Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[NeoSeminole]

No, it doesen't, you turd. You can have rock-hard muscles that are less separated than muscles that look soft. An example? Ronnie at the 1998 Olympia had a more separated back than Dorian at the 1993 Olympia, and yet Dorian's back looked harder.

hey dipshit, learn to read. I never mentioned softness in my comment. I said that smoothness reflects a lack of muscular definition. Here is the definition for smoothness according to dictionary.com:

"free from projections or unevenness of surface"

as you can plainly see, a bodybuilder who lacks separations and striations is smooth.

Smooth and separated are not the same thing

did I say they were? You need to stop getting your reading lessons from ND.

No, he didn't. Dorian is clearly holding no water whatsoever beneath his arms, delts and chest, and yet he still doesen't have the separations in these areas as Ronnnie has.

It's obvious that Dorian was holding more body fat in his delts and arms than Ronnie. Only a delusional Dorian nuthugger would deny this. Imagine you never heard of Ronnie or Dorian before. Look at these comparisons and tell me which person looks more shredded.

[pobrecito]

Lights out Coleman

[pumpster]

 It's on, ####! You live in Florida, right? Well, let's have this shit arranged and then filmed, and then post here on Getbig for everyone to see you getting the shit beaten out of you. I only focus on strengh? Wa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah! Yeah, that's probably the reaons why I challenged you for a bodybuilding contest, you retarded ####! By the way, f.a.g.g.o.t, I have done MMA and have run several half-marathons, so I know how to hit and I have great stamina. Make no mistake about: you will be a bitch in a real fight with me just like I owned you several time and made you a bitch here.

  
SUCKMYMUSCLE

  

Ah yes, our favorite keyboard warrior tough guy. It's usually the case that the bigger the talk, the smaller the dick, the bigger the dickhead, as proven here...the fantasized violence spewed from this dink's pretty indicative of mental disturbance. It's obvious at this point that SUCKY was sodomized as a young child.

[pumpster]

  "Loser". You know what's a loser? A 45 year-old middle-aged man who lives in a one room apartment and workouts with an apparatus designed for an arthritic old lady!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

That you continue to post nothing more than speculation over & over again is both hilarious (we're laughing AT, not WITH you, dumbass, get a clue) & pathetic. Pathetic as in nothing else to think of. *Yawn*; it's as boring and predictable as one of his monologues.

[The Enigma]

That you continue to post nothing more than speculation over & over again is both hilarious (we're laughing AT, not WITH you, dumbass, get a clue) & pathetic. Pathetic as in nothing else to think of. *Yawn*; it's as boring and predictable as one of his monologues.

Agreed.

[NeoSeminole]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure, a six-time Mr.Olympia is not known for his strenghs Sorry, sport, but we're talking in terms of absolutes here. Dorian's coinditioning is legendary and considered by many bodybuilding journalist and judges the best of all times. Even to this day, bodybuilding journalistes refer to Dorian's conditioning as the best of all times. McGough has already stated that "no man has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows."

I never said Dorian wasn't known for his strengths. Learn to read, you fagg*t. I said the rest of Ronnie's strengths are even more impressive than his conditioning. He has some of the best arms of all-time, possibly the best back of all-time, a pair of the best thighs of all-time, one of the best chests of all-time, some of the best delts of all-time, and he set the standard for muscularity. Dorian didn't have as many strengths. Instead, he was known mainly for his back and conditioning.

The quote about Dorian at the 2001 ASC, where it's stated that he was the best he's ever see? I have seen this quote several times and it's always reffered to as coming from McGough. If it's not from McGough, then prove it and I will apologize for it. In any case, McGough has already stated in 2005 that Dorian had the best conditioning of all times anyway, so you're still retarded.

listen up, little girl, b/c I'm about to educate you. Here is the exact quote from Peter McGough where he states that Ronnie at the 01 ASC was the best physique he's ever seen.

Flex Magazine, August 2005 - Peter McGough

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack."

nowhere does he say that 01 ASC Ronnie presented the best conditioning of all-time. Now here's the quote you're probably thinking of that refers to Ronnie's conditioning.



The above quote didn't come from Peter McGough. It came from another Flex magazine writer. So Peter didn't contradict himself like you say. Consider yourself schooled.

