Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[monstermunch]

I would of agreed to disagree on page 10.... 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Well, this pic you have posted many times single handedly crushes your ignorance. The pic says it all.

He has no loose skin? Yeah, and pigs can fly.

Same contest where would the loose skin , fat , and water be ? Hmmmmmm gee lets see how could it magically disappear? 

[Iceman1981]

The irony is how can he possibly have loose skin in his lower lats and lower back and yet in a pose that highlights lower lat and lower back detail it be 100% tight ! its impossible.

Oh, it's possible you dick.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Oh, it's possible you dick.

No its not you're ignorant its muscle its erector spinae and his lower lats unflexed same contest unflexed erector spinae and lower lats ' hanging ' learn before you type , Dorian 1995 was done dry and rock hard as a human bodybuilder can be 

[Iceman1981]

No in fact I'm not clueless , I'm not the one claiming an oxymoron  I'm not claiming he has loose skin , fat and water in his lower lats and lower back that magically tightens up in moments lol you really , really played yourself with this comment and the sheep who followed you did as well !

skin can't be both ' loose ' and tight thats an oxymoron .

Show me where I said yates has water or fat in the CRUNCH POSE? It can't be done because I never said that. However, I did say yates has loose skin in his lower back in the REAR LATSPREAD.

Explain the pic genius. By the way why are you running from this pic? I asked you to circle the part of the lower back you are looking at:

[Iceman1981]

Same contest where would the loose skin , fat , and water be ? Hmmmmmm gee lets see how could it magically disappear? 

It's a different pose moron. That is what you don't get. I never said he has loose skin in the crunch pose. I said yates has loose skin in the rear latspread. It's totally different. Different poses causes the skin to look different in each pose. Like this:

[NarcissisticDeity]

Show me where I said yates has water or fat in the CRUNCH POSE? It can't be done because I never said that. However, I did say yates has loose skin in his lower back in the REAR LATSPREAD.

Explain the pic genius. By the way why are you running from this pic? I asked you to circle the part of the lower back you are looking at:

I don't need to run from anything , again its IMPOSSIBLE for Yates to be holding water , loose skin and fat in his lower back in ONE pose and not the other IMPOSSIBLE , it doesn't matter if you said he only has it in one pose its stupid to say he has it in ONE and not another , he can't have fat , water or loose skin in his lower back and lats and it turns tight in the exact same areas in another , you keep digging yourself deeper into the hole of ignorance

[Iceman1981]

No its not you're ignorant its muscle its erector spinae and his lower lats unflexed same contest unflexed erector spinae and lower lats ' hanging ' learn before you type , Dorian 1995 was done dry and rock hard as a human bodybuilder can be 

You have admitted you posted this pic many times and you have never said he is not flexing. Now the past few days you say he is not flexing? LOL, we all know yates is fully flexing in this pic.

So now you're posting a relaxed shot of yates. Still doesn't prove anything.

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's a different pose moron. That is what you don't get. I never said he has loose skin in the crunch pose. I said yates has loose skin in the rear latspread. It's totally different. Different poses causes the skin to look different in each pose. Like this:

it doesn't matter , he can't have loose skin , water or fat in a specific area and be gone in the exact same area in another pose , impossible if the skin is loose its loose it CAN NOT be tight at the same time , oxymoron .

[suckmymuscle]

yawn, arguing with you is a waste of time b/c you are clearly a retard who thinks he's smart. I'm just entertaining your nonsense that Dorian had a grainy appearance. To me, he looks very smooth and puffy.

  Yeah, that's probably the reason why you demanded that I reply to you, huh? So I'm a retard? Funny, because I make you look stupid every time we argue. I have already corrected you several times and made you look like an idiot. To quote someone, I gave you the "most clear-cut ownage in the entire thread". And even if I'm a retard, it doesen't matter, because I'm clearly smarter than you, so I win anyway.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

You have admitted you posted this pic many times and you have never said he is not flexing. Now the past few days you say he is not flexing? LOL, we all know yates is fully flexing in this pic.

So now you're posting a relaxed shot of yates. Still doesn't prove anything.

That has nothing to do with anything , who cares if he's not fully flexed or he is , either way its NOT loose skin , and the relaxed shot shows his erector spinae and lower lats ' hanging ' doesn't mean its loose , or he's holding fat or water .

