dude i keep this short. lighting is not an argument in favor of EITHER bodybuilder for many extraneous variables you nor i know. it is important to to claim one had better then the other as an argument is dumb, making it moot, i wont comment on it agian as you cant seem to grasp that while its important you cant decipher who had better lighting etc making it a worthless argument
so are you saying that striations are locally gentic, that the striations in dorians chest are somehow a genetic thing programmed into his dna and for some reason not his quads. i think not, the more logical conclusion is that all bodybuilders hold water in particular areas and bf and thus have less seperation adn striations. lee priest never had striations in his quads until recently, i guess his genes turned on. muscle is striated, EVERYONES. no obstruction would show a body full of striations, thus lack of striations shows lack of conditioning of that part. ronnie had striations in his quads that he doesnt now, guess his genes turned off. according to your theory how come some guys gain striations(lee priest,jay etc) they never had, would you chalk it up to conditioning improvment or magical gene expression?
you keep saying lower fat and water but how do you quantify that in terms of conditioning that allows you to say dorian is better conditioned, i wont take your word for it, please tell me how to identify low water and low fat please with regards to the criteria. PLEASE ANSWER YOU ARE AVOIDING THE QUESTION FOR PAGES NOW, IF YOU THINK YOUR WINNING THE ARGUMENT WHY WOULDNT YOU ANSWER A QUESTION UNLESS YOUR WRONG. ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU SAID YOU'VE AVOIDED NONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
how do you quantify less water and fat in terms of conditioning so the judges can try to objectively score it?
dude i keep this short. lighting is not an argument in favor of EITHER bodybuilder for many extraneous variables you nor i know. it is important to to claim one had better then the other as an argument is dumb, making it moot, i wont comment on it agian as you cant seem to grasp that while its important you cant decipher who had better lighting etc making it a worthless argument
The argument isn't who had better lighting , the argument is that in certain lighting situations Dorian's detail can be washed out more so than Ronnie and more so than other bodybuilders who have naturally darker skin who happen to be white , Dorian has fair skin , and I'm not trying to use that as an argument over who had the best lighting its you can't accurately gauge his conditioning know that and the fact he looks better in person than he does it print/film
so are you saying that striations are locally gentic, that the striations in dorians chest are somehow a genetic thing programmed into his dna and for some reason not his quads. i think not, the more logical conclusion is that all bodybuilders hold water in particular areas and bf and thus have less seperation adn striations. lee priest never had striations in his quads until recently, i guess his genes turned on. muscle is striated, EVERYONES. no obstruction would show a body full of striations, thus lack of striations shows lack of conditioning of that part. ronnie had striations in his quads that he doesnt now, guess his genes turned off. according to your theory how come some guys gain striations(lee priest,jay etc) they never had, would you chalk it up to conditioning improvment or magical gene expression?
I'm saying exactly that , striations are genetic hence why some people have many more than others with equal conditioning , guys like Andreas Munzer and Hamdullah Aykutlu had more than anyone and I would venture to say they were equal in terms of conditioning with Ronnoe 2001 , yet Ronnie's triceps . and rectus femoris were NOT striated and Ronnie's arms are usually bone dry even when he's holding water , and striations once again are NOT a great indicator of overall conditioning , you can have striations and still be holding water a nice film of water over the striations and you bring up a good point Ronnie did have striations on his quads and now he doesn't which means what? he's carrying more water & fat in them , its like split biceps NOT everyone has them its genetic , and glutes are one of the very last places to get striated and they are a relatively ' new ' addition to the sport
you keep saying lower fat and water but how do you quantify that in terms of conditioning that allows you to say dorian is better conditioned, i wont take your word for it, please tell me how to identify low water and low fat please with regards to the criteria. PLEASE ANSWER YOU ARE AVOIDING THE QUESTION FOR PAGES NOW, IF YOU THINK YOUR WINNING THE ARGUMENT WHY WOULDNT YOU ANSWER A QUESTION UNLESS YOUR WRONG. ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU SAID YOU'VE AVOIDED NONE OF MY QUESTIONS.
how do you quantify less water and fat in terms of conditioning so the judges can try to objectively score it?You don't have to take my word for it I have several eye witness accounts to his conditioning and his complete , how do you spot low bodyfat and water? easy the ' thiness ' of skin at the 1995 Mr Olympia Peter McGough said " Dorian has skin like tissue paper " Mike Mattarazzo " Does Dorian even have skin ? " Dorian's conditioning has been described as " skin shrinkwrapped around bare muscle " and the obvious is no fat or water obscuring the muscle development from being seen to its fullest , Dorian's conditioning is legendary .
