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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26325 on: March 11, 2007, 05:05:42 PM »
Ronnie did not have 'gigantic' glutes at his peak form of around 250-260.

look at the difference between that and his 300 pound look:


I can crush your ignorance without effort  ;) its big and it sticks way out that hurts SYMMETRY

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26326 on: March 11, 2007, 05:05:59 PM »
how exactly is 03 Ronnie's symmetry much worse than Dorian's? Ronnie has better left-right symmetry and his upper body is balanced with his lower body except for his calves.

Maybe you missed it, but Arnold said EVERYTHING was ruined by poor calves.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26327 on: March 11, 2007, 05:07:02 PM »
Ronnie's calves just look very odd in this shot.


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26328 on: March 11, 2007, 05:09:18 PM »
Maybe you missed it, but Arnold said EVERYTHING was ruined by poor calves.

riiiiiiiiight, that's why Ronnie received straight firsts that year. I could understand if maybe he lost a few points for his calves, but he didn't. So obviously they didn't ruin "everything" like you say. ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26329 on: March 11, 2007, 05:10:16 PM »
riiiiiiiiight, that's why Ronnie received straight firsts that year. I could understand if he lost a few points for his calves, but he didn't. So obviously they didn't ruin "everything" like you say. ;)

I didn't "say it"...Arnold did.

That is the problem with you guys, you discount anything any credible person has to say unless it favors your argument.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26330 on: March 11, 2007, 05:15:07 PM »
I didn't "say it"...Arnold did.

That is the problem with you guys, you discount anything any credible person has to say unless it favors your argument.

bwahahahahah, sure. I dare you to show me where Arnold said that's Ronnie calves ruined his entire physique.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26331 on: March 11, 2007, 05:15:16 PM »
how exactly is 03 Ronnie's symmetry much worse than Dorian's? Ronnie has better left-right symmetry and his upper body is balanced with his lower body except for his calves.

Same problems , please spare me the right/left exactness nonsense thats not what they mean by symmetry , NO ONES Arms , quads and calves all measure the exact same , and His upper and lower body are not balanced his legs are long and his torso is relatively short thats NOT balance , his quads are insanely massive and his calves are NOT bad proportion and lower leg balance , same supersized biceps/triceps and forearms lagging behind in proportion , glutes at their all time biggest , sticking WAY  way out lol and in profile his quads are so massive and broad his hams lag behind in balance , depending in the pose his lack of balance & proportion is clearly evident , side chest the overdeveloped front & side delts , hams/quads and calves in profile , biceps/triceps making his delts look small in comparison in the back double biceps shot , in the front double biceps shot the quads dominate the calves , glutes can be seen from the front , biceps/triceps making the forearms look like sticks same relatively short torso etc , his SYMMETRY in 2003 is garbage , garbage for him compared to lighter showings and garbage compared to Yates , who according to Francis was almost perfect.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26332 on: March 11, 2007, 05:16:36 PM »
Maybe you missed it, but Arnold said EVERYTHING was ruined by poor calves.

in case you missed it, Ronnie won 8 mr. O's , an Arnold Classic and almost twice as many pro wins as dorian ever did with a set of shitty calves.
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26333 on: March 11, 2007, 05:16:49 PM »
bwahahahahah, sure. I dare you to show me where Arnold said that's Ronnie calves ruined his entire physique.

Neo its guys like Ronnie that Arnold was referring to , you know when they flex their calves NOTHING happens , he didn't mention Ronnie's name but it most certainly applies.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26334 on: March 11, 2007, 05:18:31 PM »
riiiiiiiiight, that's why Ronnie received straight firsts that year. I could understand if maybe he lost a few points for his calves, but he didn't. So obviously they didn't ruin "everything" like you say. ;)

Using YOUR logic ( once again  ;) ) Dorian recieved straight firsts in EVERY single one of his Olympia wins , so every flaw you said Dorian has didn't ' ruin ' everything like you say  ;) you know like the torn bicep  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26335 on: March 11, 2007, 05:20:24 PM »
in case you missed it, Ronnie won 8 mr. O's , an Arnold Classic and almost twice as many pro wins as dorian ever did with a set of shitty calves.

