Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

You can't have it both ways sport either she is 100% right ( using your logic ) all the time or she's wrong , and again I can play both games with you , if you want to use right/left exactness than NEITHER of them are perfect in this regard , and I can still use Dorian 1993 uninjured if you still want to knitpick the torn bicep , Dorian still has the massive advantage in BALANCE & PROPORTION and he still has a better OVERALL body flow and he doesn't have a relatively short torso and long legs like Ronnie , so either way you have nothing to work with

utter bullshit. If you quoted a judge who explained what they look for in a physique, and they said Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time, I wouldn't hold you accountable for their latter comment. I know the difference between fact and opinion.

[Iceman1981]

Look at the skin just sagging on his lower back. I show you pics and what do you show me? LOL nothing. You have a weak argument, actually you have no argument. You're pathetic. You can argue all you want against me, but you can't argue and deny the pics. I'll leave your dumba$ with these pics to think about.

[NarcissisticDeity]

utter bullshit. If you quoted a judge who explained what they look for in a physique, and they said Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time, I wouldn't hold you accountable for their latter comment. I know the difference between fact and opinion.

Hypocrite  you're full of it and we both know it ! you said you have to agree with with ALL or nothing and you've constantly posted McGough's OPINION That Ronnie would be unbeatable , now you're fucked because you're cherry-picking what Francis said and discarding the rest classic hyporcrite

[NarcissisticDeity]

Look at the skin just sagging on his lower back. I show you pics and what do you show me? LOL nothing. You have a weak argument, actually you have no argument. You're pathetic. You can argue all you want against me, but you can't argue and deny the pics. I'll leave your dumba$ with these pics to think about.

How can he have loose skin under muscle , please elaborate on this 

[Iceman1981]

UNDER THOSE MUSCLES ARE THE LOOSE SKIN IDIOT ! you said he has loose skin under his muscles , I know you really , really wished you didn't type this but you did , no one is talking about ' under his skin ' stay with your own argument even though you wished you never typed it .

You said under skin, not me. Anyone would see that I'm talking about the loose skin on his lower back except a moron like you. What the fuck do you think I've been saying all along? You think I can see underneath his skin and muscles? No one can, so why the hell would you even think that.  By the way, show me where I said "under his skin"

[NarcissisticDeity]

Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .

Neo in case you missed it , I guess you'll have to amend your claim ' his twig arms ruin everything '

[NarcissisticDeity]

You said under skin, not me. Anyone would see that I'm talking about the loose skin on his lower back except a moron like you. What the fuck do you think I've been saying all along? You think I can see underneath his skin and muscles? No one can, so why the hell would you even think that.  By the way, show me where I said "under his skin"

YOU TYPED he has loose skin under muscle , this statement shined a spotlight on your ignorance NO kidding you can't see under his muscles lol

please explain how he has loose skin under his muscles 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Added Rockell: Dorian had a SLIGHT injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. He was just so dense it made no overall difference. Paul's major deficiencies were in his back : not enough muscularity for his large frame. also basic stamina throughout was in question ; during call-outs , he was breathing heavy and bending over.

Neo you have to agree with an IFBB judge that Dorian's torn bicep HAD NO OVERALL difference , hence why he won the symmetry round with a perfect score 

[NeoSeminole]

Hypocrite you're full of it and we both know it ! you said you have to agree with with ALL or nothing and you've constantly posted McGough's OPINION That Ronnie would be unbeatable , now you're fucked because you're cherry-picking what Francis said and discarding the rest classic hyporcrite

how am I a hypocrite when I just said that I wouldn't hold you accountable for everything that a person said. Unlike you, I know that personal opinion is fallible while fact isn't.

[NeoSeminole]

Added Rockell: Dorian had a SLIGHT injury but as far as I'm concerned , it had NO bearing whatsoever. He was just so dense it made no overall difference. Paul's major deficiencies were in his back : not enough muscularity for his large frame. also basic stamina throughout was in question ; during call-outs , he was breathing heavy and bending over.

