ND you are a funny dude, you hark on blanket statements then make three in a row, haha. your so full of shit i dont think you beleive it. listen yates loses the MM to alot of people its a bad pose for him, we wouldnt argue that ronnies ab and thigh is better, your delusional. his left arm in that pic is as smooth as the new smirnoff ice. seriously, i said he lacks detail, namely seperation between the triceps and biceps, along with poorly seperated delts, with no heads showing in the left side, along with little to no striations. his pecs also are less detailed the ronnies in the most muscular. you should be able to see the quads but you cant in that particular pic, his legs bring the house of cards down with little seperation and definition, nor any shape worthy of a great quadricep.