Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[IceCold]

I see, superior quads, arms and chest on Coleman. Delts is debatable. Midsection you can't really tell but we know it's probably Yates, although Coleman's was pretty good that year. Yates' quads in particular really don't match up. His teardrops are good but the overall mass just isn't there. It shows that he couldn't do real squats.

For me the fact that Coleman's body is riddled with striations and detail, whereas Yates' really isn't in that shot (can you honestly say it is?!), is the deciding factor if we were to somehow discount all the superior muscle groups.

you mean arms in some shots.

coleman has gyno so automatically yates has the better chest.

midsection - not even worth commenting on

coleman's quads are better than dorian's, but yates has better balance in his legs - if that matters.

striations? 

coleman always has had more.  even when he competed against dorian in 92-97.  it got him nowhere - let alone any place closer than 6th to dorian.

jay cutler has even less striations than dorian.

who is the current mr. olympia?

who did jay beat to become the current mr. olympia?

this should show the importance of striations vs. being hard and dry. 

[IceCold]

striations in the chest and triceps
detailed midsection
hamstring hang

this is what a bodybuilder looks like.

no wonder he was so dominant.

no wonder ronnie's best placing against dorian (and his competition which went soooo downhill when they competed against ronnie) was 6th. 

[Iceman1981]

what the hell happened to Ronnie's head there

Elaborate some more. What do you mean?

[Iceman1981]

f**k this thread and f**k you.

lol.

[Iceman1981]

I uploaded the smaller screencaps of the 98 O

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=123765.0

[Iceman1981]

Found these pics of Coleman. I think it's from 02 Olympia. I'm not sure. Anyone know what contest this is from?

[NeoSeminole]

Conditioning is definition its the same thing , conditioning equals = cuts , ripped , shredded , defined , striations , dry , hard etc

wrong, they are not the same thing. The purpose of conditioning is to display better definition.

[NeoSeminole]

Why are you posting that quote? you hate quotes lol quotes are worthless and I posted the quote I don't need excuses you're the one who thinks in 03 his conditioning was in par with 01 I respect Peter opinion but the judge's opinions is the one who counts the most

I posted that quote b/c it's the closest thing we have to a qualified bodybuilding expert comparing Dorian to Ronnie. All your quotes just mention Dorian by himself. Also, I never said that Ronnie's 03 conditioning is the same as 01. I don't know where you got that from.

[NeoSeminole]

Found these pics of Coleman. I think it's from 02 Olympia. I'm not sure. Anyone know what contest this is from?

you are correct; they are from the 02 Mr. Olympia.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wrong, they are not the same thing. The purpose of conditioning is to display better definition.

I'm not wrong you're like the other zealots you're clueless

[NarcissisticDeity]

I posted that quote b/c it's the closest thing we have to a qualified bodybuilding expert comparing Dorian to Ronnie. All your quotes just mention Dorian by himself. Also, I never said that Ronnie's 03 conditioning is the same as 01. I don't know where you got that from.

And you forgot one that directly compares the two 

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

[NeoSeminole]

I'm not wrong you're like the other zealots you're clueless

bwahahahahahahahaha. I even gave you the meaning of "definition" and you still insist that you are right and everyone else is wrong. What a clueless idiot!

[NeoSeminole]

And you forgot one that directly compares the two

Lee Priest

HOW DO YOU FEEL DORIAN WOULD FAIR AGAINST RONNIE COLEMAN NOW?

I think Dorian at his best (1993) would easily beat Ronnie. Dorian might not be as symmetrical as Ronnie, but all over he was more complete and in better condition at his best.

No offense to Lee Priest, but who does Flex hire to write the reviews for bodybuilding contests? Yeah, I thought so. I'd take the word of Peter McGough over Lee Priest.

[NeoSeminole]

Apparently, Peter McGough isn't the only one who echoes those sentiments.

[NarcissisticDeity]

bwahahahahahahahaha. I even gave you the meaning of "definition" and you still insist that you are right and everyone else is wrong. What a clueless idiot!

you gave me the dictionary's meaning of the word  and definition is conditioning , its known as many things , being ripped , dry , hard , shredded , conditioned , etc I am right and you're to stupid to admit you're wrong

Here is an IFBB judge

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

You can't top this kid notice he said HARDER than ever and not more defined than ever ? Gee I wonder why? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

No offense to Lee Priest, but who does Flex hire to write the reviews for bodybuilding contests? Yeah, I thought so. I'd take the word of Peter McGough over Lee Priest.

Of course you have to take McGough's word it it supports you claim , but whats ironic is I have someone who specifically compares Ronnie to Dorian and say Dorian would win with ease and the best part confirms what I've said all along Dorian was better conditioned NOT defined 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Apparently, Peter McGough isn't the only one who echoes those sentiments.

One who is the quote from and where? and two noticed it was posed as a question and NOT a proclamation , so nice try on that one but sorry no go .

