why did you apologize to PraetorFenix? I'm the one who called you out first. Everyone else then jumped on the bandwagon.
Because he supplied evidence, which you didn't. And why should I apologize to you? Have you apologized to me for all the times you've talked out of you ass and I corrected you? Have you apologized after I corrected you by proving that Ronnie carried more mass at the 1999 Olympia than at the 2001 ASC? Or after I demonstrated that separations are genetic by tearing down you argument? No, you have not. So bite me. And by the way, I'm still waiting for your apology about you being wrog that separations are not partially genetic. I proved you wrong and if you apologize for that, then I will consider givig you a apology for the rhomboid thing.
an obvious lie from you to fool any readers into believing you. I admitted that you are probably right about 99 Ronnie carrying more lean mass than at the 01 ASC.
And that means that you got owned. You know what an ownage is? It means to be proven wrong conclusively when you get into a pissing match, which is exatly what I did to you. Instead, you gave an euphemistic spin to the whole thing, arguing that I am "probably" right - I am definitely right -, and then trying to make it go away by pretending that it is not a big deal. It is a big deal when you insisted that you were right after I gave you the chance to ratify yourself and yet you isisted on your bullshit, and when the ownage is so clear-cut that it leaves no margin for discussion.
Peter McGough said that 01 ASC Ronnie is the best bodybuilder he's ever seen. Nowhere in the quote that I posted did he say Ronnie's conditioning is the best of all-time. This is why I asked you to post both quotes so I can know what the hell you are talking about. I think you just misinterpreted what Peter said.
Bullshit. We were arguing conditioning and nothing more. I posted that several bodybuilding writers have called Dorian the most conditioned bodybuilder ever, and you posted as a reply the quote from Peter McGough. In the context that we were arguing, you posted the quote to prove conditioning. Obviously, the part that mattered here is where he says that there has ever been a bodybuilder as
ripped as Coleman at the 2001 ASC. So don't give me this bullshit, because the argument we were having was about conditioning and not about who's the best bodybuilder overral and I replied to you by posting a quote from McGough from 2006 where he says that there has never been a bodybuilder as hard&dry as Dorian Yates. The quote came from FLEX editorial "Dorian's Delicate Condition", where Dorian talks about how he's not satisfied with the current level of conditioning, and Peter follows this with this quote:
"These words should not be taken lightly, because no bodybuilder has ever been as hard&dry as the man who won six Sandows." So you can get your quote about the 2001 ASC Ronnie and shove it, because it proves nothing since McGough contradicted himself. And for every quote you can find about Ronnie being the best ever at the 2001 ASC, I can fid several stating that Dorian was the hardest, grainiest, dryest and most conditioned bodybuilder ever.
another blatant lie to save face. Dorian's arms were more than half an inch smaller than 21".
If I'm lying, the you are too, because Ronnie's arms were never exactly 23" onstage either. In fact, the figures that I've seen for Coleman's arms indicate either 55 or 56 centimeters onstage at the 2003 Olympia. I have the German version of Muscle&Fitness and they mention Ronnie's arms at 56 centimeters flexed for the 2003 Olympia. 23" is 58.4 centimeters. The magazine where I saw Dorian's arms measurements for the 1993 Olympia list 52 centimeters, which is 1.3 centimeter short of 21". So in any case, Dorian's arm measurement is closer to 21" than Coleman's in his 2003 version is to 23". I rounded up the figures for both of them, even though I should not have rounded it up for Coleman because it was too far away from actually being 23". So, shut the fuck up and thank me for being so generous, because a real round-up for both of them would have been Dorian to 21" and Coleman to 22".
stop lying you pathetic little man behind a computer. I never said 01 ASC Ronnie carried more mass than 95 Dorian. If I did, then show me where and I will apologize.
Yes you did, you lier!
Now you are insane if you think that I'm going back through all of your posts to quote where you said that, especially considering that I'm sure you've edited it by now. You are in bad luck that I have an amazing photographic memory, and I can quote from memory everything you said. You most definitely
did say that, and I remember exactly the reasons why you gave for the 2001 ASC Ronnie carrying more mass than the 1995 Olympia Dorian:
- Ronnie's chest, delts and arms look bigger.
- Dorian's midsection is bigger.
- Dorian's bones are bigger.
- Ronnie is drier.
I'm willing to bet that more people here can recall that you said it. Instead of me trying to franctically search through posts of yours that are now edited and no longer exist as you originally wrote them, it will be much simpler to have a few posters corroborate me. I think that some mod, like Hedge, who has the files of unedited posts, or Ron, could check that out.
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