Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[Hulkster]

interesting




 Ronnie is not flexing fully in the pic used in the dorian comparison.

the nuthuggers will never admit this, but look at the hams, the back, everything.

its clear to anyone who can see these two pics.

[pobrecito]

Flexing or not, Ronnie is still smashed in that comparison .....then take into consideration Dorian is a rock hard 260lbs to Ronnie's 244-47lbs and it's lights out Ronnie Hope this helps

[NarcissisticDeity]

interesting




 Ronnie is not flexing fully in the pic used in the dorian comparison.

the nuthuggers will never admit this, but look at the hams, the back, everything.

its clear to anyone who can see these two pics.

Hey the excuses are flowing like wine here on GetBig , entertaining your opinion it doesn't matter Dorian still shows better separation in his whole back , he still has better balance & density not to mention size

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian 1996 easily beating Ronnie 2001 , Dorian showing much better separation of the traps , teres , infraspinatus , lats , etector spinae , triceps side & long heads , he pushes in separation of the three heads of the deltoids , Dorian is in his hotel room owning Ronnie lol imagine onstage? jesus

[suckmymuscle]

no it doesn't, you dipshit. You can't see anything b/c the pic is so small. Taper is not the difference between the width of the clavicles and the waist. It's determined by the width of the lats in relation to the waist. Think about what you are saying. The width of the clavicles and the waist are the same when viewed from the front and back. Ronnie destroys Flex in taper from the back. However, you are claiming that some magically property allows Flex to manipulate his bone structure and have better taper from the front.

  Incorrect, turd. Taper in the pic I posted is a function of delt-to-waist ratio, so go fuck yourself. An by the way, the size of the pic does nothing to hinder it's veracity in showing whether Flex has better or worse taper than Ronnie. The pic is fine, and that's final. If you don't like it, who cares?

Dorian's arms were never 21" except maybe in the offseason. If you want to use an offseason measurement, then Ronnie's arms are 24", which is still more than 2" larger than Dorian's. I doubt that Dorian's arms ever exceeded 20.5" onstage. Ronnie's were 23" at the 03 Mr. Olympia. 23 - 20.5 = 2.5, which is greater than 2.

  No, Dorian's arms were truly 21" onstage at the 1995 Olympia. Ronnie at his biggest had only a 2" size advantage over Dorian, and at the 1999 Olympia the difference was only one inch - which proves that the difference in size was mostly biceps and that their triceps had roughly the same size.

I don't have to reply to you. I choose to b/c it suits me. The last thing I'm worried about is trying to save face in front of a bunch of strangers online. Furthermore, I don't ignore your replies unless you type marathon posts.

  Just like when you said that no one reads my posts, and then you posted several of my quotes from many of them. I don't know if it's easier for me to own you or for you to own yourself. And since I know that you are, indeed, reading my long posts, the fact that you don't reply to them speaks volumes about your capacity to argue with me. You are so fucking out of your league arguing with me that it's not even funny anymore. This thread has become boring. I need a challenge. I think that I'll try to get into an argument with The Deity because he's the only one who's even on my league intellectually.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

I'll leave you with some words of wisdom from Suckmyasshole himself.

  Idiot. I was refering to the 2003 Coleman. You're fucking insane if you think that the 1995 Dorian lacked separations, especially when compard to that grotesque somatostatin-C experience that was Coleman in his 2003 form.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

01 ASC Ronnie has better conditioning than 93 Dorian. Sorry, but this is not up for debate.

  No one had better conditioning than the 1993 Dorian. He was at 3% bodyfat and dehydrated to the bone. Separations are not the only thing that increases when you drop bodyfat and water, retard. The muscles also look harder when you drop water, and Dorian's muscles were harder than the 2001 ASC Coleman. If we analysed their Sodium/Potassium balance, you'd see that Dorian exhibited the higher level of dehydration; he was more conditioned. If we define conditioning as level of bodyfat and water, then Dorian in 1993 represented the ultimate.

Ronnie also had superior definition from top to bottom. Everything on 01 ASC Ronnie was shredded. 93 Dorian, on the other hand, had smooth arms, delts and quads.

  Again, don't equate definition with conditioning, because the two things merely correlate. As for Dorian having smooth arms, delts and quads, I can only say that you're delusional.

Ronnie also had better overall shape and fullness.

  The 2001 ASC Ronnie was not fuller than the 1995 Dorian.

You can nitpick which muscles Dorian had better shape in, but in the end Ronnie would still win overall.

  Evidence?

Muscularity is a push for Dorian b/c there was only a 10 lbs difference and Ronnie has smaller joints and better taper, which creates the illusion of greater size. All accounts of 01 ASC Ronnie say he looked big and full.

  Muscularity is not a push because Ronnie's frame, although smaller, is heavier than Dorian's and he was anywhere from 10 to 13 lbs lighter. And again, illusion does not factor in muscularity. I don't think any bodybuilding judge would give Wheeler the muscularity round at a bodybuilding contest over Kovacs depsite the former having a much better illusion of roundness. Size counts.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Hulkster]

Dorian 1996 easily beating Ronnie 2001 , Dorian showing much better separation of the traps , teres , infraspinatus , lats , etector spinae , triceps side & long heads , he pushes in separation of the three heads of the deltoids , Dorian is in his hotel room owning Ronnie lol imagine onstage? jesus

yes, but you are missing a crucial caveat to that comparision:

dorian is doing the pose with his arms extended and paused like he always does. It is a pose by itself.

Ronnie has been captured on in transition on the way to a back double bi.

it is NOT the same thing.

you should know this stuff by now.

Ronnie never does that straight arm shot (and holding) it like dorian does.

