Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

No he doesn't have better definition give me a break and you actually had the balls to type he has better definition in his calves compared to Dorian? are you out of your fucking-mind? seriously ? are you? this is like his hamstrings having striations on them? what the f**k do you know? you have balls ever bitching about anything sucky posts ever ! why is it Ronnie fans are retarded? why? Hulkster with Dorian being the most overrated bodybuilder of all time and Dorian's conditioning is a myth , to you with Ronnie having better better definition in his calves? than Dorian? and Ronnie 2001 being the same size as 99 despite being 13 pounds lighter , so usmoke claiming Ronnie 2003 has better conditioning than Yates , you people are all simple.

yawn, all I read was "I actually have nothing to refute you with so I'm just going to pretend that you're crazy."

I already listed all the areas that Ronnie has better definition. Even if we give Dorian calves (I'm being generous here), Ronnie still has better overall definition.

I'm still laughing at Ronnie having anything better in he calf department V Dorian , insanely stupid statement lol this will haunt you

sure

[NarcissisticDeity]

Peter McGough Flex Jan 2004

At 287 pounds, on a 5'11" structure, Coleman presented an accumulation of muscle we have not seen before. Personally, I still feel his best-ever form was the harder and more detailed 247 pounds with which he won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.

Stop using 2003 as the gold standard for Ronnie's conditioning its not , notice he mentioned he wasn't as hard in 03 i.e. he was soft i.e. holding water , that washed out his detail this is very apparent so how can he have superior conditioning if he's holding water and lacks detail? I'll tell you he can't and the closest Ronnie came to Dorian's type of bone dry , rick hard conditioning was 1998/2001

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, all I read was "I actually have nothing to refute you with so I'm just going to pretend that you're crazy."

I already listed all the areas that Ronnie has better definition. Even if we give Dorian calves (I'm being generous here), Ronnie still has better overall definition.

sure

Moron I did refute you're stupidity with direct comparisons and I don't have to pretend you're crazy lol you proved it everytime you type 

I already listed all the areas that Ronnie has better definition. Even if we give Dorian calves (I'm being generous here), Ronnie still has better overall definition.

sure

hands down the most retarded and absurd post and comment you ever made ! bar none !! this statement will haunt you lol Hulkster tried that nonsense that Yates having less ' detail ' in his calves than Ronnie in 1999 and he doesn't dare make that mistake again lol Neo seeing you drove off the edge I'll allow you to crawl back up to your senses and I won't dignify that comment with an honsest reply.

[NeoSeminole]

ha ha ha ha, apparently ND doesn't know how to subtract.

and Ronnie 2001 being the same size as 99 despite being 13 pounds lighter

Peter McGough Flex Jan 2004

"Personally, I still feel his best-ever form was the harder and more detailed 247 pounds with which he won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic."

so you admit that Ronnie was 257 lbs in 99 and weighed 247 lbs at the 01 ASC, yet somehow you end up with a 13 lbs difference?

[NarcissisticDeity]

ha ha ha ha, apparently ND doesn't know how to subtract.

so you admit that Ronnie was 257 lbs in 99 and weighed 247 lbs at the 01 ASC, yet somehow you end up with a 13 lbs difference?

Again I can post quotes saying he was 244 pounds 

do I need to?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Flex August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

[NeoSeminole]

Moron I did refute you're stupidity with direct comparisons

you did? lmao

hands down the most retarded and absurd post and comment you ever made ! bar none !! this statement will haunt you lol Hulkster tried that nonsense that Yates having less ' detail ' in his calves than Ronnie in 1999 and he doesn't dare make that mistake again lol Neo seeing you drove off the edge I'll allow you to crawl back up to your senses and I won't dignify that comment with an honsest reply.

how delightfully entertaining to watch you squirm under pressure when proven wrong. By all means, you're more than welcome to show me where Dorian has more definition in his calves than Ronnie.

[NeoSeminole]

Flex August 2005

"[Ronnie] was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds.

keep digging yourself a hole. You should realize by now that you're no match for me. That quote is from Peter McGough, whom you also quoted here.

Peter McGough Flex Jan 2004

"Personally, I still feel his best-ever form was the harder and more detailed 247 pounds with which he won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic."

so your own source contradicts himself. I also have another quote from him saying that Ronnie was 247 lbs at the 01 ASC.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you did?
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how delightfully entertaining to watch you squirm under pressure when proven wrong. By all means, you're more than welcome to show me where Dorian has more definition in his calves than Ronnie.

First of all thats NOT the best example of Dorian's quads hence WHY you posted it , the pic I posted clearly shows exactly what I said it did and you're so desperate to try and get one over on me you're grasping at straws , please explain how I'm proven wrong , please explain in detail where and how Ronnie has better ' definition ' in the areas I listed , you're getting extremely desperate with your recent posts lol I watched Hulkster go through this and many others it happens out of pure frustration , especially when you're ice skating up-hill 

[NarcissisticDeity]

keep digging yourself a hole. You should realize by now that you're no match for me. That quote is from Peter McGough, whom you also quoted here.

so your own source contradicts himself. I also have another quote from him saying that Ronnie was 247 lbs at the 01 ASC.

I am honestly laughing my mother-fucking-ass-off at what you just typed , I swear to you I am lol I'm no match for Neo who claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian

And it gets better ( for me NOT for you lol ) I already commented on having two different quotes I've already said Peter has said 244 and 247 lol I absolutely LOVE when you think you have me trapped in something and it blows up in your face lol man this is exactly why I stay in this thread

[IceCold]

This holds a lot of water considering he has trouble formulating sentences.

holds a lot of water like someone being a training forum moderator and expert in judging physiques but yet stays at home in the basement on his bowflex.  never setting foot in anything close to resembling a gym.