Neo you have to agree with an IFBB judge that Dorian's torn bicep HAD NO OVERALL difference , hence why he won the symmetry round with a perfect score

I don't give a shit what Rockell said. According to your logic, Ronnie's calves obviously don't matter b/c he still received straight firsts at the Mr. Olympia. Dorian's torn bicep may not have been a liability against a 200 lbs Shawn Ray or no-back Paul Dillet, but they would certainly be a disadvantage against a prime Ronnie.

[NarcissisticDeity]

how am I a hypocrite when I just said that I wouldn't hold you accountable for everything that a person said. Unlike you, I know that personal opinion is fallible while fact isn't.

No no its YOU who constantly posted McGough's opinion as proof Ronnie would beat Dorian , and you're a hypocrite specifically because you said that If I agree with McGough's quotes I have to agree with them ALL and that means that Ronnie 2001 would be unbeatable and then you cling onto Franics' word when it suits you and when it doesn't you dismiss it , that makes you a hypocrite  have a nice day.

[NeoSeminole]

No no its YOU who constantly posted McGough's opinion as proof Ronnie would beat Dorian , and you're a hypocrite specifically because you said that If I agree with McGough's quotes I have to agree with them ALL and that means that Ronnie 2001 would be unbeatable and then you cling onto Franics' word when it suits you and when it doesn't you dismiss it , that makes you a hypocrite have a nice day.

yes, I posted his opinion b/c I agree with him. If I used some of his quotes and disagreed with others, then I would be a hypocrite. However, posting facts is entirely different. Arguing who is better is not the same as saying "2 + 2 = 4." I would expect you to be smart enough to realize the difference. Sadly, I overestimated your capabilities.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I don't give a shit what Rockell said. According to your logic, Ronnie's calves obviously don't matter b/c he still received straight firsts at the Mr. Olympia. Dorian's torn bicep may not have been a liability against a 200 lbs Shawn Ray or no-back Paul Dillet, but they would certainly be a disadvantage against a prime Ronnie.

See now you're picking & choosing what quotes from what judges you want and once again USING YOUR DUMB LOGIC you have to agree with ALL or none  every pro Dorian quote is dismissed and every quote you THINK favor's your opinion is right you're a hypocrite , and it all leads us back to Dorian's obvious advantages in balance & proportion , density , bulk ( depending on the year ) and conditioning ( depending on the year )

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes, I posted his opinion b/c I agree with him. If I used some of his quotes and disagreed with others, then I would be a hypocrite. However, posting facts is entirely different. Arguing who is better is not the same as saying "2 + 2 = 4." I would expect you to be smart enough to realize the difference. Sadly, I overestimated your capabilities.

No Neo what makes you a hypocrite is you specifically said you have to agree with ALL or none and then you go one to cherry pick what you like and dismiss the rest , you can't have it both ways Neo

[NeoSeminole]

See now you're picking & choosing what quotes from what judges you want and once again USING YOUR DUMB LOGIC you have to agree with ALL or none every pro Dorian quote is dismissed and every quote you THINK favor's your opinion is right you're a hypocrite , and it all leads us back to Dorian's obvious advantages in balance & proportion , density , bulk ( depending on the year ) and conditioning ( depending on the year )

you're damn right I'm choosing which quotes I accept. If Dorian has a torn bicep and torn quads for f*cks sake yet a judge says he has "almost perfect symmetry. No weak body parts" then of course I'm going to disagree. Maybe she was referring to his pre-tear form. If so, then I'll agree with her.

[NarcissisticDeity]

you're damn right I'm choosing which quotes I accept. If Dorian has a torn bicep and torn quads for f*cks sake yet a judge says he has "almost perfect symmetry. No weak body parts" then of course I'm going to disagree. Maybe she was referring to his pre-tear form. If so, then I'll agree with her.

NO Neo its perfectly okay for you to disagree I could care less HOWEVER you said its ALL or nothing this makes you a hypocrite I'm sure you agree?

