Funny because gh15's widely respected on here and says same as i. Bob Chick likewise no issues vs. Icecold proving yet again that he's clueless when it comes to BB and/or common sense. 
ANYTHING to divert from this-my guess is that Yates' 17s would tower over icecold's.
So what? They would tower over your quads. Dorian's arms were actually 21", which is roughly the same arm size that Ronnie had at Dorian's weight. You keep talking about Dorian's arms, but the reality is that his arms worked for him very well in most angles and from most poses. Bodubuilding encompasses rounds and the issue here is of visibility and relevance.
So how does Dorian's supposedly inferior arms hinder him? During the symmetry round, Dorian is not hindered because from the front the arms are barely visible. From the sides, Dorian has superior triceps than Ronnie because his triceps attaces lower in the tendom and his lateral triceps head has as much if not more mass than Coleman's. This is also the reason why Dorian wins the side triceps mandatory. Think about it: Dorian wins an entire mandatory because of his supposedly inferior arms!
So how exactly Dorian's arms would hinder him? The only pose that he is hindered is in the front double biceps because the full mass of the arms are only visible when flexing the arms from the front. In facvt, Ronnie winning even this mandatory over Dorian is questionable, because the actual arm size advantage over Dorian when they are at the same boduweight is only about 0.5", and that is due mostly due to Ronnie's advantage in biceps size.In terms of inner and medial triceps head mass, Coleman only has an advantage over Dorian when he is over 280 lbs; if we're talking about Ronnie at the 1999 Olympia, they are equivalent. So, the judges might decide to give Ronnie the win due to his slightly better biceps, but when you consider that Dorian's inner and medial triceps heads have as much mass as Coleman and that they attach lower in the tendom with better spearations, then the judges might actually give the pose to Dorian.
Now, you keep bringing up the back double biceps, and claim that Dorian would lose this because he lacks peaked biceps there. What you're fogetting - although I suspecvt that the hough tnever even occurred to you, is that this pose emphasizes the lateral triceps head, which Dorian has on Ronnie. If we're talking about the 1999 Coleman, then their arms are roughly the same size, but Dorian has the longer triceps head. Mass in sonly one of the things involved, and Dorian's lateral triceps head - emphasized in the back double biceps -, is harder and longer than Coleman's. So by no means would Ronnie win thbis pose. If we're talking about the 2003 Coleman, then his advantage in triceps ass well as biceps mass might tip the scales in hi sfavor, but the 1999 Coleman would have a difficult time in this pose against Dorian because he would have the better biceps but Dorian wo0uld have the harder and longer triceps. When you put in perspective that Dorian's back is match for Coleman's in this pose - just as big and muscular but harder -and that Dorian has better symmetry - smaller glutes and bigger calves -, it is unlikely that an advantage in biceps size would tip the scale in his favor.
You talk about "arms" as if they were a single entity that must be judged as a whole; in reality, the arms are a multi-faceted bodypart involving four muscle groups, and these muscle groups are not viewed from different angles entirely. Again, even if we're talking about Dorian's overral arms, he holds his won very well agains the 1999 Coleman in terms of mass, losing by perhaps half an inch. The only advantage Coleman has is in the front double biceps where he has bigger biceps and equivalent triceps to Dorian; from all other angles, Dorian's arms are better because most poses emphasize the lateral triceps head, where Dorian has more mas than Colerman with greater hardness. The back double biceps is a draw as far as arms goes and the side triceps goes to Dorian not only due to his bigger and harder lateral triceps, but also because of his better symmetry. Now, if there were a bodybuilding round cvalled "arms" - and not symmetry round and muscularity rounds -, then Ronnie might win due to his small advantage in arm size, but even then it wouild be close, with Dorian having triceps that are justg as big but harder. But since there's no such round, then you have no argument for saying that Ronnie has better arms. Dorian's arms were4 proportional to his bodyweight, so cu the crap because Coleman actually loses from most poses to Dorian solely based on arms.
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