Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

as usual, you post this crap and then reality bites you in the ass:

flex, looking thin and soft from head to toe as compared to Ronnie:

yet, ND thinks the superclose scoring was accurate

the man's delusions about Ronnie know no bounds.

Ha Ha Ha Ha continued meltdown the judges scores are ONLY right when they favor Ronnie lol what a tool , the judges are wrong , the scoring is wrong , the fans are wrong , the writers are wrong , firsthand accounts are wrong , and Hulkster is ' right ' he he

[Hulkster]

I don't have to justify anything

oh yes you do:

 

[Hulkster]

Ha Ha Ha Ha continued meltdown the judges scores are ONLY right when they favor Ronnie lol what a tool , the judges are wrong , the scoring is wrong , the fans are wrong , the writers are wrong , firsthand accounts are wrong , and Hulkster is ' right ' he he

still avoiding...

and we are all still waiting...

[NarcissisticDeity]

repspond to my posts.

stop avoiding them and justify the 3 point difference with reality.

we are all waiting.

We're all waiting? keep waiting the ONLY difference between Flex beating Ronnie has hamstrings & glutes if he had those Ronnie wouldn't have won in 98 , Flex routinely beat Ronnie despite all of his ' flaws ' etc this brings back my original point that conditioning is one of the bigger factors in a close contest .

[NarcissisticDeity]

Here is a quote from Flex Sep 1996 on Flexs' loss to Ronnie at the Canadian Pro

Having said that , its still a surprise Wheeler lost the show : his SUPERIOR STRUCTURE and posing , especially on the rear double biceps , rear latspread and side chest appeared to have pushed him over the top.the judges however , were quite stringent with the less-than-perfect Wheeler which was namely his hams and glutes


Ronnie usually only beat Flex when Flex was off namely hams/glutes

[Hulkster]

keep waiting the ONLY difference between Flex beating Ronnie has hamstrings & glutes if he had those Ronnie wouldn't have won in 98

yes, its the only differnce .

all the oil and softness (and thin/narrow back) of flex doesn't matter

God you are stupid.

you have been caught and you can't get out of it.


justify the scoring. you seem so confident of how close it was.

lets hear why.

saying " I don't have to justify anything" is just pathetic because we can all see that you are wrong and have been called out on it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flex on the Olympia 1998

Flex Wheeler

It's true I didn't quite duplicate my condition at the Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. if I'd been able to do that , I would have won EASILY !!


Easily !

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, its the only differnce .

all the oil and softness (and thin/narrow back) of flex doesn't matter

God you are stupid.

you have been caught and you can't get out of it.


justify the scoring. you seem so confident of how close it was.

lets hear why.

saying " I don't have to justify anything" is just pathetic because we can all see that you are wrong and have been called out on it.

Yawn tired old rant same lame excuses , this sums up the general consensus

quote Flex magazine Jan 1999

When Ronnie is 100% , Flex has to be 100% to prevail. On October 10 , 1998 , Flex wasn't and Ronnie was.

[Hulkster]

gee how rare.

ND has made a statement that has no truth, has been called out on it, shown tons of proof showing otherwise..

and when asked to justfiy his statement,

he says "I don't have to justify anything" and starts posting magazine quotes.

 

Can anyone believe this guy?

[NarcissisticDeity]

gee how rare.

ND has made a statement that has no truth, has been called out on it, shown tons of proof showing otherwise..

and when asked to justfiy his statement,

he says "I don't have to justify anything" and starts posting magazine quotes.

 

Can anyone believe this guy?

I made a statement with no truth? retard the contest was 32/35 thats the TRUTH , the truth was it was a close contest thats the truth , the truth was Ronnie would have lost period to a dead-on Flex Wheeler , you want the truth YOU can't handle the truth lol

Hulkster knows more than everyone combined lol what a loser .

[Hulkster]

still waiting for some shots from the contest ND.

you can't produce any because it should never have been that close.

Flex was soft and oil filled compared to Ronnie.

and his back was thin and narrow.

and yet you keep going on with your quotes as if they mean something.

how soon you forget: the political momentum that flex had back then means NOTHING now.

now, its reality and nothing more:

Why can't you use the shots posted and explain for all of us how the scoring was justified?

we are all still waiting...