[NeoSeminole]

No Neo what makes you a hypocrite is you specifically said you have to agree with ALL or none and then you go one to cherry pick what you like and dismiss the rest , you can't have it both ways Neo

I was referring to his/her opinions. It's understood that facts are true regardless of who they came from. I'm surprised that I have to explain this to you.

[Hulkster]

I think ND is the dumbest poster on all of getbig.

I mean, here he is denying that dorian has loose, sagging skin, when there are tons of pics showing that he in fact, DOES:

 

it doesn't matter if he is not supposed to because he is dry. the fact is that he DOES. Period. end of sentence.

and he shows it across all years too.

what a blind, delusional, denying fool.

then again, should we really be suprised?

ND has been denying the obivous dominace of peak ronnie over peak dorian for 1000+ pages now.

how is this latest denial any different?

[Hulkster]

you're damn right I'm choosing which quotes I accept. If Dorian has a torn bicep and torn quads for f*cks sake yet a judge says he has "almost perfect symmetry. No weak body parts" then of course I'm going to disagree. Maybe she was referring to his pre-tear form. If so, then I'll agree with her.

what about the judge who referred to dorian's bloated, torn blobs for quads in 1994 as 'the best legs in the show'.

must have been the same judge who claimed that the missing bi doesn't affect symmetry...

then again, the judge wants to keep his job...what uncle joe wants said, gets said

[NarcissisticDeity]

I was referring to his/her opinions. It's understood that facts are true regardless of who they came from. I'm surprised that I have to explain this to you.

No , you posted Peter McGough's OPINION and stated we have to agree with ALL or none , now you cherry-pick Francis ' opinion ' and dismiss it as such NOW once again if you agree that they take into consideration left/right YOU ( according to your logic ) have to agree that Dorian has near perfect symmetry , its all or none and the quote was made in 1995 post-tear !

[Hulkster]

ND, lets cut all your bullshit for a minute.

there are 5 pics on this page alone showing tons of loose hanging skin on dorian's lower back in the rear lats spread.

now, what exactly are you saying that it is?

are you saying that it is really not there?

its one thing to say that it SHOULDN'T be there.

that we can all agree on.

but the FACTS are that it IS.

so, deal with it.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I think ND is the dumbest poster on all of getbig.

I mean, here he is denying that dorian has loose, sagging skin, when there are tons of pics showing that he in fact, DOES:

 

it doesn't matter if he is not supposed to because he is dry. the fact is that he DOES. Period. end of sentence.

and he shows it across all years too.

what a blind, delusional, denying fool.

then again, should we really be suprised?

ND has been denying the obivous dominace of peak ronnie over peak dorian for 1000+ pages now.

how is this latest denial any different?

hands down you are the dumbest poster of the history of the internet lol Shawn Ray's calves are better than Dorians lol that alone sealed your fate now just couple that with the rest of your ' assessments ' lol my case if soundly proven. 

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND, lets cut all your bullshit for a minute.

there are 5 pics on this page alone showing tons of loose hanging skin on dorian's lower back in the rear lats spread.

now, what exactly are you saying that it is?

are you saying that it is really not there?

its one thing to say that it SHOULDN'T be there.

that we can all agree on.

but the FACTS are that it IS.

so, deal with it.

None of it is ' loose skin , water or fat ' its pure muscle , he cannot be holding loose skin , fat and water in a specific area and have it be gone in another pose , IMPOSSIBLE he can't be both tight and loose thats an oxymoron .

[Hulkster]

I don't give a shit what Rockell said. According to your logic, Ronnie's calves obviously don't matter b/c he still received straight firsts at the Mr. Olympia. Dorian's torn bicep may not have been a liability against a 200 lbs Shawn Ray or no-back Paul Dillet, but they would certainly be a disadvantage against a prime Ronnie.

very true:

[NarcissisticDeity]

very true:

LMFAO he wasted this