Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[pobrecito]

FLAT an empty claim such ignorant nonsense he looks flat because it has more area? because Dorian's lats insert near his waist , give me a break , Ronnie has tint lats in 01 compared to Dorian , Dorian crushes him on lat thickness , he crushes Ronnie on lower back thickness and traps thickness , you show pics of Ronnie at 247 pounds claiming his back is thicker than 260 pound Dorian its insanely stupid , right up your ally

great post !!

[Hulkster]

based on ND's last post either one or both of the following things is occuring:

A) he doesn't understand what back thickness is

and/or

B) he can't see any of the pics he himself or any of us is posting..


 

I'll try this again:

dorian's back is thin as paper compared to Ronnie's:

[pumpster]

great post !!

"Great post" AKA my nose is firmly up your ass, anything else master? LOL

[pumpster]

I'm not saying Dorian has better taper I could care less , Dorian has superior thickness

Basically finally conceding that he loses badly on taper. I could care less that he doesn't care less about one of BB's most important criteria, taper!

Coleman dominating, even at a lighter bodyweight.

[NarcissisticDeity]

great post !!

That statement of Ronnie at 247 pounds TOPS hai=ving a thicker back than a 260 pound Dorian ranks up there with Dorian is the most overrated bodybuilder of all time lol massively stupid

he's yet to say where he's thicker lol Dorian's lats are larger , insert lower and are visibly thicker , his traps are insanely huge and thick and his lower back is thicker , his erector spinae look like steel cords he's just retarded lol

[suckmymuscle]

you didnt prove anything wrong.

conditioning is created by low water and bf. seperations, cuts, striations and hardness increase with low bf and water hence are the criteria of conditioning that are used to validate conditioning. hmmmm..... keep the logic train going, making inferences about conditioning is also implying an estimate of water and bf(not precisely, this sport is not precise). to say he is better conditioned is to imply lower bf and water in some combo, which is then objectified by the visual criteria. if linearity mattered like you propose it does then hardness would be thrown out, cuts, etc since they arent linear.

hence if you comment on someones conditioning like you do by saying dorian is dry, people will say how do you know, you will reply "he is hard" hmmmm... sounds like you guys keep making inferences about levels of the two variables based on the criteria. now im using it for ronnie using sep, cuts, striations which are also criteria. you said you cant make inferences about bodyfat and water based on sep because of the non-linearity yet you do it with dorian when you imply he is bone dry, more then anyone based on a criteria, yet my hypothesis is WRONG. sorry it is right. judges use the criteria, then critique conditioning whilst implying water and bf.

if you cant look at bf and water from the criteria then how are you guys saying that dorian is dry? what measurement are you taking that im not privy too?

when you say hardness i will accept your apology.

i posted the definition of taper. you contend that the endpoints create taper. shoulder to waist. this is dead wrong. the definition is there for you to peruse.

to taper means to gradual increase or decrease not go from waist to shoulder which is two different measurements.

show me what definition your working from or how shoulder to waist show gradual change without refering to lats.

your wrong im sorry, there is only one truth. there is no debate about either of the above subjects.

to prove me wrong.

1)show me how you can say dorian is dry(water levels) without referring to the criteria

2)show me what definition your working with on taper, and please show the gradual increase from waist to shoulder without reference to the lats.

  If you equate conditioning with bodyfat and water levels and not with separations, then you cannot argue that Ronnie is more conditioned than Dorian because he is more separated, because the relation between both things is not linear. Period.

  I never said that Dorian was more  coditioned because he looks harder; my point is that ignoring hardness as a measure of conditioning while accepting separation is bias. Why? Because both things increase as you decrease bodyfat/water, and none is more indicative of bodyfat/water tha the other. Hope this helps ya.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Basically finally conceding that he loses badly on taper. I could care less that he doesn't care less about one of BB's most important criteria, taper!

Coleman dominating, even at a lighter bodyweight.

Please show me where it says the greatest taper wins , please do and the irony of you posting a picture of Ronnie with his outstanding taper and Shawn Ray with among this worse proves my point , Shawn destroyed Ronnie and his taper in 1996 lol apparently its NOT one of the most important criteria you dolt lol

Monster self-ownage lol go back to playing in your training-section sand-box kid and leave the intelligent discusion to adults

[pobrecito]

"Great post" AKA my nose is firmly up your ass, anything else master? LOL

Pumpster = Faggola hahahahaha

[pobrecito]

Shawn Ray looks like a little kid LOL

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pumpster = Faggola hahahahaha

Now he's owned by you lol he posts a pic of Ronnie and goes on about how taper is one of the most important criteria and Shawn a guy with the sports most lackluster taper easily beats Ronnie and his lol what a loser

[suckmymuscle]

sucky i just think your arguing for the sake of arguing now.

really you clearly said dorians arms were 21,  then you say that if exactly was used you would have been wrong.


when you state something in the affirmitive you imply exactness.


hmm if you said approx youd have a way out, but you dont.

