Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

LOL

ronnie is owning dorian in the roadmap department.

actually, dorian's back resembes a map in terms of dimensions - its just as flat!

[Shockwave]

LOL

ronnie is owning dorian in the roadmap department.

actually, dorian's back resembes a map in terms of dimensions - its just as flat!

Haha.
I see you finally gave up on saying Ronnie 99 was just as conditioned as Ronnie 98.
You still can't admit you were wrong. You sad, lonely little man. 

[Hulkster]

You are a fucking moron.
You post 98 shots now, after you argued for months that 99 Ronnie was identical in conditioning... then, oops, proven wrong, better resort to 98 and hope they don't notice.
Wow.

no, I argued that there was virtually no difference.

if ronnie 99 hit the same shot, as seen here from a few days later at the grand prix, under similar lighting THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO DIFFERENCE:

if you guys break out whatever dorian pics (95, 93 or whatever) best show his 'delineation' then the Ronnie side is free to do the SAME.

fair is fair.

something the dorian side has yet to learn...


virtually no difference in hardness

[Hulkster]

Haha.
I see you finally gave up on saying Ronnie 99 was just as conditioned as Ronnie 98.
You still can't admit you were wrong. You sad, lonely little man. 

I just owned you:


virtually no difference:

[delta9mda]

notice how much better a back looks when it has arms...

as i have said, imagine how much better and more complete ron would be with a set of calves.

[Shockwave]

no, I argued that there was virtually no difference.

if ronnie 99 hit the same shot, as seen here from a few days later at the grand prix, under similar lighting THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO DIFFERENCE:

if you guys break out whatever dorian pics (95, 93 or whatever) best show his 'delineation' then the Ronnie side is free to do the SAME.

fair is fair.

something the dorian side has yet to learn...


virtually no difference in hardness

You can't tell shit from that shot, because of the lighting you jackass.
Besides, that's not even the olympia. As you're so fond of saying, he didn't show up on the Olympia stage looking like that.

[Hulkster]

as i have said, imagine how much better and more complete ron would be with a set of calves.

yes, but that doesn't mean that his back is any less good.

dorian's arms have a direct impact on the look of his back.

Ronnie's calves do not.

[Hulkster]

You can't tell shit from that shot, because of the lighting you jackass.
Besides, that's not even the olympia. As you're so fond of saying, he didn't show up on the Olympia stage looking like that.

how do we know?  we do not have a shot of Ronnie 99 at the Olympia doing the same pose.

his condition was obviously almost the same.

so there you have it.

you got owned and I back up my argument yet again.

[Shockwave]

yes, but that doesn't mean that his back is any less good.

dorian's arms have a direct impact on the look of his back.

Ronnie's calves do not.

Oh yea?
Selective criteria?
Arms are attached to limbs, calves are attached to limbs, and shown in every single shot from the rear.
Sorry.

[Shockwave]

how do we know?  we do not have a shot of Ronnie 99 at the Olympia doing the same pose.

his condition was obviously almost the same.

so there you have it.

you got owned and I back up my argument yet again.

Ummm,... no.
Heres your water logged Olympia shot, asshole. Your circular argument isn't going to get you anywhere.

[Shockwave]

how do we know?  we do not have a shot of Ronnie 99 at the Olympia doing the same pose.

his condition was obviously almost the same.

so there you have it.

you got owned and I back up my argument yet again.

I still can't believe you just told everyone you backed up your own argument!?
Haha. What a joke!
His conditioning was obviously the same between 2 different shows, because you say it was?
Wow, you really do live in fantasyland.
Oh btw, his conditioning wasn't the same.
See below.

[Hulkster]

His conditioning was obviously the same between 2 different shows, because you say it was?

no, his conditioning was the same because I have brains and eyes and I know how to use them:

grand prix vs olympia:

[Shockwave]

no, his conditioning was the same because I have brains and eyes and I know how to use them:

grand prix vs olympia:

Uh huh.
Too bad you can't argue with a Zealot, because they see what they want to see.
BTW genius, the final spot to get dry and conditioned is the back.
That's why the shows place such a high priority on the back.
I see two different levels of conditioning.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, his conditioning was the same because I have brains and eyes and I know how to use them:

grand prix vs olympia:

Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007

The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...