[Iceman1981]

Of course you have to take McGough's word it it supports you claim , but whats ironic is I have someone who specifically compares Ronnie to Dorian and say Dorian would win with ease and the best part confirms what I've said all along Dorian was better conditioned NOT defined 

So do I:

   FLEX JAN 1999: MIKE MATARAZZO on RONNIE COLEMAN at the 98 Olympia: “I think this creature from another planet, RONNIE COLEMAN, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten DORIAN YATES. RONNIE has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived. I’m a very hard guy to impress, and I have never been so impressed by a bodybuilder since I saw LEE HANEY. Honestly, RONNIE had muscle bellies and striations jumping out all over the place! Nobody can touch FLEX WHEELER for symmetry-FLEX looks like GOD hand-painted him. So, not to degrade FLEX, but RONNIE COLEMAN is just leaps and bounds above everybody in the sport right now.”

A quote is a quote. Take it for what it's worth.

[NeoSeminole]

you gave me the dictionary's meaning of the word and definition is conditioning , its known as many things , being ripped , dry , hard , shredded , conditioned , etc I am right and you're to stupid to admit you're wrong

what a load of bullshit. I've admitted that I'm wrong several times. If anything, you are too stubborn to put your ego aside. You will argue until you are blue in the face b/c all you care about is being "right" even though many others - including on other forums - have told you that you are wrong. My goal is not to convince you that I'm right. Oh no, you will never admit it in order to save face (just like Suckmyasshole). All I have to do is show beyond reasonable doubt that you are wrong so that anyone else reading this thread can decide for themselves.

Here is an IFBB judge

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

You can't top this kid notice he said HARDER than ever and not more defined than ever ? Gee I wonder why?

ha ha ha, what the f*ck does that have to do with definition? The judge was referring to Dorian's muscular density - NOT his definition.

[NeoSeminole]

A quote is a quote. Take it for what it's worth.

exactly. Honestly, I would rather throw out all quotes and instead rely on visual evidence. The only reason I posted Peter McGough's comment is to beat ND as his own game.

[NarcissisticDeity]

what a load of bullshit. I've admitted that I'm wrong several times. If anything, you are too stubborn to put your ego aside. You will argue until you are blue in the face b/c all you care about is being "right" even though many others - including on other forums - have told you that you are wrong. My goal is not to convince you that I'm right. Oh no, you will never admit it in order to save face (just like Suckmyasshole). All I have to do is show beyond reasonable doubt that you are wrong so that anyone else reading this thread can decide for themselves.

ha ha ha, what the f*ck does that have to do with definition? The judge was referring to Dorian's muscular density - NOT his definition.

I mean you've admitted you were wrong after you took a fucking beating lol I mean you can't deny being wrong even though you tried lol Oh I am right that definition and conditioning are the same thing there is no ego involved , many terms for the same thing , how does one get muscle definition? by losing sq fat & water and in the process they get , ripped , dry indicating one has not water in his body , hard i.e. opposite of soft which indicates one is holding water & fat  and what happens when you're hard ? your muscles are clearly defined , not obscured by water or fat

[NarcissisticDeity]

So do I:

   FLEX JAN 1999: MIKE MATARAZZO on RONNIE COLEMAN at the 98 Olympia: “I think this creature from another planet, RONNIE COLEMAN, is going to be number one for a while. I think that, in the shape he was in, he would have beaten DORIAN YATES. RONNIE has every single attribute it takes to be the greatest bodybuilder who ever lived. I’m a very hard guy to impress, and I have never been so impressed by a bodybuilder since I saw LEE HANEY. Honestly, RONNIE had muscle bellies and striations jumping out all over the place! Nobody can touch FLEX WHEELER for symmetry-FLEX looks like GOD hand-painted him. So, not to degrade FLEX, but RONNIE COLEMAN is just leaps and bounds above everybody in the sport right now.”

A quote is a quote. Take it for what it's worth.

One this has been posted eons ago , old news two key word he THINKS Ronnie would beat Dorian 

and here is one from 03

Flex magazine October 2003 from Mike Matarazzo about Dorian

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: The ultimate warrior. A straight-up no-bulls-t bodybuilder. He backed up everything with his physique. He silenced his critics with action. He bowed out at the end of his career with grace and style. He may go down in history as the greatest bodybuilder of all time.

[pumpster]

hulkster, here is another one .


shockwave
pobrectio
and i am sure there are some others.

these are all people who initially thought coleman was so much better than dorian

Icecold, king of backpeddling and self-serving, arbitrary BB criteria. bwahahahaahah These guys saw Coleman as better because he is, you idiot. Everything else are just excuses to egg you on to greater heights of delusion you self-righteous bowflex-obsessed twit. LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

exactly. Honestly, I would rather throw out all quotes and instead rely on visual evidence. The only reason I posted Peter McGough's comment is to beat ND as his own game.

One you didn't beat me at my own game and why? One I posted the quote lol and two I posted the quote an eternity ago as well , I don't fear people's opinions you guys do hence why every pro Dorian quote has been dismissed by you guys and typical hypocrites you are will only use them when the serve your purpose and I'm not like that hence why I posed the quote and why I post pics both good and bad

[NarcissisticDeity]

Icecold, king of backpeddling and self-serving, arbitrary BB criteria. bwahahahaahah These guys saw Coleman as better because he is, you idiot. Everything else are just excuses to egg you on to greater heights of delusion you self-righteous bowflex-obsessed twit. LOL

You're the idiot who was upset when I posted the Bow Flex pic , you cried like a little bitch because you were exposed lol the best part is you did it yourself lol now go run back to the training board and give advice on power rods you loser