Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NarcissisticDeity]

Not a single ounce of water or fat in these arms anyone who claims otherwise will have their ignorance corrected and exposed , Dorian's ARMS like the rest of his physique is bone dry & rock hard ! you people will learn by the numbers I teach you 

[Bear]

No Dorian's midsection didn't grown and his arms didn't shrink one bicep was shorter than the other and again McGough said 95 was his peak form , what part of that did you miss? 

You can't deny his back and midsection have more detail thats obvious and and Ronnie does NOT beat Dorian in terms of definition of the pecs , delts , arms , glutes , quads and hamstrings thats ALL a blanjket statement thats been address , corrected and dismissed , you're grasping at straws when you think one has more visible lines in his chest and ass as better definition , its about who has less body fat and water and thats Dorian , Ronnie may have come close on occasion 98/01 but he's never been 260 pounds bone dry & rock hard thats a fact jack 

And how the hell can I be dead wrong about Ronnie only showing better separation in his rectus femoris ? Dorian clearly has separated vatus lateralis , vatus medialis , Ronnie does show better separation of the rectus femoris , Dorian shows better separation of the satorius , and tensor fasciae latae and which one of these muscles does Ronnie show betters separation in? besides what I stated? NONE he shows equal or better separation and Ronnie HAD cross-striations in his quads in 1996 , when was the last time he showed those? and that has zero to do with separation of the muscles of the upper legs and striations are genetic and to top it off NOT always an accurate gauge of muscle hardness & dryness so , keep clinging on to your straws and blanket statements you need them .

We've had this before, try telling Muntzer that striations aren't important. They're not necessarily indicative of superior conditioning as such, since some people are cursed never to have extreme definition and separation (!), but striations are certainly a product of mature muscle and excellent development. DETAIL had value on a bodybuilding stage. Do not refute this, it is pointless.

[Hulkster]

keep in mind that ND does not understand the concept of physical attributes in bodybuilding.

he looks at Andreas Munzer, who never won anything, and says that because of this, striations are not important.

He looks at Flex who was very shapely, but never beat dorian and undermines shape.

he looks at 260 pound dorian, who was not as striated overall as Ronnie, and says striations are not important.

however, he fails to make the connection that a 260 pound Ronnie WITH STRIATIONS AND BETTER SHAPE with sufficient conditioning is something that would beat dorian handily.

the dorian side has never ever understood that physical attributes are not judged in isolation.

they work TOGETHER to create an overall effect.

they still do not understand this concept...

[Hulkster]

and Ronnie does NOT beat Dorian in terms of definition of the pecs , delts , arms , glutes , quads and hamstrings thats ALL a blanjket statement thats been address , corrected and dismissed

what the FUCK are you talking about?

 

[Hulkster]

what the FUCK are you talking about?

 

 

doesn't beat dorian in quad detail?

sure...

[pobrecito]

keep in mind that ND does not understand the concept of physical attributes in bodybuilding.

he looks at Andreas Munzer, who never won anything, and says that because of this, striations are not important.

He looks at Flex who was very shapely, but never beat dorian and undermines shape.

he looks at 260 pound dorian, who was not as striated overall as Ronnie, and says striations are not important.

however, he fails to make the connection that a 260 pound Ronnie WITH STRIATIONS AND BETTER SHAPE with sufficient conditioning is something that would beat dorian handily.

the dorian side has never ever understood that physical attributes are not judged in isolation.

they work TOGETHER to create an overall effect.

they still do not understand this concept...

What you don't seem to understand is that a 260lb Ronnie does not equal a 260lb Dorian. Rather, Ronnie in Dorian's shape is roughly 244-247lbs (2001AC). That is why Yates would win....advantage in muscularity and condition

[Hulkster]

doesn't beat Ronnie in delt arm and pec detail?

sure...

[Hulkster]

LOL dorian has better glute and ham detail ?

sure...

[Hulkster]

ND has no fucking clue what he is talking about.

just look at how I have owned him lately.

he doesn't even look at pics anymore, he just types the same bullshit over and over again with no regard to whether or not it is even correct or not...

