Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Sorry but bannout is just a assclown for me with no class, to use quotes from him is like you would quote kamali, pointess

Sure bannout was the deserved winner of the 1983 Mr.O but the man itself is a big disgrace for the sport.

Here a few examples if needed.

Bannout said he will beat haney in 1988 with no problems ( bannout looked like shit ) and that mike christian is not in his league (after he has seen haney backstage he said he has seen god and he almost cried )
 
A few years later in 1990 at the english grand prix he could not deal with his more than fair 6th place and almost knocked out the promoter.

This clown is in no way a expert for me, he could not even see that he was not in the same league as haney so please if you use a quote next time make sure that the guy is not in samir's league.

Hope that helps.

Poor examples to try and undermine Samir's opinion which has some basis , he's right at the time Jay's back wasn't comparable to Ronnies and Ronnie does have the second best back behind Dorian , and Ronnie himself said this in 2003

And I'm assuming your feel Ronnie is a disgrace to sport as well for his many off comments over the years? but no you wouldn't you're a typical Coleman fan , a hypocrite 

[NarcissisticDeity]

dorian was just being humble.

isnt that your excuse whenever ronnie praises yates?

owned again, buddy. 

 

Dorian NEVER once said Ronnie is better than me , he said the judges would PROBABLY go with Ronnie based on a size advantage and he never once said Ronnie at around the same weight would beat him , and Neo is owned for the specific reason that while Dorian said this he also point out he on contest day would have BETTER BALANCE & CONDITIONING so Neo being the biased nutt hugger pics and chooses what he wants from the quote and discards the rest and the irony of that is he's told me that I'm bound to believe everything a person says or nothing , so Neo more ownage for you and you've been taken a beating lately lol hell all of Camp-Delusional has been more so than usual

[NeoSeminole]

No his back doesn't just look smooth in that pic it is damn smooth lol Dorian's glutes in 1997 with striations  see the picture , and again you've been owned with the pic you posted by Dorian and now the excuses are rolling out like clockwork

bwahahahahaha, ND is losing his mind. Please circle the striations on Dorian's glutes in this pic. I don't give a shit about those other pics you posted b/c I wasn't referring to them. Smooth as a baby's ass.

No this isn't figurative its literal as it gets

I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab

Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.

Yates didn't just appear to be a tad bigger than anyone on-stage he appeared to be so " BY FAR " thats as literal as it gets kid and by an IFBB judge no less , it just doesn't get better than this

stop acting like such a dumbass. The judge was obviously referring to Dorian's aura of invincibility that year. The part where he said Dorian "appeared to be the biggest man on stage" is a dead giveaway. Anyone with a brain can see that Lou Ferrigno and Paul Dillet were both much larger than Dorian.

And do Dorian's ams look small from this angle?

yes

[NeoSeminole]

dorian was just being humble.

isnt that your excuse whenever ronnie praises yates?

owned again, buddy.

you do realize that my comment was meant to show why quotes are meaningless? If anything, ND got owned b/c he relies on quotes so heavily in his arguments. Dorian admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him.

[NarcissisticDeity]

bwahahahahaha, ND is losing his mind. Please circle the striations on Dorian's glutes in this pic. I don't give a shit about those other pics you posted b/c I wasn't referring to them. Smooth as a baby's ass.


stop acting like such a dumbass. The judge was obviously referring to Dorian's aura of invincibility that year. Anyone with a brain can see that Lou Ferrigno and Paul Dillet were both much larger than Dorian. The part where the judge said Dorian "appeared to be the biggest man on stage" is a dead giveaway.

yes

bwahahahahaha, ND is losing his mind. Please circle the striations on Dorian's glutes in this pic. I don't give a shit about those other pics you posted b/c I wasn't referring to them. Smooth as a baby's ass.

meltdown , he clearly has striations 

stop acting like such a dumbass. The judge was obviously referring to Dorian's aura of invincibility that year. Anyone with a brain can see that Lou Ferrigno and Paul Dillet were both much larger than Dorian. The part where the judge said Dorian "appeared to be the biggest man on stage" is a dead giveaway.

yes

No he wasn't  , he specifically mentioned Dorian was lighter than both the heaviest men in the show and that they didn't make him look small in fact he appeared to be the biggest man on stage BY FAR so its no metaphor not when he mentions specifically Dorian was LIGHTER than Dillet & Ferrigno the two heaviest men

your assessment that Ronnie had a thicker and better back at 244 pounds is JUNK that Ronnie 2003 would ' dwarf ' Dorian is JUNK and your assessment that Ronnie 2001 and 1999 weighed ' about the same ' is JUNK

[NarcissisticDeity]

you do realize that my comment was meant to show why quotes are meaningless? If anything, ND got owned b/c he relies on quotes so heavily in his arguments. Dorian admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him.

