Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

and 01 ASC Ronnie has advantages that Dorian doesn't. What's your point? If we compare Ronnie to 93 Dorian, then Ronnie has better conditioning, better definition, better shape, better taper, better fullness and comparable muscularity. If we compare Ronnie to 95 Dorian, then Ronnie has equal conditioning, better definition, better shape, better taper, better fullness and equal symmetry.

Ronnie doesn't have better conditioning maybe comparable but NOT better and definition is conditioning , so stop typing the same thing , and shape? in some parts yes in others no , taper  fullness? no way 99 he was full 01 he was NOT muscularity is falls under the conditioning umbrella

Dorian has a clear advantage in muscular balance , muscular bulk , muscular density and conditioning may be a push

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie doesn't have better conditioning maybe comparable but NOT better and definition is conditioning , so stop typing the same thing , and shape? in some parts yes in others no , taper fullness? no way 99 he was full 01 he was NOT muscularity is falls under the conditioning umbrella

01 ASC Ronnie has better conditioning than 93 Dorian. Sorry, but this is not up for debate. Ronnie also had superior definition from top to bottom. Everything on 01 ASC Ronnie was shredded. 93 Dorian, on the other hand, had smooth arms, delts and quads. Ronnie also had better overall shape and fullness. You can nitpick which muscles Dorian had better shape in, but in the end Ronnie would still win overall. Muscularity is a push for Dorian b/c there was only a 10 lbs difference and Ronnie has smaller joints and better taper, which creates the illusion of greater size. All accounts of 01 ASC Ronnie say he looked big and full.

[Necrosis]

Ronnie doesn't have better conditioning maybe comparable but NOT better and definition is conditioning , so stop typing the same thing , and shape? in some parts yes in others no , taper  fullness? no way 99 he was full 01 he was NOT muscularity is falls under the conditioning umbrella

Dorian has a clear advantage in muscular balance , muscular bulk , muscular density and conditioning may be a push

does dorians quads, arms and delts look shredded to you or something. inform us of what your seeing that we are not.

the vid from 93, he looked smallish, and his legs and arms were tiny.

[Hulkster]

for Dorian to be better conditioned that Ronnie at the AC, his lower back and abs would have to cover his entire body...

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

01 ASC Ronnie has better conditioning than 93 Dorian. Sorry, but this is not up for debate. Ronnie also had superior definition from top to bottom. Everything on 01 ASC Ronnie was shredded. 93 Dorian, on the other hand, had smooth arms, delts and quads. Ronnie also had better overall shape and fullness. You can nitpick which muscles Dorian had better shape in, but in the end Ronnie would still win overall. Muscularity is a push for Dorian b/c there was only a 10 lbs difference and Ronnie has smaller joints and better taper, which creates the illusion of greater size. All accounts of 01 ASC Ronnie say he looked big and full.

See I respond to you and try to listen to your point of view until you type nonsense like Ronnie had better conditioning if anything it would be equal but to say its NOT up for debate is just nonsense , I won't try and convince you otherwise because you believe this but its NOT reality

EVERYTHING in Dorian 1993/1995 was shredded Dorian was sans water in both years he was bone dry & rock hard and detailed from head to toe I've posted many quote by many eyewitnesses to back up what I say

muscularity isn't muscular bulk , muscularity falls under the umbrella of conditioning NOT SIZE and wow Ronnie has smaller joints so he appears much bigger  Dorian IS BIGGER and a 247 pound Ronnie isn't going to make him look small especially when a 275 pound Dillett and a 318 pound Ferrigno couldn't and spare me its only 10 pounds nonsense , look at the difference just 7 pounds made in Ronnie fromk 1998 to 1999 , 10 pounds on a man one inch shorter is a big difference and its a big advantage in Dorian's favor

Muscular bulk - Advantage Dorian , period .
Muscular balance - Advantage Dorian , period.
Muscular Density - Advantage Dorian
Conditioning - perhaps a push

Dorian is bigger , better balanced and denser and can pose better , give Ronnie the symmetry round , Dorian would win the muscularity round and both posing rounds , Dorian has to many strengths

[NarcissisticDeity]

does dorians quads, arms and delts look shredded to you or something. inform us of what your seeing that we are not.

the vid from 93, he looked smallish, and his legs and arms were tiny.

