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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24825 on: February 22, 2007, 07:01:57 PM »
ND how arent his arms doughy and smooth, lacking detail in those shots compared to ronnie. please enlighten me how his arms are better conditioned then ronnies.



I never said his arms were better conditioned , they are at least as conditioned as Ronnies and his  arms aren't soft , they aren't holding any water , once again this is evident by the thiness of skin over raw muscle and Dorian's been described as having tissue paper for skin

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24826 on: February 22, 2007, 07:04:02 PM »
What's your point?

Ronnie's whole backside is doughy




my point is that when it was doughy (when he was out of shape) we call it as it is: doughy.

the dorian side does not.

it looks at the 'red' car and says it is blue.

when it is actually red and everyone knows it.

you can show ND a pic of dorian's arms looking like playdough and he will STILL try and tell you that they are "seperated and detailed"... ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24827 on: February 22, 2007, 07:05:35 PM »
again, i was at the o in 91 and 95, calling yates goughy is a real stretch.

he is not doughy in all bodyparts, just arms and quads most years...

but arms and quads are pretty fucking important and not exactly 'minor'...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24828 on: February 22, 2007, 07:06:40 PM »
Neo should post that shot of dorian standing with flex after winning, with Flex's arms looking noticably bigger despite being 30 pounds lighter...

Dorian always had twig arms, although some years it was less noticeable.











and here's the real kicker... ND posted this guy's pic as an example of what proportionately small arms look like. So I put a shot of Dorian next to him in order to compare. It turns out Dorian's arms look even smaller.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24829 on: February 22, 2007, 07:07:13 PM »
It's analogous to me saying Ronnie's calves are doughy because they looks smooth and the irony is you wont find me claiming that because that doesn't indicate he's holding water or fat , its retarded logic

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24830 on: February 22, 2007, 07:08:23 PM »
my point is that when it was doughy (when he was out of shape) we call it as it is: doughy.

the dorian side does not.

it looks at the 'red' car and says it is blue.

when it is actually red and everyone knows it.

you can show ND a pic of dorian's arms looking like playdough and he will STILL try and tell you that they are "seperated and detailed"... ::)

And the best part is ND can back up his claim with an eyewitness account the same can't be said for Hulkster  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24831 on: February 22, 2007, 07:08:39 PM »
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they are at least as conditioned as Ronnies and his  arms aren't soft , they aren't holding any water

see, this is EXACTLY What I am talking about:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24832 on: February 22, 2007, 07:09:05 PM »
Dorian always had twig arms, although some years it was less noticeable.











and here's the real kicker... ND posted this guy's pic as an example of what proportionately small arms look like. So I put a shot of Dorian next to him in order to compare. It turns out Dorian's arms look even smaller.



Yawn and it wasn't Dorian at his best either  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24833 on: February 22, 2007, 07:10:12 PM »
he is not doughy in all bodyparts, just arms and quads most years...

but arms and quads are pretty fucking important and not exactly 'minor'...

What part of completely ripped don't you grasp? do you presume to know more than an IFBB judge? lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24834 on: February 22, 2007, 07:13:42 PM »
No water or sq fat in these arms what so ever ! only the ignorant claim otherwise

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24835 on: February 22, 2007, 07:14:11 PM »
And the best part is ND can back up his claim with an eyewitness account the same can't be said for Hulkster

bullshit. The Ronnie side has posted quotes from numreous people who saw both compete, and they all say that Ronnie would beat Dorian. You just choose which quotes to accept and which to ignore. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24836 on: February 22, 2007, 07:15:21 PM »
Yawn and it wasn't Dorian at his best either

bwahahahaha, I posted pics of Dorian from 93-97. Then what exactly do you consider his best year?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24837 on: February 22, 2007, 07:16:33 PM »
Yawn and it wasn't Dorian at his best either  ;)

newsflash ND: they look just as SMALL in 93:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24838 on: February 22, 2007, 07:17:00 PM »
my point is that when it was doughy (when he was out of shape) we call it as it is: doughy.

the dorian side does not.

it looks at the 'red' car and says it is blue.

when it is actually red and everyone knows it.

you can show ND a pic of dorian's arms looking like playdough and he will STILL try and tell you that they are "seperated and detailed"... ::)

But the fact of the matter is, Ronnie's backside was always Doughy when compared with Yates, in any year. And the fact is, the backside is the single most important aspect of a competitors physique, not the arms, not the calves. Those are relatively useless in determining who wins (how else could Dorian win with arms less than Ronnie's, and how could Ronnie win with calves worse than Dorian......answer: they aren't that important). However, it is true that the arms are less of a liability than the calves. I know you don't believe this...and that is due to the fact that Ronnie never faced anyone with calves like Dorian, so his calves were never really a liability. The converse does not hold true though, Dorian faced many people with great arms, including Ronnie, and he defeated them every single time.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24839 on: February 22, 2007, 07:17:54 PM »
What part of completely ripped don't you grasp? do you presume to know more than an IFBB judge? lol

being able to see clearly has nothing to do with 'knowing more' than an 'ifbb judge'