[NeoSeminole]

It's on, ####! You live in Florida, right? Well, let's have this shit arranged and then filmed, and then post here on Getbig for everyone to see you getting the shit beaten out of you. I only focus on strengh? Wa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah! Yeah, that's probably the reaons why I challenged you for a bodybuilding contest, you retarded ####! By the way, f.a.g.g.o.t, I have done MMA and have run several half-marathons, so I know how to hit and I have great stamina. Make no mistake about: you will be a bitch in a real fight with me just like I owned you several time and made you a bitch here.

yawn

Then what are you afraid of, you little f.a.g.g.o.t? The Mr.Getbig contest is approacing and I have already openly challenged your cowardly ass several times. Put out or shut up! Funny that you pretend being so confident about defeating me, and yet you refuse to actually prove it! The excuse that you don't want to prepare to the contest is not acceptable since you challenged me first for a physique comparison.

ha ha ha ha ha, you still don't get it, do you? I dare you to challenge random people off the streets to a bodybuilding contest. I guarantee they will think you are mentally handicapped. Well, that's how you sound right now. If you challenged me to a quick race or a game of pool - anything that doesn't require months of preparation - then I would be game. However, you're asking me to take time away from bulking up and piss money away on tanning and supplements just to say you competed against me. Now why the f*ck would I do that? If anything, you're the coward for not wanting to post a pic of yourself at your prime after you criticized the way I looked at 21 yrs old. It only takes you a few seconds while it would take me weeks to get into shape for a contest.

[pobrecito]

I though I told you to be humble kid 

[Iceman1981]

Lights out Coleman

I don't think so buddy. This is one of yates favourite pose and he is getting raped by Coleman

[pobrecito]

nope. Coleman's gut is bloated and smooth as can be, not to mention the synthol filled calves (blobs of shit) completely ruin the whole pose. Yates dominates.

[Iceman1981]

hey dipshit, learn to read. I never mentioned softness in my comment. I said that smoothness reflects a lack of muscular definition. Here is the definition for smoothness according to dictionary.com:

"free from projections or unevenness of surface"

as you can plainly see, a bodybuilder who lacks separations and striations is smooth.

did I say they were? You need to stop getting your reading lessons from ND.

It's obvious that Dorian was holding more body fat in his delts and arms than Ronnie. Only a delusional Dorian nuthugger would deny this. Imagine you never heard of Ronnie or Dorian before. Look at these comparisons and tell me which person looks more shredded.

Here are some more:

[NeoSeminole]

nope. Coleman's gut is bloated and smooth as can be, not to mention the synthol filled calves (blobs of shit) completely ruin the whole pose. Yates dominates.

bwahahahaha, I love this. The Dorian nuthuggers are so pathetic that when they start losing an argument they accuse everything of being fake. First it was the fake pics. Then it was fake member accounts. Now it's fake muscles. I wonder what they will come up with next.

[Iceman1981]

nope. Coleman's gut is bloated and smooth as can be, not to mention the synthol filled calves (blobs of shit) completely ruin the whole pose. Yates dominates.

All yates has in this pose is calves. His arms are too small, his chest is small, his quads are smaller, his delts are smaller. Ronnie is bigger, more seperated, ripped and drier than yates in this comparison, LOL.

I still don't know why I'm arguing with a Ronnie fan, lol.

It's funny that a Ronnie fan is bashing Ronnie. Oh Lord.

[suckmymuscle]

hey dipshit, learn to read. I never mentioned softness in my comment. I said that smoothness reflects a lack of muscular definition. Here is the definition for smoothness according to dictionary.com:

"free from projections or unevenness of surface"

as you can plainly see, a bodybuilder who lacks separations and striations is smooth.

  Who gives a shit? Semantics. It still doesen't change the fact that Dorian arguably has a lower amount of subcutaneous fat and water in the picture I provided, evident by the fact that he's rock-hard. Ronnie looks soft, as in "puffy" or "blurred", which is a clear sign of a bodybuilder who has a water spilled under his skin. As for bodyfat, Dorian is a s low as a Human Being can be, so Ronnie probably has at least as much subcutaneous fat and probably more than Dorian. Again, you didn't explain how is it that Ronnie clearly has more defined arms in the pic I posted despite the fact that Dorian has less subcutaneous fat and water. You are so dumb that you even pointed out that Dorian is flexing in the pic, which helps my case and not yours. Now, even if we assume that Ronnie and Dorian are equal in subcutaneous fat and water, it still makes me right. Why? Because then they both should have the exact sae amount of separations in their arms, which they don't.

did I say they were? You need to stop getting your reading lessons from ND.