lmfao twice as many pro wins yet just a 40% win ratio and Dorian 88% and that Arnold classic victory almost cost him his Olympia title lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26336 on: March 11, 2007, 05:27:04 PM »
Using YOUR logic ( once again ) ) Dorian recieved straight firsts in EVERY single one of his Olympia wins , so every flaw you said Dorian has didn't ' ruin ' everything like you say you know like the torn bicep

I personally don't think Dorian's flaws "ruined" his physique. If I said that, it was only to parody the Dorian nuthuggers' retarded claims that Ronnie's calves ruined everything. I do believe that Dorian's torn bicep and wide midsection were a liability. They may not have been much of a disadvantage against a 200 lbs Shawn Ray or no-back Paul Dillet, but they would present a problem against a prime Ronnie who had both the size and back to compete with Dorian. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that Ronnie's calves aren't a liability either. However, I'd say that a torn muscle is worse than merely having an imbalanced muscle group. Compare how many Mr. Olympians won with torn muscles to how many didn't have torn muscles. You get the idea.

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26337 on: March 11, 2007, 05:32:36 PM »
sagging skin part 1 

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26338 on: March 11, 2007, 05:33:27 PM »
sagging skin part 2

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26339 on: March 11, 2007, 05:34:10 PM »
sagging skin part 3

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26340 on: March 11, 2007, 05:34:58 PM »
sagging skin part 4

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26341 on: March 11, 2007, 05:38:24 PM »
I personally don't think Dorian's flaws "ruined" his physique. If I said that, it was only to parody the Dorian nuthuggers' retarded claims that Ronnie's calves ruined everything. I do believe that Dorian's torn bicep and wide midsection were a liability. They may not have been much of a disadvantage against a 200 lbs Shawn Ray or no-back Paul Dillet, but they would present a problem against a prime Ronnie who had both the size and back to compete with Dorian. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that Ronnie's calves aren't a liability either. However, I'd say that a torn muscle is worse than merely having an imbalanced muscle group. Compare how many Mr. Olympians won with torn muscles to how many didn't have torn muscles. You get the idea.

No Arnold Schwarzenegger claimed that if nothing happened when the calf was flexed the whole pose would be ruined , he didn't mentioned Ronnie's name but it very much applies to him , his calves are poor especially compared to Dorian , and you have a point maybe Dorian's torn bicep would be a liability compared to Ronnie at his best but Dorian didn't have a torn bicep in 1993 and his balance & proportion , density and again depending on the year , conditioning & bulk would be to much for Ronnie , remember Ronnie never faced ANYONE like Dorian Yates

and this guy had size and a back to compete with Dorian , so please don't make blanket statements

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26342 on: March 11, 2007, 05:40:33 PM »
sagging skin part 1 

lets see who disappears and then ' forced reps ' appears lol sagging skin lol again he CAN NOT both have loose skin and have it be tight in another pose , your logic is poor and you're just as ignorant one this account as you are under your other  ;)

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26343 on: March 11, 2007, 05:44:55 PM »
dear god dorian had an ugly physique.. :-\
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26344 on: March 11, 2007, 05:46:19 PM »
lets see who disappears and then ' forced reps ' appears lol sagging skin lol again he CAN NOT both have loose skin and have it be tight in another pose , your logic is poor and you're just as ignorant one this account as you are under your other  ;)

um...yes it can. the millions of pics are showing exactly that.

are you really that stupid?

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26345 on: March 11, 2007, 05:47:36 PM »
dear god dorian had an ugly physique.. :-\

Yes this is the aesthetic yardstick lol

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26346 on: March 11, 2007, 05:47:48 PM »
This my friends is graininess, density, and hardness :o


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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26347 on: March 11, 2007, 05:48:58 PM »
um...yes it can. the millions of pics are showing exactly that.

are you really that stupid?



hulkster they're showing wrinkles and his unflexed erector spinae and lower lats , again he can't have loose skin/water/fat in one pose and in the same area its gone IMPOSSIBLE

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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26348 on: March 11, 2007, 05:49:57 PM »
LOL
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Re: Hulkster I'm calling for a Truce
« Reply #26349 on: March 11, 2007, 05:53:11 PM »
Ronnie's rear delts fucking blow.