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24840 on: February 22, 2007, 07:18:04 PM »
No water or sq fat in these arms what so ever ! only the ignorant claim otherwise

Dorian's arms in that shot look like Ronnie's when he's off season. What that tells me is that Dorian stores more fat in water in his arms than Ronnie does. There's no plausible reason why you can't see the definition in his biceps if he's so conditioned as you say.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24841 on: February 22, 2007, 07:18:20 PM »
bullshit. The Ronnie side has posted quotes from numreous people who saw both compete, and they all say that Ronnie would beat Dorian. You just choose which quotes to accept and which to ignore. ;)

Yawn I don't ignore anything , if you'd paid attention I've said for a while now that Ronnie 2003 may indeed beat Dorian by virtue of his size how is that ignoring pro-Ronnie quotes? Oh waits its NOT  ;) and you people are ignorant and opinion you fight tooth & nail and I can back them up with eye witness accounts , your opinions to the contrary YOU CANNOT  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24842 on: February 22, 2007, 07:20:14 PM »
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But the fact of the matter is, Ronnie's backside was always Doughy when compared with Yates, in any year.

yet another example of an opinion that is CLEARLY WRONG:

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once again, calling the red car blue ::)
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24843 on: February 22, 2007, 07:20:54 PM »
Dorian's arms in that shot look like Ronnie's when he's off season. What that tells me is that Dorian stores more fat in water in his arms than Ronnie does. There's no plausible reason why you can't see the definition in his biceps if he's so conditioned as you say.

Again if he was holding ANY water or fat there would be reference to it and I've read EVERY single contest report of Dorian's career and NEVER once did it mention he was holding water or fat in ANY and even in 1994 the judges reference Kevin being a tad soft in prejudging and NOT one single mention of Dorian holding any , because he's not you're ignorant plain & simple

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24844 on: February 22, 2007, 07:22:35 PM »
being able to see clearly has nothing to do with 'knowing more' than an 'ifbb judge'

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Sure it does you see what you want , like Lee Labrada having crappy abs and calves , like Dorian being the most overrated bodybuilder of all time , like Ronnie 1999 having more detail in his calves than Dorian , you don't know what you're talking about and you're ignorant !

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24845 on: February 22, 2007, 07:23:00 PM »
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However, it is true that the arms are less of a liability than the calves.

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no judge in the world would ever agree with this.

the arms are major and composed of the delts (not strictly speaking, but they go hand in hand), triceps, biceps and forearms.

taken as a whole, this is a lot more important than the calves...
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24846 on: February 22, 2007, 07:24:54 PM »
, you don't know what you're talking about and you're ignorant !

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great response.

calling these arms for what they are (doughy) has nothing to do with 'what i want to see'

it is called obivous truth:

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24847 on: February 22, 2007, 07:25:01 PM »
Yawn I don't ignore anything , if you'd paid attention I've said for a while now that Ronnie 2003 may indeed beat Dorian by virtue of his size how is that ignoring pro-Ronnie quotes? Oh waits its NOT and you people are ignorant and opinion you fight tooth & nail and I can back them up with eye witness accounts , your opinions to the contrary YOU CANNOT

Peter McGough said that 01 ASC Ronnie is unbeatable. He wasn't referring to 03 Ronnie. So you are ignoring quotes from people who know more about bodybuilding than you. Don't tell me you're not when you obviously are. Moreover, I don't know how you can say that you back up your opinions with eye witness accounts yet I don't. Peter McGough, Flex Wheeler, Dorian Yates and Paul Dillet have all seen both compete, and they all agree that Ronnie would win. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24848 on: February 22, 2007, 07:26:12 PM »
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great response.

calling these arms for what they are (doughy) has nothing to do with 'what i want to see'

it is called obivous truth:

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Again you're ignorant , its that simple the analogy would be to say Ronnie's calves are holding fat & water because they appear smooth , so they're doughy its retarded like your assessments

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #24849 on: February 22, 2007, 07:28:10 PM »
Again if he was holding ANY water or fat there would be reference to it and I've read EVERY single contest report of Dorian's career and NEVER once did it mention he was holding water or fat in ANY and even in 1994 the judges reference Kevin being a tad soft in prejudging and NOT one single mention of Dorian holding any , because he's not you're ignorant plain & simple

muscle mag specifically mention how in 94 dorian's once "etched" lower back had "filled and flattened somewhat"

I know you will fight tooth and nail to contiue clinging to this delusional fantasy that dorian was bone dry in 1994, but the truth is, he was most certainly not.

hell, one quick glance at shawn compared to dorian is all you need to see that dorian was a little watery in 94, and it was shawn that was bone dry:



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