Dorian admitted the judges would PROBABLY go with a heavier Ronnie he never once said the judges would probably go with Ronnie 1998/1999/2001 etc

he also said it was very hard for him to answer as well and quotes back up my claims and continue to do so , I've always maintained Dorian was better balance & conditioned and he said specifically in relation to Ronnie Coleman , I've always maintained Ronnie had a mediocre side chest and side triceps shot , and low and behold after the fact Shawn Ray confirmed what I said for months previous , I always maintained Dorian at his best was had out standing balance & proportions and in reality no weak points and that was confirmed by Bev Francis who is an IFBB judge no less

you hate the quote because they back up what I've always maintained , you hate the quotes because they crush your ignorant opinion , and the irony is you tried the quote game and lost and now they're meaningless lol kid go away and come back when you can run with the big dogs 

[IceCold]

you do realize that my comment was meant to show why quotes are meaningless? If anything, ND got owned b/c he relies on quotes so heavily in his arguments. Dorian admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him.

and ronnie admitted the samething. 

[pobrecito]

bwahahahahaha, ND is losing his mind. Please circle the striations on Dorian's glutes in this pic. I don't give a shit about those other pics you posted b/c I wasn't referring to them. Smooth as a baby's ass.



yes

You f*ggot.

He is not tensing his glutes in that shot.

Are you really this fucking desperate?

[NeoSeminole]

Dorian NEVER once said Ronnie is better than me , he said the judges would PROBABLY go with Ronnie based on a size advantage and he never once said Ronnie at around the same weight would beat him , and Neo is owned for the specific reason that while Dorian said this he also point out he on contest day would have BETTER BALANCE & CONDITIONING so Neo being the biased nutt hugger pics and chooses what he wants from the quote and discards the rest and the irony of that is he's told me that I'm bound to believe everything a person says or nothing , so Neo more ownage for you and you've been taken a beating lately lol hell all of Camp-Delusional has been more so than usual

saying the judges would probably choose Ronnie over him is the same as admitting that Ronnie is better. It's irrelevant that Dorian ascribed it to a size advantage. It would be like Ronnie saying the judges would probably go with Dorian based on a dryness advantage. If the judges favor one thing over another, then it comes down to who meets that criteria better. It's not Ronnie's fault that Dorian was smaller. I don't see how I got "owned" b/c Dorian says he has better balance and conditioning. He still admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him. It would be akin to Ronnie pointing out that he has greater muscularity, better definition and more aesthetics, yet the judges would probably choose Dorian. In the end, Dorian still said that Ronnie would probably win.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Another confirmation that Ronnie was just 244 pounds at the 2001 ASC this time by Shawn Perine in Flex Dec 2006 page 102 

" good enough to handle the like of Cutler , Jackson and Badell that year , but widely recognized as not being up to par with his 287-pound incarnation of 2003 , which had been deemed a notch below his 244-pound Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic form of 2001. Clearly , bigger did not equate to better for Coleman. "

Couple that with this one and its safe to assume he was 244 pounds and NO fucking way in hell had a thicker or wider back than Dorian who was 16 pounds heavier

Peter McGough Flex Magazine August 2005

Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack.

[NeoSeminole]

Another confirmation that Ronnie was just 244 pounds at the 2001 ASC this time by Shawn Perine in Flex Dec 2006 page 102

he is wrong.

[NeoSeminole]

meltdown , he clearly has striations

yawn, his glutes are smooth as a baby's ass.

No he wasn't  , he specifically mentioned Dorian was lighter than both the heaviest men in the show and that they didn't make him look small in fact he appeared to be the biggest man on stage BY FAR so its no metaphor not when he mentions specifically Dorian was LIGHTER than Dillet & Ferrigno the two heaviest men

bwahahahahahaha, that's even more of a giveaway that the judge was using figurative language.

[NeoSeminole]

more proof that Ronnie was 247 lbs at the 01 ASC.

Peter McGough



I'll even do the math for you to keep it simple.

265 - 18 = 247

[Necrosis]

Moron Ronnie said Dorian had the thickest and freakiest back he ever seen , stop crying 

what did you expect him to say in an interview setting about a all time great? did you think he was going to rip him apart and proclaim he would have no trouble beating him??? if you do your a moron. respect is paid, during the battle it is often not but winners always praise losers, its the right thing to do. just like ronnie praised a previous olympian. its not that hard to comprehend.

agian you seem to think people are machines and dont have alterior motives. your a moron.

[NarcissisticDeity]

saying the judges would probably choose Ronnie over him is the same as admitting that Ronnie is better. It's irrelevant that Dorian ascribed it to a size advantage. It would be like Ronnie saying the judges would probably go with Dorian based on a dryness advantage. If the judges favor one thing over another, then it comes down to who meets that criteria better. It's not Ronnie's fault that Dorian was smaller. I don't see how I got "owned" b/c Dorian says he has better balance and conditioning. He still admitted that Ronnie would probably beat him. It would be akin to Ronnie pointing out that he has greater muscularity, better definition and more aesthetics, yet the judges would probably choose Dorian. In the end, Dorian still said that Ronnie would probably win.

I always said that 2003 the judges may pick Ronnie over Dorian just based on his size advantage but again he was asked specifically how he would fair against Ronnie and not Ronnie 1998/1998/2001 ASC I think he would say say something different

and see this is purely hypothetical lets even things up a bit and have Dorian at 285 pounds and according to Kevin Horton Dorian's conditioning at that weight hasn't been surpassed so what advantage would Ronnie have then? 

And you are owned because you specifically said Ronnie had better balance & conditioning compared to Dorian which I obviously said he didn't and had it confirmed by Dorian , so your original assessment is owned by me and Dorian 

[NarcissisticDeity]

he is wrong.

Ah we have conflicting reports so in that case neither of us can be right , so don't claim you are and I have two sources how many do you have ? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

yawn, his glutes are smooth as a baby's ass.


bwahahahahahaha, that's even more of a giveaway that the judge was using figurative language.

Neo he's not flexing them lol I mean seriously

and it wasn't figuratively he specifically mentioned Dorian being lighter and appearing the biggest on-stage BY FAR 

[pobrecito]

he is wrong.

That's still 15lbs less muscle than Dorian carried.

15lbs of pure muscle makes a massive difference, hell, even 2-3lbs does.

Ronnie owned

[Necrosis]

haha ND says that conflicting sources rule out certainty yet keeps posting quotes when there are conflicting quotes saying ronnie is the best of all time. whats even better the ronnie side quotes are taking dorian into consideration at his best and they still refer to ronnie as the best

listen dummy, quotes mean shit all, the pics tell the whole story.

[IceCold]

That's still 15lbs less muscle than Dorian carried.

15lbs of pure muscle makes a massive difference, hell, even 2-3lbs does.

Ronnie owned

indeed.

[NarcissisticDeity]

haha ND says that conflicting sources rule out certainty yet keeps posting quotes when there are conflicting quotes saying ronnie is the best of all time. whats even better the ronnie side quotes are taking dorian into consideration at his best and they still refer to ronnie as the best

listen dummy, quotes mean shit all, the pics tell the whole story.

How stupid can you be ? pictures most certainly don't tell the WHOLE story , they're moments in time nothing whole about them and they can be deceiving

[NeoSeminole]

see this is purely hypothetical lets even things up a bit and have Dorian at 285 pounds and according to Kevin Horton Dorian's conditioning at that weight hasn't been surpassed so what advantage would Ronnie have then?

no one here has seen these pics of Dorian you speak of. They might as well not exist. Sorry, but I would rather use my own brain and two eyes rather than blindly accept the word of someone else. However, let's just say for argument's sake that Dorian did look better in those pics than he ever did on stage. I would gladly match the 02 BFTO pics of Ronnie to Dorian anyday.

And you are owned because you specifically said Ronnie had better balance & conditioning compared to Dorian which I obviously said he didn't and had it confirmed by Dorian , so your original assessment is owned by me and Dorian

I said that 01 ASC Ronnie - NOT 03 - had better balance than Dorian, and tied his all-time best in conditioning.

[NarcissisticDeity]

no one here has seen these pics of Dorian you speak of. They might as well not exist. Sorry, but I would rather use my own brain and two eyes rather than blindly accept the word of someone else. However, let's just say for argument's sake that Dorian did look better in those pics than he ever did on stage. I would gladly match the 02 BFTO pics of Ronnie to Dorian anyday.


I said that 01 ASC Ronnie - NOT 03 - had better balance than Dorian, and tied his all-time best in conditioning.

Dorian's conditioning at 285 pounds has NOT been surpassed  I'll take that on a matter of authority seeing I was there from someone who was and around both of them at their bests and worse showings

and lmfao at 01 having better balance , better balance for Ron yes , than Dorian NO

[NeoSeminole]

That's still 15 lbs less muscle than Dorian carried.

wtf are you talking about? 247 + 15 = 262. Dorian weighed 257 lbs in 93 and 260 lbs in 95. So I don't know which version of Dorian you are talking about.

[NarcissisticDeity]

wtf are you talking about? 247 + 15 = 262. Dorian weighed 257 lbs in 93 and 260 lbs in 95. So I don't know which version of Dorian you are talking about.

244 pounds vs Yates 260 pounds = 16 pounds difference