Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Necrosis]

its funny when you ask nd about why dorian looks smooth in particular bodyparts he calls you ignorant. haha. ronnie won 8 olympias but everything negative ND says about him is true, because he knows all.

dorians arms, delts, and quads were smooth compared to ronnie.

[Hulkster]

Again your opinion is worthless because it's based on ignorance ,

no, its based on evidence.

you are asking to believe that Yates has some magical hocus pocus property of his muscles that no one else had that makes him look smooth on camera and yet he was actually ripped in real life...

gimme a break..

we are not that stupid.

 

[Necrosis]

no, its based on evidence.

you are asking to believe that Yates has some magical hocus pocus property of his muscles that no one else had that makes him look smooth on camera and yet he was actually ripped in real life...

gimme a break..

we are not that stupid.

 

no you will accept it. its true because peter said it. but you should dis regard everything peters says positively about ronnie.

[Necrosis]

  I never argued that separations is one of the criterias of conditioning; my beef was that you tried to infer bodyfat and water levels of two diferent bodybuilders by how many separations they have, which is nonsensical. If we define conditioning as bodyfat and water levels, then there's no way to say that Coleman is better conditioned because he has more separations, which is what you said. If conditioning is a visual property, then I agree with you that Coleman has better conditioning based on that, but does he have lower fat and water levels? Not at all.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

conditioning is deciphered from some external criteria-yes

bf and water levels at low levels constitutes conditioning-yes

sep,cuts,striations and hardness increase as bf ans water decrease in everyone-yes

therefore the obsevable criteria are the above since they are the by-products of low water and bf.

thus judges must infer who is more conditioned based on the above variables.

nothing i said is wrong. its actually common sense. the person who is harder is considered better conditioned. and is the more striated, the more cut.

a guy at 20% and 5% will have different levels of the above factors, with the guy at 5 being more seperated,cut,harder etc. this is common sense also.

because we know they correlate positively we can infer the level of water and bf from sep,cuts etc. also, we could predict that the person at 3% bf will have more of the above criteria then a person at 20. this prediction is true. the variability does not matter, its not an exact sport. they can and do infer conditioning which is an imaginary thing to begin with on the above factors.

[RocketSwitch625]

no, its based on evidence.

you are asking to believe that Yates has some magical hocus pocus property of his muscles that no one else had that makes him look smooth on camera and yet he was actually ripped in real life...

gimme a break..

we are not that stupid.

 

Who is smooth now? LOL

How to make yourself look stupid.

[Necrosis]

probably the lowest quality pic of ronnie coleman ever witnessed. its blurry as hell. this is what they are reduced too.

[RocketSwitch625]

probably the lowest quality pic of ronnie coleman ever witnessed. its blurry as hell. this is what they are reduced too.

Yeah it's a low quality blurry pic but he is still being outclassed by Yates and you know it.

[Necrosis]

Yeah it's a low quality blurry pic but he is still being outclassed by Yates and you know it.

yes he's being outclassed because its a blurry pic retard. post a fair comparison and ill make a decision. for one thats not a mandatory, is that the rear back crunch?

[RocketSwitch625]

yes he's being outclassed because its a blurry pic retard. post a fair comparison and ill make a decision. for one thats not a mandatory, is that the rear back crunch?

PWN3D

[Hulkster]

yes he's being outclassed because its a blurry pic retard. post a fair comparison and ill make a decision. for one thats not a mandatory, is that the rear back crunch?

well, dorian does kill ronnie in the lower back anyway. Its the other 98% of the body that dorian loses out on...

[pobrecito]

well, dorian does kill ronnie in the lower back anyway. Its the other 98% of the body that dorian loses out on...

Delusional.

Even MattC said Dorian has a better back. hahahahahahahah

[Hulkster]

Delusional.

Even MattC said Dorian has a better back. hahahahahahahah

and you argued for hundreds of pages that Ronnie 99 was the greatest ever. hahahahahahaha

[Necrosis]

PWN3D

for one thats a black and white pic, and two ronnie is still anhilating yates. he looks harder has a thicker lower back, smaller waist and better taper.

[pobrecito]

and you argued for hundreds of pages that Ronnie 99 was the greatest ever. hahahahahahaha

Lame. This is your only excuse left.

You know Dorian has a better back   ....even the biggest Ronnie guy ever, MattC, admitted it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

probably the lowest quality pic of ronnie coleman ever witnessed. its blurry as hell. this is what they are reduced too.

It doesn't matter what pic you use he still cannot compete , Ronnie is smooth , look pics don't lie 

[NarcissisticDeity]

well, dorian does kill ronnie in the lower back anyway. Its the other 98% of the body that dorian loses out on...

Again I've repeatedly asked you to post pictures of Ronnie thats are comparable to these and you simply cannot , compared to Dorian , Ronnie's back is SMOOTH   

[pobrecito]

Dorian's back there is just fuggin insane

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian's back there is just fuggin insane

The best back ever

Ronnie Coleman

DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

Samir Bannout

Jay Cutler blows the other bodybuilders away with the crisp detail of his muscularity from top to bottom. He has superior calves, hamstrings and glutes. His back is detailed and big, but it does not match up well against Ronnie, who has the second-best back in the history of bodybuilding behind the great Dorian Yates


 IFBB judge Roger Schwab " Yates is simply in another league. When he turns his back and flexes , he's the only man onstage. "

Ellington Darden, Ph.D. " best back - Dorian Yates

IFBB Judge Roger Schwab 1994 Mr Olympia

" Best Back - Yates. He has too much back to be compared. "

FROM MARKUS RUHL

October 2000, FLEX page 166   (notice how it is post 1999)


"DORIAN YATES HAD THE BEST BACK IN THE HISTORY OF BODYBUILDING.  HIS LAT SPREAD WAS UNBELIEVABLE.  HIS SIZE, MASS, AND CONDITIONING WERE PERFECT,"


Team Flex 1999 picked the best back of the Y2K mind you they could have picked Ronnie 1999 but didn't

Best Back - Dorian Yates

[NarcissisticDeity]

I mean this is a complete back

[NarcissisticDeity]

no, its based on evidence.

you are asking to believe that Yates has some magical hocus pocus property of his muscles that no one else had that makes him look smooth on camera and yet he was actually ripped in real life...

gimme a break..

we are not that stupid.

 

No its based on your OPINION and your opinion is NOT evidence and its not an educated guess , its junk based on bias and preference you've proven this time and time again on this thread and there is nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as you're willing to learn , and you're stuck on stupid and like it

[Hulkster]

nice proportion there dorian...twigs on a barrel LOL

and you say I am ignorant...

[NarcissisticDeity]

nice proportion there dorian...twigs on a barrel LOL

and you say I am ignorant...

Oh yes you are ignorant and why? because you're judging Dorian using Ronnie's arm size as the template , very ignorant , Dorian's arms were fine and in proportion with the rest of his physique , lets see what IFBB judge Bev Francis has to say about Dorian's proportion & symmetry 


Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

[Hulkster]

I mean this is a complete back

 you mean an  incomplete back because of shitty arms..



this is a complete back:

[NarcissisticDeity]

you mean an  incomplete back because of shitty arms..



this is a complete back:

What a very stupid claim , lol Dorian has less of a back because his arms are smaller than Ronnie? great logic and what part of ' No weaknesses ' didn't you grasp from an IFBB judge?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Incomplete back double bicep shot because of his missing calves  , Arnold what do you think about people who Flex their calves and nothing happens? I agree Arnold , I agree.