You are comparing apples to oranges.

this isn't an excuse, just a necessary truth that goes along with the comparison.

[pobrecito]

Any way you look at it, Ronnie's back is dough compared to Yates Hope this helps

[Hulkster]

If we analysed their Sodium/Potassium balance, you'd see that Dorian exhibited the higher level of dehydration; he was more conditioned

how do you know this?

Do the judges know this?

should this be measured in round 5?

 

bodybuilding is a visual sport. not a laboratory sport.

deal with it. Ronnie appeared harder than dorian was at the AC even in dorian's 93 shape:



and that, not Na/K pump potentials, is what counts.

[delta9mda]

Dorian 1996 easily beating Ronnie 2001 , Dorian showing much better separation of the traps , teres , infraspinatus , lats , etector spinae , triceps side & long heads , he pushes in separation of the three heads of the deltoids , Dorian is in his hotel room owning Ronnie lol imagine onstage? jesus

thats 95 yates, by the way.

[delta9mda]

smoking everyone at the 93 olympia

[pumpster]

smoking everyone at the 93 olympia

And yet another that doesn't confirm it. LOL

[pobrecito]

how do you know this?

Do the judges know this?

should this be measured in round 5?

 

bodybuilding is a visual sport. not a laboratory sport.

deal with it. Ronnie appeared harder than dorian was at the AC even in dorian's 93 shape:



and that, not Na/K pump potentials, is what counts.

Hulkster, you dyke, you just owned yourself posting those pictures. Diesel is annihilating Ronnie there in mass and condition. Just look at their delts, Ronnie are smooth whereas in Dorian's you can see the individual fibers. Ronnie looks like a cartoon with a bunch of pieces just thrown together; Diesel looks like a masterpiece put together by Michaelangelo himself. Hope this helps

[Hulkster]

thats 95 yates, by the way.

I keep telling ND that but he keeps claiming it is 96..

the quote is the giveaway: I'm back refers to rebounding from the injury of 1994..

but no one said ND was smart.

[Hulkster]

Hulkster, you dyke, you just owned yourself posting those pictures. Diesel is annihilating Ronnie there in mass and condition. Just look at their delts, Ronnie are smooth whereas in Dorian's you can see the individual fibers. Ronnie looks like a cartoon with a bunch of pieces just thrown together; Diesel looks like a masterpiece put together by Michaelangelo himself. Hope this helps

if I were you I would not be drawing attention to a comparison of delt detail between Ronnie and dorian...

 

dorian gets crushed as usual:

[Hulkster]

And yet another that doesn't confirm it. LOL

LOL that quad and those arms are not exactly flattering for dorian.

and sonny's chest is killing dorian's anyway.

the most muscular has always been dorian's worst pose because it shows off his biggest flaws:

arms, delts and quads.

he looks great from the back.

but not so much from the front (other than his thick lats and great abs)

[pobrecito]

Smooth as a baby's ass hahahahaha

[pobrecito]

It's funny...take away Ronnie's perfect pitch black lighting and he looks smooth as a baby's ass:

[pobrecito]

Ronnie's lats were tiny at the 01AC

[NeoSeminole]

See I respond to you and try to listen to your point of view until you type nonsense like Ronnie had better conditioning if anything it would be equal but to say its NOT up for debate is just nonsense , I won't try and convince you otherwise because you believe this but its NOT reality

01 ASC Ronnie matched or exceeded Dorian's best ever conditioning in 95, let alone in 93. The staff at Flex magazine feel the same way.

EVERYTHING in Dorian 1993/1995 was shredded Dorian was sans water in both years he was bone dry & rock hard and detailed from head to toe I've posted many quote by many eyewitnesses to back up what I say

I'm not disagreeing that Dorian had great conditioning both years. However, as dry and shredded as he was in 93, Ronnie was even better.

muscularity isn't muscular bulk , muscularity falls under the umbrella of conditioning NOT SIZE and wow Ronnie has smaller joints so he appears much bigger  Dorian IS BIGGER and a 247 pound Ronnie isn't going to make him look small especially when a 275 pound Dillett and a 318 pound Ferrigno couldn't and spare me its only 10 pounds nonsense , look at the difference just 7 pounds made in Ronnie fromk 1998 to 1999 , 10 pounds on a man one inch shorter is a big difference and its a big advantage in Dorian's favor

I never said a 247 lbs Ronnie would make Dorian look small. My point is that a 10 lbs difference is not much between 93 Dorian and 01 ASC Ronnie, especially when you consider that most of the weight Ronnie lost came from his quads. The rest of him appeared to be just as large as in 99.

[pobrecito]

Ronnie was never this fucking dry or conditioned...I mean just look at the fucking veins popping out of Diesel's back! 1995 Dorian was hands down, the greatest overall condition ever seen.

[Iceman1981]

It's funny...take away Ronnie's perfect pitch black lighting and he looks smooth as a baby's ass:

Everyone looks smooth with direct lights on them washing out the pic you idiot. What the hell are you even doing on this thread. You're like a little roach everywhere. Go back to your hole you troll.

[pobrecito]

Everyone looks smooth with direct lights on them washing out the pic you idiot. What the hell are you even doing on this thread. You're like a little roach everywhere. Go back to your hole you troll.

hahahahaha...more excuses from the resident trash can.....

Ronnie's 01AC was overrated. Put Ronnie in anything but pitch black lighting (99O, 99GP) and he look smooth like ass.

[Iceman1981]

Show me a pic of yates from the front in the same pose that is better than this shot of Coleman. Simply, you CAN NOT. He is dry, ripped, and seperated from head to toe. Even his abs looks amazing.