You know nothing 

[NarcissisticDeity]

sure he is... the excuses are beginning

dorian up close has no more deliniation than Ronnie and now the excuses start

you want to talk about deliniation?

here you go nuthuggers:

Might match Yates in terms of dryness in 1998 to bad he doesn't in terms of density , detail , balance and size   

[NarcissisticDeity]

99 grand prix V 93/95 Olympia lol say what , say what !

[pobrecito]

No one is arguing that Dorian's BACK was better conditioned.

Dorian's back was BETTER

[pobrecito]

Not bigger.  It depends what you're looking at.  When Ronnie hit a rear lat spread at the 2003 Olympia, that said it all to me.

Personally, I think 2003 is overrated....how can you look at a 98/99 Ronnie and then be impressed with 2003? He was holding far more water, his balance was even worse than before, his overall condition was far off. Bigger is not always better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not bigger.  It depends what you're looking at.  When Ronnie hit a rear lat spread at the 2003 Olympia, that said it all to me.

No bigger VS 2003 you'll get no argument from me , but it's lacking 2003 especially compared to Yates at his best

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's back was BETTER

You're absolutely right it was better and why?

Better traps , why are they better? because they're bigger , denser , drier , show better separation from the respective muscles

Better lats , why are they better ? better sweep depending on the year I'm willing to say width would be a push , density isn't , and Dorian's lower lats show more detail by far and Dorian's lats insert lower near the waist

Better lower back , why is his lower back better? better development of the erector spinae , much better detail overall

Ronnie great back , Dorian the best ever back any questions?


Samir Bannout who had one of the best backs mind you on Cutler 2001

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates


Ronnie Coleman

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.



FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX page 166   (notice how it is post 1999)


"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE.  HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"

[RocketSwitch625]

Ronnie Coleman will never win the battle. It was all over with this post:

I'll be the bigger man and say enough is enough , the board is sick of our ' debates ' obviously neither of us are going to convince each other of our opinions , and we've basically said everything we could , so I say lets end this debate out of respect for others , I say you and I stop directly comparing Ronnie & Dorian and leave well enough alone and let the board have a rest lol the ball is now in your court . 

[Iceman1981]

thanks for prooving me right - again - and solving this issue.

i posted this clip about 40 pages ago to proove to you that the "fake" pics are indeed fake and dont match anything and this is a perfect example of that.  great quality and it isnt anywhere close to the fake pics that you and hulkster have stopped posting bc you have been owned and proven wrong over and over.

over and over and over - similar to yates beating coleman when they competed against each other.

If you look at the video I posted sherlock, you would see that it is the DVD video not the cheap blurry video that was on youtube that you posted. The color is closer to the caps forcedreps posted, so before you claim an owned, think twice. You're a straight up a$$ clown. You should really read posts before you post. Thanks for making yourself look stupid 'again'.

[Iceman1981]

other than slight colour difference and BETTER resolution, there is no difference between the sets of screencaps.

Icehole likes to say that nothing matches the google videos?

well guess what?:

the youtube video does and so does all of forced reps screencaps. And my VHS copy looks pretty damn close to, but of course that depends on which TV I watch it on...

you can't use slight colour differences and say they are fake.

hell, the screencaps look different on this computer monitor compared to my other computer for f**k's sake!

different monitor, slightly different colour/contrast/tint etc. settings.

the DETAIL is what counts:

Icecold tries to prove his point but can't. With what? The video posted matches the Google video and has more footage. What more proof does he want? What a di*k. Some people never learn.

[Iceman1981]

notice the R-E-S-O-L-U-T-I-O-N in the second set of screecaps is BETTER.

neither are FAKE.

They are all morons. They are just looking for an excuse because Coleman walks all over yates in these pics and they can't handle it. Bums.

[Iceman1981]

ANOTHER QUOTE FROM TOP IFBB PRO COMMENTING ON DORIAN'S GREATNESS

FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX page 166   (notice how it is post 1999)


"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE.  HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"


another quote from someone who competes against ronnie coleman.

are you going to ignore it again, like you have every other quote from qualified sources saying you're wrong, you fucking loser.  

A QUOTE FROM THE REIGNING MR. OLYMPIA

Pro Bodybuilding Weekly

"2007 Jan 15 with Jay Cutler

Jay Cutler: “Everyone knows, you know, Ronnie Coleman has the best back ever. I mean he was untouchable in the back.”