[Iceman1981]

I don't need to run from anything , again its IMPOSSIBLE for Yates to be holding water , loose skin and fat in his lower back in ONE pose and not the other IMPOSSIBLE , it doesn't matter if you said he only has it in one pose its stupid to say he has it in ONE and not another , he can't have fat , water or loose skin in his lower back and lats and it turns tight in the exact same areas in another , you keep digging yourself deeper into the hole of ignorance

It's possible he has loose skin and here is my proof. I don't need a quote like your dumb ass to tell me something. I look and see for myself. Verdict: HE HAS LOOSE SKIN HANGING

[NarcissisticDeity]

It's possible he has loose skin and here is my proof. I don't need a quote like your dumb ass to tell me something. I look and see for myself. Verdict: HE HAS LOOSE SKIN HANGING

Its NOT loose skin hanging its muscle period ! he can't hold water in a specific area and it not be in the exact same area in another pose , IMPOSSIBLE you're among the dumbest people on this thread by far !

[Iceman1981]

That has nothing to do with anything , who cares if he's not fully flexed or he is , either way its NOT loose skin , and the relaxed shot shows his erector spinae and lower lats ' hanging ' doesn't mean its loose , or he's holding fat or water .

You just said "who cares if he's not fully flexed or he is" and claim to know alot about bodybuilding, LOL. You know he has loose skin hanging. It's eating you up inside everytime you see this pic. Just be a man (if that's possible) and admit something for once. We all see you're running from this pic because it shows his flaws.

[Iceman1981]

Its NOT loose skin hanging its muscle period ! he can't hold water in a specific area and it not be in the exact same area in another pose , IMPOSSIBLE you're among the dumbest people on this thread by far !

I provide my argument with many pics and many people that say the samething about his loose skin hanging and I'm dumb? You reply with a stupid answer everytime and post a different pose. LOL, look who's calling me dumb. I've proved you wrong on this topic. All you could do is avoid the pics and direct question like you always do.

[NarcissisticDeity]

You just said "who cares if he's not fully flexed or he is" and claim to know alot about bodybuilding, LOL. You know he has loose skin hanging. It's eating you up inside everytime you see this pic. Just be a man (if that's possible) and admit something for once. We all see you're running from this pic because it shows his flaws.

You're claiming he has loose hanging skin , insanely ignorant stance you're claiming his conditioning is a flaw lol you're claiming that Dorian's Yates 1995 which has been described as one of his best showings of his career had flawed conditioning , do you realize how stupid you sound? do you realize how little you really know? lmfao

Kid you have much to learn about competitive bodybuilding and physique assessment . do some reading .

[NarcissisticDeity]

I provide my argument with many pics and many people that say the samething about his loose skin hanging and I'm dumb? You reply with a stupid answer everytime and post a different pose. LOL, look who's calling me dumb. I've proved you wrong on this topic. All you could do is avoid the pics and direct question like you always do.

No you most certainly have NOT proven me wrong , you've yet to prove how his skin in a specific area can be both loose and tight , its an oxymoron , he absolutely cannot have loose skin water and fat in his lowerlats and lower back in one pose and not have it in another , it's just an impossibility , you've proven one thing alright ............how ignorant you are. 

[suckmymuscle]

no, I quote the parts of your posts that warrant a response.

  No, you leave out the parts that you know you can't reply to because I'm right. Like when I demanded you to reply to my undeniable proof that Ronnie carried less mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 1999 Olympia, and the most you could muster was to reply that "you're probably right". Or when I demonstrated to you that your retarded assertion that genetics plays no role in separations was wrong. Or when you said that what McGough said was irrelevant because it was before the 2001 ASC, and then I told you that he said it in 2006. Or worse, when you said that acne causes grain to a higher degree when one is lower in bodyfat and water, thus admitting that grain is at least partially the result of low fat and water levels - you really took the cake in stupidity on that one! You're not fooling anyone sport. But then I don't really need to tell you this, right? You know that you got owned, which is exactly the reason why you remain silent.

I didn't address your comment b/c it's irrelevant. I doubt these bodybuilders in question had Dorian's level of conditioning. So the effect wouldn't be as pronounced. Furthermore, you are guilty of the same thing you accuse me of. You failed to address my point that some bodybuilders who had equal, if not better, conditioning than Dorian didn't have a "grainy" appearance.