  What?

It's obvious that Dorian was holding more body fat in his delts and arms than Ronnie. Only a delusional Dorian nuthugger would deny this. Imagine you never heard of Ronnie or Dorian before. Look at these comparisons and tell me which person looks more shredded.

  Nothing is obvious, except that is what you think. Dorian's arms look exactly like his thighs, back and such. Furthermore, even if he were holding more fat there - which I don't think is true, Dorian is obviously holding less water, so this should compensate for it. The fact that it doesen't goes to show that less subcutaneous water doesw not improve Dorian's definition as much as it increases his hardness. Regardless, they should have the exact same amount os muscular separations overral, and the bottom line is that Ronnie has more. So, your theory is incorrect. Give it up, fag. You are wrong and you know it. Fact: they were both at 3% bodyfat. Fact 2: Dorian was drier. Fact 3: Ronnie had a clealy overral more defined musculature than Dorian.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

I never said Dorian wasn't known for his strengths. Learn to read, you fagg*t. I said the rest of Ronnie's strengths are even more impressive than his conditioning. He has some of the best arms of all-time, possibly the best back of all-time, a pair of the best thighs of all-time, one of the best chests of all-time, some of the best delts of all-time, and he set the standard for muscularity. Dorian didn't have as many strengths. Instead, he was known mainly for his back and conditioning.

  No, we're talking in terms of absolutes here. Let's compare conditioning to conditioning. Who's was better? Most bodybuilders journalists, experts and judges will say that Dorian had the best conditioning of all times. Tbhis inbcludes when comparing him to Coleman. Dorian's conditioning was not a strengh that stood out due to his weakness elsewhere; iot was a strengh when compared to other professional competitive bodybuilders. Including Coleman. If you ask bodybuilding fans, judges and journalists who was the better bodybuilder, many will say Coleman. But if you ask who had the better conditioning, practically all will say Dorian.

listen up, little girl, b/c I'm about to educate you. Here is the exact quote from Peter McGough where he states that Ronnie at the 01 ASC was the best physique he's ever seen.

  Then why the fuck did you say that this quote wans't from McGough, you dishonest fuck?

Flex Magazine, August 2005 - Peter McGough

"Personally, the best physique I ever saw onstage (there was a contender for best-ever that I saw offstage: those crazy photos of sock-footed Dorian Yates taken seven weeks before the 1993 Mr. Olympia) was Ronnie's at the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic. He was cut, full, trim in the waist and a monster (proving that when you're supersharp, you look superbig) at 244 pounds. Ronnie sporting that look would, in my opinion, be unbeatable and would make any criticisms as redundant as a chocolate squat rack."

nowhere does he say that 01 ASC Ronnie presented the best conditioning of all-time. Now here's the quote you're probably thinking of that refers to Ronnie's conditioning.

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  So what's your point? I'm not arguing about who had the best physique in this case, but who had the best conditioning. So McGough didn't contradict himself? Boo fucking hoo! He still did make the claim that Dorian had the best conditioning of all times in 2005, so whether or not he contradicted himself is irrelevant because. His opinion is on my side, not yours.

The above quote didn't come from Peter McGough. It came from another Flex magazine writer. So Peter didn't contradict himself like you say. Consider yourself schooled.

How exactly am I schooled? Because I thought a quote came from a bodybuilding writer and it came from another? I don't have an obligation to know the names of the authors of all quotes that you post, retard. Regardless, it's just an opiniion, and the reason why I usually don't post quotes is because they are ultimately just that: opinions. The only quotes relevant in this case would be that from an I.F.B.B judge who judged both of them at their peaks; since we don't have that, it is irrelvant to argue this.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

yawn

  Your silence tells me all I need to know.

ha ha ha ha ha, you still don't get it, do you? I dare you to challenge random people off the streets to a bodybuilding contest. I guarantee they will think you are mentally handicapped. Well, that's how you sound right now. If you challenged me to a quick race or a game of pool - anything that doesn't require months of preparation - then I would be game.