[NarcissisticDeity]

holds a lot of water like someone being a training forum moderator and expert in judging physiques but yet stays at home in the basement on his bowflex.  never setting foot in anything close to resembling a gym.

That boogles the mind lol he's giving training advice and he trains mainly on a Bow Flex

[NeoSeminole]

First of all thats NOT the best example of Dorian's quads hence WHY you posted it , the pic I posted clearly shows exactly what I said it did and you're so desperate to try and get one over on me you're grasping at straws , please explain how I'm proven wrong , please explain in detail where and how Ronnie has better ' definition ' in the areas I listed , you're getting extremely desperate with your recent posts lol I watched Hulkster go through this and many others it happens out of pure frustration , especially when you're ice skating up-hill

wrong, it's one of the best examples of Dorian's quads. He likes to pose with one leg rotated outward to hide his poor quad definition. I wanted to compare both Ronnie and Dorian straight on. The shot I used for Dorian is from a photoshoot, which as you know makes bodybuilders look better than onstage.

[Hulkster]

but the oil the calves argument has NO MERIT whatsoever for the following reasons:

1. Ronnie's calves have always been smoothish since long before the days of synthol use.

2. they never really ballooned up in size and looked puffy and misshaped like real oiled calves do.

just because Ronnie's calves suck does not mean they are oil injected.

Exactly what evidence is there for this?

[Hulkster]

ronnie's quads make dorian's look like smooth blobs from the front.

[pumpster]

holds a lot of water like someone being a training forum moderator and expert in judging physiques but yet stays at home in the basement on his bowflex.  never setting foot in anything close to resembling a gym.

In the basement, whilst living in an apartment. You are a pathetic, pump-obsessed blockhead. bwaahahahahahaha

[NarcissisticDeity]

wrong, it's one of the best examples of Dorian's quads. He likes to pose with one leg rotated outward to hide his poor quad definition. I wanted to compare both Ronnie and Dorian straight on. The shot I used for Dorian is from a photoshoot, which as you know makes bodybuilders look better than onstage.

I'll be the judge of what pic of dorian is best to use , you're not exactly looking for fair and that pic is okay but NOT the best representation , anyway Ronnie still only has an advantage in separation of the rectus femoris and quad sweep Yates is equal and in some areas better

[NarcissisticDeity]

but the oil the calves argument has NO MERIT whatsoever for the following reasons:

1. Ronnie's calves have always been smoothish since long before the days of synthol use.

2. they never really ballooned up in size and looked puffy and misshaped like real oiled calves do.

just because Ronnie's calves suck does not mean they are oil injected.

Exactly what evidence is there for this?

Bull shit it has NO merit , it has more merit now than ever thanks to Nasser

[NarcissisticDeity]

ronnie's quads make dorian's look like smooth blobs from the front.

No they don't his quads ONLY show better separation of the retus femoris and thats it

[NeoSeminole]

I am honestly laughing my mother-fucking-ass-off at what you just typed , I swear to you I am lol I'm no match for Neo who claims Ronnie has better calves than Dorian

bwahahaha, is that all you got? I never said that Ronnie has better calves than Dorian. If strawmans are the only way you can argue with me, then you are an even easier opponent than I thought.

And it gets better ( for me NOT for you lol ) I already commented on having two different quotes I've already said Peter has said 244 and 247 lol I absolutely LOVE when you think you have me trapped in something and it blows up in your face lol man this is exactly why I stay in this thread

hmm, let's see...

you claim that 01 ASC Ronnie was 13 lbs lighter than in 99 b/c Peter McGough said so. Then you contradict yourself by posting a quote from him that list Ronnie's weight as 247 lbs. After I call you out on your shitty math skills, you say that it blew up in my face? ha ha ha ha. Whatever you say. Somehow you proved me wrong b/c you contradicted yourself. Only a moron could follow your logic.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look at Dorian's whole legs in this shot he's showing equal separation of the Vastus medialis and Vastus lateralis , Ronnie clearly has a better separation in his rectus femoris , however Dorian shows a much better separation of the Satorius and Tensor fasciae latae , and his Satorius shows a much better separation between the Adductor mangus than Ronnie , and like the rest of his physique he's bone dry and rock hard

[pobrecito]

Ronnie was less muscular at the 01ASC than the 99 Olympia. Even more advantage for Dorian in muscularity.

As well, that Front double biceps of Dorian from 93 ND posting blows away Coleman has ever presented.

[pumpster]

Ronnie was less muscular at the 01ASC than the 99 Olympia. Even more advantage for Dorian in muscularity.

As well, that Front double biceps of Dorian from 93 ND posting blows away Coleman has ever presented.

Pubes contradicting himself yet again, after saying that Coleman '99 rules over Yates excepting side-tri and ab shots. 

[NeoSeminole]

I'll be the judge of what pic of dorian is best to use , you're not exactly looking for fair and that pic is okay but NOT the best representation , anyway Ronnie still only has an advantage in separation of the rectus femoris and quad sweep Yates is equal and in some areas better

bwahahahaha, you're getting desperate. I love how ND and co. argue that some pics of Dorian (including studio and gym shots) aren't good, yet magically every pic of Ronnie in existence is somehow perfect.

[Hulkster]

As well, that Front double biceps of Dorian from 93 ND posting blows away Coleman has ever presented.

no, it doesn't..