both had balance issues. Ronnie's calves were overpowered by his massive quads, and Dorian's arms were too small for his giant midsection. In my opinion, Dorian had even worse symmetry. In order for his limbs to be in proportion to his barrel torso, he would need 24" arms and 38" thighs. Ronnie's main imbalances were his forearms and calves. These arguably represent less of a symmetrical liability than entire arms and legs. However, I am being generous by saying that Dorian and Ronnie were tied in balance. 

Ronnie has superior bulk and definition, and ties in balance. This leaves only density for Dorian. Therefore, Ronnie wins 2 to 1 out of the judging criteria. ;)

Wrong ! at his best Dorian has ZERO balance issues and Dorian's arms at his best where HUGE in certain angles they don't look so but they were you're another delusional fool who thinks they know what they're talking about

Ronnie's balance issues

lightweights calves
Superheavyweights quads
overdeveloped glutes that stick out past his hips and can be seen from the front
Superheavyweights biceps/triceps
lightweights forearms
overdeveloped front & side deltoids
Superheavyweight biceps/triceps are bigger than his deltoids in the rear double biceps pose

His balance sucks period you'll never be able to counter that period , Dorian himself when interveiwed on PBW when asked if Ronnie could beat him outright said he had better balance & conditioning , you nutthuggers will cling to the part where he said the judges would probably pick Ronnie but gloss over the facts like balance & proportion as well as conditioning because it contradicts your claims

Ronnie doesn't have superior bulk thats pure fantasy he's 3 pounds lighter and one inch taller you're a fool to argue otherwise , great fucking logic lol Ronnie weighs less but he's actually bigger lol just like he's the same size in 01 as 99 lol despite being 13 pounds lighter lol

Ronnie's conditioning especially in 99 is NO on par with Dorian how you can make the claim he's better not equal better is indicitive of your ignorance and foolishness , I'd be more than willing to admit Ronnie may have come close to Yates in conditioning & dryness in 98 and 01 but those are the only two occasions

Density no contest

So you're like Hulkster you're delusional and wrong I can back up my claims and you speculate on yours , but once again keep trying , but you will never be able to counter this

The comparisons of the compulsory poses cannot be overemphasized
as these comparisons will help the judge to decide
which competitor has the superior physique from the standpoint of
muscular bulk, balanced development, muscular density and
definition.