[NeoSeminole]

gee how rare.

ND has made a statement that has no truth, has been called out on it, shown tons of proof showing otherwise..

and when asked to justfiy his statement,

he says "I don't have to justify anything" and starts posting magazine quotes.

Can anyone believe this guy?

that's ND's retarded "logic" for you. He's incapable of any creative thought. Instead, he relies on quotes and numbers from other people to defend his position.

[Hulkster]

that's ND's retarded "logic" for you. He's incapable of any creative thought. Instead, he relies on quotes and numbers from other people to defend his position.

exactly.

anyone with any brains who actually believed their own opinion could take some simple shots from the contest and explain why their opinion is valid.

ND is not capable of this.

he just rhymes off other people's opinions and says "I don't have to justify anything"

 

what a complete waste of space.

please tell us ND, how the ONLY difference between Ronnie and Flex in 98 was the glutes and hams.

go ahead:

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

still waiting for some shots from the contest ND.

you can't produce any because it should never have been that close.

Flex was soft and oil filled compared to Ronnie.

and his back was thin and narrow.

and yet you keep going on with your quotes as if they mean something.

how soon you forget: the political momentum that flex had back then means NOTHING now.

now, its reality and nothing more:

Why can't you use the shots posted and explain for all of us how the scoring was justified?

we are all still waiting...

Listen Flex's back was always thin & narrow compared to Ronnie depending on the year his calves were ' oil filled ' and he stilled fucking managed to beat Ronnie more times than Ronnie beat him , how is this possible?  explain that genius , Flex beat Ronnie 9 times and Ronnie beat Flex 7

Flex always got the best of Ronnie and when he was beaten it was because Flex was OFF and Ronnie was on , you're argument like your Yates' one is weak and pathetic , Ronnie is a welfare verison of Flex a cheap imitation Flex crushes Ronnie in aesthetics & shape , muscle roundness and fullness conditioning set these two apart and Ronnie was lucky to win in 1998 damn lucky he was on and Flex was off , just like you bitch about Jay beating Ronnie was no big deal because he didn't beat peak-Ronnie well the same can be said for Ronnie beating Flex , he didn't beat a peak-Flex so its ' no big deal ' according to your logic 

And further more if there was a ' political movement ' behind Flex he would gave WON in 98 spare me the bull-shit kid , the more you type the more you expose yourself as a complete ignorant of competitive bodybuilding

[NarcissisticDeity]

that's ND's retarded "logic" for you. He's incapable of any creative thought. Instead, he relies on quotes and numbers from other people to defend his position.

Oh for a LONG time now I've said that Dorian would crush Ronnie in the side chest & side tri much to your dismay and objection and low & behold Shawn Ray confirms exactly what I said , this was a ' creative thought ' I had a long time before I stumbled across this quote

Shawn ray Ronnie’s side chest leaves a lot to be desired when compared to people who can actually hit it right like Dexter and Jay. His side triceps shot is not one of the best in the business and he got exposed because of it


Just like my ' creative thought ' about Ronnie NOT being as hard or dry in 99/00 as he was in 98 and low & behold it was confirmed by an eye witness AFTER-THE-FACT

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .

Just like my ' creative thought ' about Dorian being better balanced and low & behold on PBW months & months after I made that claim Dorian confirmed it saying he has better conditioning & BALANCE than Ronnie 

I make the claims and you guys bitch & moan and then the best part is Pros and eye witnesses CONFIRM what I've always maintained , so your opinion on me having no ' creative thought ' is just as wrong and ignorant as your critiques on Dorian-V-Ronnie

man you just got fucking owned 

[Hulkster]

shawn might confirm it.

too bad real life doesn't. LOL

[Hulkster]

Oh for a LONG time now I've said that Dorian would crush Ronnie in the side chest & side tri much to your dismay and objection and low & behold Shawn Ray confirms exactly what I said , this was a ' creative thought ' I had a long time before I stumbled across this quote

Shawn ray Ronnie’s side chest leaves a lot to be desired when compared to people who can actually hit it right like Dexter and Jay. His side triceps shot is not one of the best in the business and he got exposed because of it


Just like my ' creative thought ' about Ronnie NOT being as hard or dry in 99/00 as he was in 98 and low & behold it was confirmed by an eye witness AFTER-THE-FACT

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .

Just like my ' creative thought ' about Dorian being better balanced and low & behold on PBW months & months after I made that claim Dorian confirmed it saying he has better conditioning & BALANCE than Ronnie 

I make the claims and you guys bitch & moan and then the best part is Pros and eye witnesses CONFIRM what I've always maintained , so your opinion on me having no ' creative thought ' is just as wrong and ignorant as your critiques on Dorian-V-Ronnie

man you just got fucking owned 

LOL once again, you look to quotes to confirm whereas we look to reality.

there is a big difference...

[NarcissisticDeity]

Another ' creative thiught ' I had was Dorian has a better back than Ronnie and I proved it with pictures and it was confirmed by Samir Bannout and Ronnie-fucking-Coleman himself none the less AFTER I made the claims of course 

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates

Ronnie has the second best back behind the great Dorian Yates

[NarcissisticDeity]

shawn might confirm it.

too bad real life doesn't. LOL

Thank you for admitting you're fucking owned 

[NarcissisticDeity]

LOL once again, you look to quotes to confirm whereas we look to reality.

there is a big difference...

What an interesting paradox , you're saying you look at reality by look at pictures and I'm quoting someone who was there lol in reality you're ignorant 

[Hulkster]

What an interesting paradox , you're saying you look at reality by look at pictures and I'm quoting someone who was there lol in reality you're ignorant 

if what that person who was there said was true the pic would tell a much different story.

but they don't because opinions can often be wrong, and motivated by other factors.

for example, Kevin levrone was there in 2000 competing against ronnie.

if you watch the video and look at the pics, Kevin was easily beaten THAT YEAR. maybe not in 2002, but in 2000, he was owned.

and yet he, who was there live and in person, says that he beat Ronnie and that Ronnie should have been second.

Are we to believe Kevin above all the pics and video's?

I hardly think so:



When are you going learn that when pics and video tell a much different story than someone's 'opinion' it is very likely that their opinion is wrong...

[NarcissisticDeity]

if what that person who was there said was true the pic would tell a much different story.

but they don't because opinions can often be wrong, and motivated by other factors.

for example, Kevin levrone was there in 2000 competing against ronnie.

if you watch the video and look at the pics, Kevin was easily beaten THAT YEAR. maybe not in 2002, but in 2000, he was owned.

and yet he, who was there live and in person, says that he beat Ronnie and that Ronnie should have been second.

Are we to believe Kevin above all the pics and video's?

I hardly think so:


When are you going learn that when pics and video tell a much different story than someone's 'opinion' it is very likely that their opinion is wrong...

Ah put Kevins comment into context , he was talking about from aesthetics standpoint and Ronnie's gut hanging all over the place but the bottom line is you owned yourself by saying you look at reality and the person who was live & in person is wrong its a ignorant statement from an ignorant person .

[Hulkster]

Ah put Kevins comment into context , he was talking about from aesthetics standpoint and Ronnie's gut hanging all over the place but the bottom line is you owned yourself by saying you look at reality and the person who was live & in person is wrong its a ignorant statement from an ignorant person .

yes, you are really backing up your claims..

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, you are really backing up your claims..

I did back up my original claims with first hand accounts that validate exactly what I've said all along and have you verified your claims? that the judges were wrong and Hulkster is right? lol that  your opinion doesn't superceed their , you know the guys with 30 years of experience

[Hulkster]

I did back up my original claims with first hand accounts that validate exactly what I've said all along and have you verified your claims? that the judges were wrong and Hulkster is right? lol that  your opinion doesn't superceed their , you know the guys with 30 years of experience

but you are missing the whole point:

when people's OPINION is NOT VALIDATED BY REAL LIFE you know that there is a problem.

Can you even post ONE pic from the contest showing how close it was?

because every single shot from the contest shows the SAME THING: Ronnie making Flex look soft and puffy.

You don't seem to understand this basic fact:

without Flex's momentum, the score sheet would have not been nearly as close:

Are you honestly saying that Flex looks close to Ronnie here?

Are you?: