yawn, I already asked you to show me where you think I got owned. Your lack of evidence speaks volumes. 
You've gotta be shitting me? I would really love if a poll were made to determine if people think you owned me or the other way around. Me and NarcissisticDeity have been taking turns bitch-slapping you since May, 2006. It's not even a contest. At least Hulkster hides behid his "shape" argument and puts on a fight. You, conversely, copy and parrot mine and NarcissisticDeity's argumentative tactics because we're superior to you and you know it.
I barely even post on this thread because I have written everything I had to say and defeated everyone who argued with me covincingly, yourself included. The best you can do is argue that Dorian's arms were not really 21" because he failed by one centimeter and that somehow makes me someone with no credibility, etc, etc, etc. You are pathetic. I took you out even in a discussion that has nothing to do with bodybuilding. The fact that you can say things such as that the law of cause and effect is not explained by logic and still think that you're smart is beyond me.
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