Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[delta9mda]

yates lats insert lower, refute that.

[NeoSeminole]

yates lats insert lower, refute that.

so what? Show me where in the IFBB criteria it asks for lats to insert at the waist. I don't know what the Dorian nuthuggers' fascination with lower inserting lats is. It gets to a point where a muscle starts to look weird the longer it is. I personally think Ronnie's taper looks more dramatic by having lats that insert just a few centimeters above Dorian's.

[NeoSeminole]

Ronnie may have matched Dorian for conditioning at the 2001AC, but he had to sacrafice too much muscle to even compare with Diesel from the back.

bwahahahahaha, you guys crack me up. Apparently, Dorian can be outweighed by over 30 lbs by guys like Paul Dillet and Lou Ferrigno and not get dwarfed, yet 01 ASC Ronnie weighs only 10 lbs less but would look small next to Dorian.

Those hideous, oil-laden, calves just completely ruin that entire back double biceps.

Twig arms combined with missing biceps completely ruin Dorian's rear double biceps.

[delta9mda]

so what? Show me where in the IFBB criteria it asks for lats to insert at the waist. I don't know what the Dorian nuthuggers' fascination with lower inserting lats is. It gets to a point where a muscle starts to look weird the longer it is. I personally think Ronnie's taper looks more dramatic by having lats that insert just a few centimeters above Dorian's.

easy boy, im stirring the pot.

[pobrecito]

Twig arms combined with missing biceps completely ruin Dorian's rear double biceps.

Oh really?

Then how did Dorian receive straight 1st in 5 out of his 6 Olympia wins?

[IceCold]

I love how the dorian side says that the dorian 94 screencaps are "high-Q" but that the Ronnie screencaps that dominated dorian were 'fake'..
 

holy shit, are you an idiot.

i dont mind explaining it to you.  again.  maybe eventually you'll understand.

yes, the quality of that 94 pic is different than others, but yates still has the same color and the background is similar in every shot whether it be from vhs, dvd, or a photo.

that's the difference.

the fake ronnie pics match nothing else related to the 99 contest.  

[NeoSeminole]

Oh really?

Then how did Dorian receive straight 1st in 5 out of his 6 Olympia wins?

the same way Ronnie received straight firsts in many of his contests. Apparently the judges didn't feel his calves were much of a problem.

[IceCold]

the same way Ronnie received straight firsts in many of his contests. Apparently the judges didn't feel his calves were much of a problem.

appreantly the judges didnt feel that yates smallish arms were a problem. 

i think ronnie only got 4/8 perfect scores, not to mention loosing to gunter in 02 at the GNC show.

he could have won, but he didnt.

yates got 5/6 perfect scores.

he also had had injuires that severly impaired his prep.  (not denying they were dorian's fault).

what was coleman's excuse?

i guess chad's plasma expanders didnt come in on time those years. 

[pobrecito]

the same way Ronnie received straight firsts in many of his contests. Apparently the judges didn't feel his calves were much of a problem.

So what do you suggest we do, call a truce?

[NeoSeminole]

So what do you suggest we do, call a truce?

no, I suggest that you stop penalizing Ronnie for his calves but overlooking Dorian's poor arms.

[delta9mda]

[pobrecito]

no, I suggest that you stop penalizing Ronnie for his calves but overlooking Dorian's poor arms.

No, I just think Ronnie's calves are worse than Dorian's arms pre-tear. Post tear, I have no problem with your statement. But I firmly believe that Yates' physique in 93 was the best ever seen on the Olympia stage in terms of satisfying the official judging criteria.

[The Heckler]

Dear Penis Gobblers and Fvckfaces alike,

Congratulations on this massive waste of bandwidth.

Your mothers would be proud of your efforts. 

[suckmymuscle]

bwahahahahaha, where do you get this shit from? Taper is not a function of delt-to-waist ratio. It's determined by the width of the lats in relation to the waist. If what you say is true, then Paul Dillet has the best taper from the back of all-time.

  Pay attention, retard. I was not talking about taper from the back, but from the front. In the pic I posted, Ronnie and Flex are standing relaxed from the front, and taper there is a function of delt-to-waist ratio. Owned. Give some though before posting your bullshit, otherwise you'll get owned every time.

Dorian's arms were never 21" onstage. Even if we entertain your nonsense that they measured 53 cm instead of 52, then they were 20.87 inches. 23" - 20.87" = 2.13" which is greater than 2.

  Dorian's arms were actually 54 cm onstage, and that's more than 21". Besides, I don't need to nit-pick at infinitesimal differences in milimeters to prove my point. Even if Dorian's arms were 20.87", is that closer to 20" or to 21", you idiot fucker? I don't know if you are aware of this, but in fourth grade or so they teach you that you round the number up when it's higher than four decimals.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[chaos]

Dear Penis Gobblers and Fvckfaces alike,

Congratulations on this massive waste of bandwidth.

Your mothers would be proud of your efforts. 

their mothers hate them and beat them with wooden spoons

[The Heckler]

meltdown

RONNIE IS BETTER THAN YATES

Agreed.

[suckmymuscle]

SUCKY
the long posts in our argument make it pointless.
i said that seperations,cuts and striations can be used to decipher bf and water levels. you said they did not

.

  No, I said they cannot indicate bodyfat and water precisely, because Human Beings don't show a precise number of separations for a given amount of bodyfat. Since a bodybuilder can actually have lower bodyfat and water than another and less separations, your hypothesis is flawed. Sorry. Low fat and water levels correlate with separations, but the correlation is not absolute. This is what you fail to grasp. You can say that Coleman looks more conditioned than Dorian because he has a more spearations, but can you say that he actually has a lower bodyfat? No, no, no!!!!!!

however, you claim that dorian was at 3%(ill be it with no proof, seems like your just making up the number) and dryer then ronnie.

  Because 3% is the lowest a Human can go, and Dorian always made the point of being as shredded as he could possibly get. He wouldn't compromise and would go as low as possible. Besides, several bodybuilding writers have said, especifically, that Dorian was at 3% bodyfat for his contests

how do you know dorian is dryer or has lower bf then ronnie?

  I don't. But you can't say that Ronnie was lower in fat and water either just because he was more separated. Again, unless you can demonstrate that all Humans show the exact same amount of separations for a given bodyfat level, then what's your point? You have no game.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NeoSeminole]

Pay attention, retard. I was not talking about taper from the back, but from the front. In the pic I posted, Ronnie and Flex are standing relaxed from the front, and taper there is a function of delt-to-waist ratio. Owned. Give some though before posting your bullshit, otherwise you'll get owned every time.

you're the first person I've met who's stupid enough to argue that taper is a function of delt-to-waist ratio. Taper has always been determined by the width of the lats in relation to the waist. This is why a person with a V-shape has better taper than someone with a T-shape. However, even if we entertain your nonsense, it's obvious that Ronnie still has better taper than Flex from the front. You should give some thought before posting your bullshit, otherwise you will get owned every time.

Dorian's arms were actually 54 cm onstage, and that's more than 21". Besides, I don't need to nit-pick at infinitesimal differences in milimeters to prove my point. Even if Dorian's arms were 20.87", is that closer to 20" or to 21", you idiot fucker? I don't know if you are aware of this, but in fourth grade or so they teach you that you round the number up when it's higher than four decimals.

ha ha ha ha, I love this. First, Dorian's arms were 52 cm according to you. Then it became 53 cm after I called you out. Now the number has grown to 54 cm. Give me a break! Does this arm look over 21" to you?



By the way, I never said that 20.87" is closer to 20" than 21". Please show me where I suggested this. You can't, you retard. You have to make shit up in order to argue with me. How pathetic.

[Hulkster]

man, ronnie's equal width but far superior taper just kill's dorian's...

not to mention the rolls of loose skin on the lower back...

[Hulkster]

A Hulkster/NeoSemen gimmick account isn't even worth of a reply.

Iceman is not a gimmick account of either of us.

I have no gimmick accounts.

ask the moderators.

[Hulkster]

this comparison is just embarassing for dorian.

ronnie's back is so thick it makes dorian's look flat as board.

and, that now infamous loose fat/skin..so much for being bone dry...

[Hulkster]

also notice how in ronnie's arms you can clearly see the deliniation of the entire triceps muscle.

dorian's arms are so doughy you can't see anything. Look like two blobs in the shape of twigs.

just horrible.

[Hulkster]

also notice in ronnie's deltoids you can also see all three heads.

in dorian's, you can't - they look like blobs of golden brown dough.

just horrible

[Hulkster]

other than the trap detail that is an absolutely horrible back double bi shot.

thin by comparison back, doughy arms/delts, rolls of loose skin...

what a disaster for dorian

Ronnie would crush him in that pose, from the knees up

[Hulkster]