  Then why didn't you accept my challenge for a fight, you idiot? I promise I will finish you off in a few minutes.

 However, you're asking me to take time away from bulking up and piss money away on tanning and supplements just to say you competed against me. Now why the f*ck would I do that? If anything, you're the coward for not wanting to post a pic of yourself at your prime after you criticized the way I looked at 21 yrs old. It only takes you a few seconds while it would take me weeks to get into shape for a contest.[/quote]

  Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah...first of all, the challenge came from you. I don't have an obligation to accept a challenge, but when you declined my challenge to compete at at the Mr.Getbig, you looked like a coward, because you were the loudmouth in the first place. And what would be the point of posting a pic? I want our pics to be judged and compared; I want an actual evalution of the physiques. So I'm a coward even though I took on your challenge and made it better?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

  Seminole, you still haven't answered my question:

  "Are you saying that each and every single person in the World will have the exact same amount of muscular separations at the exact same amount of subcutaneous fat and watrer?"

  Answer this question, you f.a.g.g.o.t!

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

Ah yes, our favorite keyboard warrior tough guy. It's usually the case that the bigger the talk, the smaller the dick, the bigger the dickhead, as proven here...the fantasized violence spewed from this dink's pretty indicative of mental disturbance. It's obvious at this point that SUCKY was sodomized as a young child.

  Anything is better than being poor, middle-aged and working out on a Bowflex!  

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[suckmymuscle]

That you continue to post nothing more than speculation over & over again is both hilarious (we're laughing AT, not WITH you, dumbass, get a clue) & pathetic. Pathetic as in nothing else to think of. *Yawn*; it's as boring and predictable as one of his monologues.

  Speculation? Like you guys saying that Ronnnie carried more mass at the 2001 ASC than at the 1999 Olympias despite being 10 lbs lighter - something that I have already demonstrated mathematically to be impossibe? Like you guys saying that Ronnie had a better back double biceps than Dorian because he had a better biceps peak, despite the fact that this conveys 5% of the muscle mass seen in this shot and that Ronnie had more assymetries in this pose? Like you guys sayingt that Shawn Nasser didn't win the 1997 olympia due to politics, depsite the fact that Wayne Demilia himself said the judges were blown away by his size and conditioning and gave him straight-firsts in all rounds? Like you guys saying that Dorian retired in 1997 because he feared Coleman, despite the fact that it wasn't even close and Ronnie came in ninth at the 1997 Olympia? Don't accuse me of speculating, because you fags are the queens of speculation. At the end, this discussion is nothing more than speculation, so don't think that you're better than me in this! As for you, Pumpster, you are the wors of all with your constant accusations of politics being involved with bodybuilding contest decisions, so don't be the pot calling the kettle black! You have provided no evidence whatsoever for your accusations; therefore, you are not entitled to accuse politics of being the responsible..

  And Pumpster, I assure you that no one at this boad was laughed at more than you when those Bowflex pics were posted. This was compounde by the fact that the pics also show that you're poor and live in a shithole. You were humiliated in grqand style and you melted down as predicted.

  And I find it funny that you would accuse me of repetition, considering that you post nothjing more than the same 3 or 4 pics again and again and you have yet to make a single post where you explain in a concise manner why you believe Ronnie at his best would defeat Dorian. the best explanation you came up with was saying that Dorian has small arms and a belly like a cow. Wow! You are the greatest loser in this thread by far, so shut the fuck up, mmmmmmmk?

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pobrecito]

You tell them sucky.

[suckmymuscle]

  I'm going to go play some Warcraft with my son now. Tomorrow I will continue the raping for those who crave.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[IceCold]

ronnie has the edge in chest and biceps.

-dorian is much drier overall (from that pic)
-his midsection is MUCH better than ronnie's
-better forearms
-better legs (in that pic)
-better lats

[IceCold]

pumpster,

here's the very definition of shitty arms in the back double bi pose.

pumpster's idol being humiliated by yates

[pumpster]

How humiliating-Yates truly looks like beginner's "before" pics, with none of the refinement let alone size of Coleman.

[realkarateblackbelt]

Biceps don't decide bodybuilding contest.