[Hulkster]

What you don't seem to understand is that a 260lb Ronnie does not equal a 260lb Dorian. Rather, Ronnie in Dorian's shape is roughly 244-247lbs (2001AC). That is why Yates would win....advantage in muscularity and condition

you are just as bad as ND.

you keep saying this without even bothering to notice that ALL of the shots I posted with Ronnie showing better definition in the areas that ND claims were 'blanket statements" were from the 1999 Olympia with Ronnie at 257 pounds.

NOT the Arnold Classic...

you should know. this is part of why you argue that Ronnie 1999 is the greatest ever.

its not because he was soft at this weight...

[pobrecito]

Ronnie has never matched any of these:

[Hulkster]

and dorian has never matched these, even in his contrast enhancing black and white gym shots....








can you imagine what these shots would have looked like with an expert photographer with great shadows and black and white photography?

 

they would have put Doughian's to shame...

[Hulkster]

I find it really amusing that Pubic has been reduced to simply posting a bunch of pics and saying that Ronnie has 'never matched these' (even though in actual fact he has far suprassed them) and ND simply repeats his cliche garbage about "density, balance proportion, size conditioning' that has yet to be validated in a single area other than the midsection and lower back...

I guess thats what 10 months of owning will do ....

[pobrecito]

Those screencaps are shit...they are so far away they would even make Kamali look good

[Hulkster]

LOL

[Hulkster]

Those screencaps are shit...they are so far away they would even make Kamali look good

what a troll.
 
you should really read some of your past comments about these shots...

[pobrecito]

Nope, they are so small and far away they would make anyone look good.

Also, Hulkster doesn't even lift weights. LOL.

[NeoSeminole]

and dorian has never matched these, even in his contrast enhancing black and white gym shots....

can you imagine what these shots would have looked like with an expert photographer with great shadows and black and white photography?



they would have put Doughian's to shame...

don't forget this shot from that series.

[pobrecito]

Damn, Ronnie really got crazy with the calf implant/synthol injection here 

Too bad the calves are uneven and the right calf sticks out 1" farther than the left

[NarcissisticDeity]

don't forget this shot from that series.

Same poor balance & proportion , same lack of world class density , same lack out Yates' type conditioning , he's big certainly he is still lacking.

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND has no fucking clue what he is talking about.

just look at how I have owned him lately.

he doesn't even look at pics anymore, he just types the same bullshit over and over again with no regard to whether or not it is even correct or not...

The only owning you've done is self-owning  you've melted down over and over again , you've yet to prove any of my points wrong , you have NO one backing up your claim that Ronnie had better balance & proportion , better density , better conditioning , you've done nothing lol

[NarcissisticDeity]

What you don't seem to understand is that a 260lb Ronnie does not equal a 260lb Dorian. Rather, Ronnie in Dorian's shape is roughly 244-247lbs (2001AC). That is why Yates would win....advantage in muscularity and condition

Great post ! whenever Ronnie had Dorian-type conditioning he was real small , he could NEVER pull it off at 260 pounds

[NarcissisticDeity]

We've had this before, try telling Muntzer that striations aren't important. They're not necessarily indicative of superior conditioning as such, since some people are cursed never to have extreme definition and separation (!), but striations are certainly a product of mature muscle and excellent development. DETAIL had value on a bodybuilding stage. Do not refute this, it is pointless.

Striations NEVER won a single contest for Munzer so they mean dick , and many guys had more striations than Dorian yet they did zero for them , the high water mark for conditioning is thinness of the skin , hardness of muscles and the overall dryness and Yates at 260 pounds hasn't been matched and he has plenty of striations of his own

[Hulkster]

Striations NEVER won a single contest for Munzer so they mean dick

see what I mean?

no concept what so ever....

 

[NeoSeminole]

Same poor balance & proportion , same lack of world class density , same lack out Yates' type conditioning , he's big certainly he is still lacking.

oh what a load of bullshit. You will say anything to undermine Ronnie's physique. He looks perfectly balanced and proportionate in that shot. His arms are balanced with is calves, and his waist is small and trim. Ronnie's thighs may be slightly too big for his calves but it's not as noticeable as other years. I don't care if you think he lacks Dorian's "density." To me, he looks just as dense as those B&W shots of Dorian. Ronnie's quads look like you can grate cheese on them while Dorian's are good for maybe rolling dough.