  Your assertion that acne causes a grainier appearance when one has lower fat and water was retarded. Period. A fat guy with acne does not look any grainier than a skinny one with acne. You said that the grain was the result of acne, and I proved you wrong by showing that other bodybuilders with acne  do not look grainy. Saying that it doesen't show grain because they are not low in and water is an admission of defeat on your part, because it means that you're admitting that Dorian's grainy appearance was partially due to the fact that he was formidably low in at and water. Loser.

why does Branch Warren look grainy while others with better conditioning don't? You ask me these dumb questions. To be honest, I don't even know what the hell you're talking about. Dorian doesn't look grainy to me. His arms, delts, pecs, glutes, quads and hamstrings all look smooth to me. I'm just entertaining your nonsense.

  Warren doesen't look grainy. Hope this helps. Dorian at the 1995 Olympia was at his grainiest, and he had very little body acne. Dorian is grainy because his skin is dry and his muscle show incredible hardness because of it. And by the way, Andreas Munzer was grainy.

What the f*ck kind of lame threat is that? Only a fagg*t like you can rationalize how I'm a bitch for not wanting to enter an online bodybuilding contest that I had no intentions of entering in the first place. And for any reply you might have for this one, I'm going to quote you: "excuses, excuses."

  It was you who challenged me to post pics of myself, and then called me a bitch for not postig them. So I challenged you to to actually entger an online competition where the pics would be judged by impartial judges. And what do you do? You weasel out. For the record, I was just accepting your challenge, you internet loser.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pobrecito]

sorry, wrong back pic.

I'll try again:

Yates wins that comparison hands down.

Everything just flows better on his physique.

Plus, it is complete, unlike Ronnie's.

[pobrecito]

Seriously, this back double biceps just blows my mind, there is not a single flaw. Plus, the flow of Dorian's entire backside is just outstanding.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Seriously, this back double biceps just blows my mind, there is not a single flaw. Plus, the flow of Dorian's entire backside is just outstanding.

You're right thats a complete head to toe back double bicep shot , textbook perfect .

[Hulkster]

Cant you see the loose skin? Are you blind? These are serious questions. You are really annoying.

and he is apparently really delusional and stupid too.

it is not an oxymoron ND.

it is REALITY:

open your fucking eyes for once:

one shot shows wrinkles.

the other does not.

its does not mean that the wrinkles do not exist in the first one!

[Hulkster]

Seriously, this back double biceps just blows my mind, there is not a single flaw. Plus, the flow of Dorian's entire backside is just outstanding.

it is a great double bi.

however, Ronnie's is still far better from the knees up, even if the calves are a flaw.

being more complete is not always good enough if someone has the majority of areas being far superior:

why do you think Ronnie has won so many contests with a 4 pack of abs?

[NeoSeminole]

it is a great double bi.

however, Ronnie's is still far better from the knees up, even if the calves are a flaw.

being more complete is not always good enough if someone has the majority of areas being far superior:

why do you think Ronnie has won so many contests with a 4 pack of abs?

exactly, the Dorian nuthuggers believe that balance outweighs superior muscular bulk, definition, and shape. Talk about bias.

[The Heckler]

  No, you leave out the parts that you know you can't reply to because I'm right. Like when I demanded you to reply to my undeniable proof that Ronnie carried less mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 1999 Olympia, and the most you could muster was to reply that "you're probably right". Or when I demonstrated to you that your retarded assertion that genetics plays no role in separations was wrong. Or when you said that what McGough said was irrelevant because it was before the 2001 ASC, and then I told you that he said it in 2006. Or worse, when you said that acne causes grain to a higher degree when one is lower in bodyfat and water, thus admitting that grain is at least partially the result of low fat and water levels - you really took the cake in stupidity on that one! You're not fooling anyone sport. But then I don't really need to tell you this, right? You know that you got owned, which is exactly the reason why you remain silent.

  Your assertion that acne causes a grainier appearance when one has lower fat and water was retarded. Period. A fat guy with acne does not look any grainier than a skinny one with acne. You said that the grain was the result of acne, and I proved you wrong by showing that other bodybuilders with acne  do not look grainy. Saying that it doesen't show grain because they are not low in and water is an admission of defeat on your part, because it means that you're admitting that Dorian's grainy appearance was partially due to the fact that he was formidably low in at and water. Loser.

  Warren doesen't look grainy. Hope this helps. Dorian at the 1995 Olympia was at his grainiest, and he had very little body acne. Dorian is grainy because his skin is dry and his muscle show incredible hardness because of it. And by the way, Andreas Munzer was grainy.

  It was you who challenged me to post pics of myself, and then called me a bitch for not postig them. So I challenged you to to actually entger an online competition where the pics would be judged by impartial judges. And what do you do? You weasel out. For the record, I was just accepting your challenge, you internet loser.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

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