Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[IceCold]

Here is 95 and 96. First two pics are from 95. Other two are from 96. Two different colors. He is clearly darker in one pic than the other. Now what was your argument? You can't win. If what you say is to be taken serious, then this whole thread with all of the pics posted are "fake" as you say.

nice try.

the second 'darker' pic is from 93 i believe.  it looks like dorian's left arm has a full bicep vs. anything past 94.

also, his hair is longer in the 2nd pic.

the 2 pics from 96 are SLIGHTLY different unlike ronnie in your google clip where HE IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ANY OTHER MEDIA SOURCE RELATED TO THE 99 OLYMPIA. 

[IceCold]

Let's see what Icecold says now, lol. It's just pathetic that he actually talking about this.

one pic is scanned from a magazine from 1991.

the other pic is from a screencap.

of course there are going to be differences when 2 different sources take the picture.

however, there is still some similarity between them.

ronnie on google has no similarities from anything else.

[IceCold]

the funny thing is that if coleman looked even worse than the 'real' pics, and all of us posted those pics (from google assuming that coleman looked like shit) you would be saying the same thing - they arent a true repsentation of that contest because no other source matches the clip on google.  you're only bitching bc that's your only source you have that can compete with yates.

[Shockwave]

I said a long time ago, it was a poor quality movie cap, and it looked like the contrast had been turned way up. Regardless, the reall 99 vid on youtube is different.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you have to admit that pic looks photoshoped. Since when does a relaxed arm look bigger than flexed?

I scanned that pic from Flex magazine's coverage of the 1995 Mr Olympia , Hulkster & pumpster went on and on about how that was fake etc ...until I posted the pic as it sat in the magazine all the sudden they became very quiet lol

Now Hulkster is bitching about the Dorian side and how they use fake pics typical-hypocritical Coleman fan , he cried pages & pages ago the same I love owning him.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Here is 95 and 96. First two pics are from 95. Other two are from 96. Two different colors. He is clearly darker in one pic than the other. Now what was your argument? You can't win. If what you say is to be taken serious, then this whole thread with all of the pics posted are "fake" as you say.

1993 Mr Olympia I capture this shot.

[IceCold]

hulkster and iceman try to prove their pathetic points and always think they have outsmarted everyone

1) hulkster thinks that the google video is 2 years old.  its not even 4 months old.

dont think by now, 8 years since, we would have seen that clip before.

all the orignal and real footgage is from 99 and this pic mysteriously shows up 8 years later - eventhough- no one has seen it before displaying "the best ever".  surely, with that claim, we would have seen it before.


2) iceman tries to provide a picture from 95 saying how its different from the other 95 pics, but fails to realize its from 93 based on the yates bicep, the hair is clearly different, and ignoring the source (ND) who posted it stating the date. 


nice try fellas, but back to realilty.

reality like every so called advantage you claim ronnie has, he had in 1992-97 and the closest he got to yates was sixth place. 

[NeoSeminole]

hulkster and iceman try to prove their pathetic points and always think they have outsmarted everyone

maybe b/c they did outsmart you.

1) hulkster thinks that the google video is 2 years old.  its not even 4 months old.

I believe he corrected himself. You must have missed that part.

dont think by now, 8 years since, we would have seen that clip before.

all the orignal and real footgage is from 99 and this pic mysteriously shows up 8 years later - eventhough- no one has seen it before displaying "the best ever".  surely, with that claim, we would have seen it before.

the Dorian footage from 93 took 14 yrs to show up. What's your point?

2) iceman tries to provide a picture from 95 saying how its different from the other 95 pics, but fails to realize its from 93 based on the yates bicep, the hair is clearly different, and ignoring the source (ND) who posted it stating the date.

the background matches 95.

[IceCold]

maybe b/c they did outsmart you.

I believe he corrected himself. You must have missed that part.

the Dorian footage from 93 took 14 yrs to show up. What's your point?

the background matches 95.

he did correct himself but he still thought he could outsmart everyone.

the dorian footage did not take 14 years.

it was released on dvd not that long ago, but my point was, if these coleman shots were legit, why would they just show up now and not when the originals were published??

the background is slightly different than 95.

but more importantly, yates has 2 biceps in that shot.

in 95 he would only have 1 as he tore it in 94.

see, told ya so. 

thanks anyways. 

[NeoSeminole]

he did correct himself but he still thought he could outsmart everyone.

then you knowingly lied about him. You claimed he said the video is 2 yrs old and didn't mention that he corrected himself. This is known as intellectual dishonesty.

the dorian footage did not take 14 years.

then how long did it take? Considering it was filmed in 93, why wasn't it available on the Internet 7 or 8 yrs ago?

it was released on dvd not that long ago, but my point was, if these coleman shots were legit, why would they just show up now and not when the originals were published??

it's irrelevant whether the video was recently released on DVD. I'm sure they had VHS tapes back in 93. To parody your argument, if the Dorian screen caps are legit then why are they just showing up now instead of when the originals were published?

the background is slightly different than 95.

oh really?