Oh, give me a fucking break! Of course I said that Dorian's arms at his biggest were 21", but that's because the figure of 53 cm or so that I gave for Dorian's arms are closer to 21" than to 20". Just because Dorian fails by one centimeter to actually have 21" is irrelevant. Wtf?! Are you people retarded? So the next time I should mention that Dorian's arms were 20.87" like Sperm suggests and not 21"?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

Hulkster learn what back thickness is check out the thickness of the lower lats and erector spinae , looks like steel cords from the length of his lats to the end , please show me a pic of a 247 pound Ronnie that can match this lol

[Cap]

Pumpster = Faggola hahahahaha

Pobrecito=Little Poor Man
It's true, check the translation.  Trolling and attacking like usual

[NarcissisticDeity]

Pobrecito=Little Poor Man
It's true, check the translation.  Trolling and attacking like usual

pumpster is the biggest troll on this thread by far !

[Necrosis]

I'm not saying Dorian has better taper I could care less , Dorian has superior thickness

not even close are you looking at different pictures. post a pic were dorians back is thicker the ronnis in the back double bi. every pic ive seen of contest dorian his back was less then thick. just because you say something doesnt make it so. ronnies back is thicker based on the pics, your just making stuff up. ronnies lats are bigger, traps are bigger. were do you come up with this stuff. if you really want to talk about size, use the 03 ronnie, who would make dorian look like a baby.


and to sucky, i dont know anythign about your argument involving centimeters or rounding errors, you said dorians arms are 21(a number that means nothing, since this is a visual sport). then used a lame excuse about you would have said exactly.

thats all i was saying. i never read you and NEOs argument save the taper argument in which your wrong.

[pumpster]

Pumpster = Faggola hahahahaha

hahahahaahahahahah in defeat they're reduced to following pump around

[pobrecito]

God damn, this is an ass-beating by Yates...the funny thing is, Ronnie is closer to his peak here than Yates is LOL. Ronnie is getting his ass handed to him on everything in the back, thickness, width, detail, proportion hahahahah

[Necrosis]

Oh, give me a fucking break! Of course I said that Dorian's arms at his biggest were 21", but that's because the figure of 53 cm or so that I gave for Dorian's arms are closer to 21" than to 20". Just because Dorian fails by one centimeter to actually have 21" is irrelevant. Wtf?! Are you people retarded? So the next time I should mention that Dorian's arms were 20.87" like Sperm suggests and not 21"?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

dude this is a serious meltdown, if your that upset over the post i will delete it.

[NeoSeminole]

Well they constantly overlook his midsection and not just the distension , the lack of great detail , separation and Coleman's midsection always looks like it's pushing out even when held tight , I love how the geniuses brag about Coleman being aesthetic when three of hallmark muscles of an aesthetic physique are delts , abdominals and calves and he's has among the worse of all Mr Olympias in TWO of these areas but he's aesthetic lol

yes Bob Paris , Steve Reeves and Ronnie Coleman

where do you get this shit from? Calves have never been the hallmark of being aesthetic. Serge Nubret, Frank Zane, Chris Cormier, and Flex Wheeler all have weak calves. I also disagree about the abdominals. Lee Haney had a huge gap between his abs and Arnold had a 4-pack. It would seem that having a small waist is more important for looking aesthetic than having great abdominals.

[pumpster]

Pubes & ND, trolls extraordinaire following pump around like seals...bwahahahahaahaha hahahah

[Cap]

Pubes & ND, trolls extraordinaire...bwahaha hahaahahahahahah

Little Poor Man can now be used interchangeably for pobrecito

[NarcissisticDeity]

based on ND's last post either one or both of the following things is occuring:

A) he doesn't understand what back thickness is

and/or

B) he can't see any of the pics he himself or any of us is posting..


 

I'll try this again:

dorian's back is thin as paper compared to Ronnie's:

No loser you don't understanding what thickness , learn this from Ronnie Coleman 


DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

let me post that again the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

Damn you're owned and you're owned by your HERO lol oh and for the cry babies the quote was made in 2003 

[pobrecito]

Coleman owned hahahahahahahahaha

[pumpster]

dude this is a serious meltdown, if your that upset over the post i will delete it.

No kidding! This "student of physiology" has serious problems!! LOL

Do NOT delete-he might attack someone in real life if it's removed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

where do you get this shit from? Calves have never been the hallmark of being aesthetic. Serge Nubret, Frank Zane, Chris Cormier, and Flex Wheeler all have weak calves. I also disagree about the abdominals. Lee Haney had a huge gap between his abs and Arnold had a 4-pack. It would seem that having a small waist is more important for looking aesthetic than having great abdominals.

Where do I get this from? Arnold Schwarzenegger but Neo knows more lol go away