They look tiny to YOU stop using Ronnie has the template to gauge Dorian

[pumpster]

Muscular bulk - Advantage Dorian , period .
Muscular balance - Advantage Dorian , period.
Muscular Density - Advantage Dorian
Conditioning - perhaps a push

Dorian is bigger , better balanced and denser and can pose better , give Ronnie the symmetry round , Dorian would win the muscularity round and both posing rounds , Dorian has to many strengths

Muscular bulk Yates while even Flea's owning him? This is DESPERATE. Don't let the details get in the way of facts.

[NarcissisticDeity]

for Dorian to be better conditioned that Ronnie at the AC, his lower back and abs would have to cover his entire body...

 

I'm surprised you continue to cling to this logic , Dorian was the biggest and best conditioned athlete , I dare you to find me ONE SINGLE quote that says Dorian at his best was holding water I dare you , I'll delete my account if you could 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Muscular bulk Yates while even Flea's owning him? Don't let the details get in the way of facts.

Sure Labrada is 176 pounds and Dorian is 242 pounds thats muscular bulk , please learn what it is before you type , and Dorian 1996 was 257 pounds , compared to Shawn's 205 and Ronnie's water logged 250 pounds , conditioned muscular bulk , learn what it means before you type or you run the risk of me correcting you for the millionth time 

[Necrosis]

dude this isnt a quote contest, the pics show that ronnie was much better. is smaller joints, and rounder bellies also made him look bigger. the 93 dorian looks tiny compared to ronnie, seriously. watch the vid, his arms look small, his clavicle is average, delts less the capped and legs arent close in size.

isnt it about apperance, ronnie looked bigger.

[NarcissisticDeity]

dude this isnt a quote contest, the pics show that ronnie was much better. is smaller joints, and rounder bellies also made him look bigger. the 93 dorian looks tiny compared to ronnie, seriously. watch the vid, his arms look small, his clavicle is average, delts less the capped and legs arent close in size.

isnt it about apperance, ronnie looked bigger.

Sure its NOT a quote contest when you are proven wrong lol and its NOT about being like Ronnie to beat Ronnie , Dorian beat plenty of guys with bigger arms and legs , does that mean anything? NO

[IceCold]

dude this isnt a quote contest, the pics show that ronnie was much better. is smaller joints, and rounder bellies also made him look bigger. the 93 dorian looks tiny compared to ronnie, seriously. watch the vid, his arms look small, his clavicle is average, delts less the capped and legs arent close in size.

isnt it about apperance, ronnie looked bigger.

you seem to forget the fact that EVERY advantage you claim ronnie has, he had when he and dorian competed against each other from the years of 92-97.

how did ronnie's small joints, round muscle bellies, taper, etc. fare against dorian?

exactly.  

[NarcissisticDeity]

Why do you rely so much on quotes? They only show someones opinion.

I don't rely on quotes but they come in handy when I say something and I can have it later confirmed and firsthand quotes carry more weight than someone sitting at their PC

[NarcissisticDeity]

you seem to forget the fact that EVERY advantage you claim ronnie has, he had when he and dorian competed against each other from the years of 92-97.

how did ronnie's small joints, round muscle bellies, taper, etc. fare against dorian?

exactly. 

Exactly what was Ronnie missing? it wasn't size 1996 he was 250 pounds and in 1997 he was 255 pounds , the ONLY thing Ronnie was missing was conditioning , and his conditioning in those years was very good , just NOT Yates-like

[IceCold]

Why do you rely so much on quotes? They only show someones opinion.

thank you.

that's the point.

everyone has a different opinion.

the quotes serve as a way to verfiy and back up one's opinion.

surely, you cant just rely on hulkster's, iceman, etc. 'expert' opinions.  

he has no credentials.  neither do i, that's why i will make a point and quote somebody credible - a judge, former competitor, etc.

and of course, someone who works out on a bowflex and acts like a training guru and expert on judging has to be ingored.  no one can be that stupid thinking that using a bowflex qualifies them as anything other than an expert on making excuses to avoid a gym.