[Iceman1981]

nice try.

the second 'darker' pic is from 93 i believe.  it looks like dorian's left arm has a full bicep vs. anything past 94.

also, his hair is longer in the 2nd pic.

the 2 pics from 96 are SLIGHTLY different unlike ronnie in your google clip where HE IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ANY OTHER MEDIA SOURCE RELATED TO THE 99 OLYMPIA. 

My bad. I t doesn't matter here is a pic from 95 that is a different color

[pobrecito]

quote Tom Platz:

"Dorian epitomizes everything bodybuilding is all about. He has the kind of physique, when he walks out in the lineup in front of the judges, they look up, drop their pencils in disbelief and exclaim, 'What the hell is that?!' When someone says he is 'freaky', Dorian replies, 'Thank you very much.' He has a show-stopping, blockbusting, iron-forged physique. His kind of physique is the reason we all started lifting weights in the first place. Dorian Yates is a soft-spoken, well-educated athlete who will lead the sport eloquently into the future"

[Iceman1981]

1993 Mr Olympia I capture this shot.

My bad. I posted another pic.

[Iceman1981]

hulkster and iceman try to prove their pathetic points and always think they have outsmarted everyone

1) hulkster thinks that the google video is 2 years old.  its not even 4 months old.

dont think by now, 8 years since, we would have seen that clip before.

all the orignal and real footgage is from 99 and this pic mysteriously shows up 8 years later - eventhough- no one has seen it before displaying "the best ever".  surely, with that claim, we would have seen it before.


2) iceman tries to provide a picture from 95 saying how its different from the other 95 pics, but fails to realize its from 93 based on the yates bicep, the hair is clearly different, and ignoring the source (ND) who posted it stating the date. 


nice try fellas, but back to realilty.

reality like every so called advantage you claim ronnie has, he had in 1992-97 and the closest he got to yates was sixth place. 

Notice you're the onlyone arguing about this "fake" stuff. Keep posting, it still won't make a difference. The pics have been posted and still will be posted buddy boy. Deal with it.

[pobrecito]

quote Mike Mentzer

"In the late seventies and early eighties, Joe Weider and I made occasional references in our respective writings to the ultimate PHYSIQUE - an abstract projection of a male physique characterized by a staggering level of muscle development and blinding, razor-sharp definition. Well, it is no longer merely an abstraction. In 1992, Dorian Yates achieved a physical condition that represents the conquertization, or living embodiment, of the ultimate physique.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This is such a great shot

[NarcissisticDeity]

quote Mike Mentzer

"In the late seventies and early eighties, Joe Weider and I made occasional references in our respective writings to the ultimate PHYSIQUE - an abstract projection of a male physique characterized by a staggering level of muscle development and blinding, razor-sharp definition. Well, it is no longer merely an abstraction. In 1992, Dorian Yates achieved a physical condition that represents the conquertization, or living embodiment, of the ultimate physique.

When Mentzer seen these pics he exclaimed that for the first time in his life he was speechless

[pobrecito]

Here are some of Dorian's poundages in the 92 offseason from his log:

decline bench: 440 x 5
smith squat: 560 x 7
standing calf raise: 1400 x 7
reverse row - 425 x 6
db row: 215 x 12
flat bench: 435 x 5

[NarcissisticDeity]

Here are some of Dorian's poundages in the 92 offseason from his log:

decline bench: 440 x 5
smith squat: 560 x 7
standing calf raise: 1400 x 7
reverse row - 425 x 6
db row: 215 x 12
flat bench: 435 x 5

I know he's done as high as 465 in reverse rows

[pobrecito]

I know he's done as high as 465 in reverse rows

Those aren't his highest poundages, just an example of a training week. He notes that he could go much higher in weight, but he refused to sacrafice form. He also notes he had benched over 500lbs for reps.

I fully believe Yates was stronger than Coleman.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Those aren't his highest poundages, just an example of a training week. He notes that he could go much higher in weight, but he refused to sacrafice form. He also notes he had benched over 500lbs for reps.

I fully believe Yates was stronger than Coleman.

I doubt he was stronger than Coleman , on some lifts I'm sure he might be able to come close if he adopted a loser form but  Ronnie strength is insane , but this is bodybuilding not powerlifting

[pobrecito]

I doubt he was stronger than Coleman , on some lifts I'm sure he might be able to come close if he adopted a loser form but  Ronnie strength is insane , but this is bodybuilding not powerlifting

That's my whole point, if Dorian trained with Ronnie's form, or if Ronnie adopted Dorian's form, I believe Dorian would be stronger.

[NeoSeminole]

This is such a great shot

it's a great shot, no doubt, but Ronnie's lat spread is even more impressive.

[pobrecito]

it's a great shot, no doubt, but Ronnie's lat spread is even more impressive.

I don't think so....the main focus of the front lat spread is to showcase the lats, as it is the first thing the judges look for. Nobody's lats were ever as thick, or popped in like Yates' did on the front lat spread. Plus, Yates' whole physique had an excellent flow to it in this pose.

[Hulkster]

ronnie on google has no similarities from anything else.

it is the same as my old VHS copy..

do you want me to send it to you so you will do us all a favor and shut the hell up with these ridiculous accusations?

just because Ronnie 99 was better than Dorian's best does not mean anything was altered/faked/tampered with or any part of some broad, far reaching conspiracy theory.

it just means he was better.

nothing more.