[IceCold]

dude this isnt a quote contest, the pics show that ronnie was much better. is smaller joints, and rounder bellies also made him look bigger. the 93 dorian looks tiny compared to ronnie, seriously. watch the vid, his arms look small, his clavicle is average, delts less the capped and legs arent close in size.

isnt it about apperance, ronnie looked bigger.

another quote for ya.

in 93, despite winning his first 3 shows with perfect scores, flex wheeler called yates "untouchable".

in 99, flex didnt say shit about ronnie.  in fact he turned his back to the crowd displaying his disagreement with the judging.

flex was onstage against both guys.

ARE YOU A MORE CREDIBLE SOUCRE THAN FLEX WHEELER?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie just looks better to me, sorry if I hurt your feelings. 

Its okay you think Ronnie looks better , but it doesn't make it fact. 

[IceCold]

Its okay you think Ronnie looks better , but it doesn't make it fact. 

or if you think yates was overrated.

 


ps.  spare us the relaxed photos from 94 and the 96 english grand prix, pumpster.  instead why dont you post some pics of yourself and show us the magic from the bowflex. 

[Hulkster]

another quote for ya.

in 93, despite winning his first 3 shows with perfect scores, flex wheeler called yates "untouchable".

in 99, flex didnt say shit about ronnie.  in fact he turned his back to the crowd displaying his disagreement with the judging.

flex was onstage against both guys.

ARE YOU A MORE CREDIBLE SOUCRE THAN FLEX WHEELER?

this has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.

of course Flex didn't praise Ronnie in 99.

Ronnie beat flex and took first place and an extra 50 grand!

duh!

Remember: when dorian beat flex Flex was a humble rookie.

When Ronnie beat Flex, flex was a super successful (and arrogant) pro who felt that the title had his name on it.  It didn't matter if Ronnie 99 killed him. He still felt he was the deserving winner no matter what.

[Hulkster]

the quotes serve as a way to verfiy and back up one's opinion.

or disprove them when reality does not support the quote in question...

[NarcissisticDeity]

this has to be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read.

of course Flex didn't praise Ronnie in 99.

Ronnie beat flex and took first place and an extra 50 grand!

duh!

Remember: when dorian beat flex Flex was a humble rookie.

When Ronnie beat Flex, flex was a super successful (and arrogant) pro who felt that the title had his name on it.  It didn't matter if Ronnie 99 killed him. He still felt he was the deserving winner no matter what.

Humble Rookie lol he knew as well as everyone Dorian was untouchable , Dorian at his best owned bodybuilding

[RocketSwitch625]

I've never seen such shocking pwnage in all my life.

Yates is also pwning Coleman on hams in this comparison.

[NarcissisticDeity]

or disprove them when reality does not support the quote in question...

Yawn everyone is lying because your opinion got crushed lol I've always maintained that Dorian Yates at his best had outstanding balance & proportion and had no weak bodyparts and I confirmed this after the fact using an IFBB judge none the less , my point is proven and yours is NOT , I'm right , you're wrong

[NarcissisticDeity]

I've never seen such shocking pwnage in all my life.

Yates is also pwning Coleman on hams in this comparison.

He is and I mean Dorian's back shows much better separation between the traps , teres , infraspinatus , lats , and erector spinae , Ronnie has an advantage in arms size but that only fucks up his balance same with the great quad sweep and small undeveloped calves , although his soleus looks pretty good

[RocketSwitch625]

his soleus looks pretty good

Is that the sole of his foot? It's pale white compared to Dorian's. LOL

When Coleman was spray painted black as a baby his hands and feet were stuck to the floor.

Hulkster knows it makes sense.

Pwned. LOL