Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

[IceCold]

LOL so the fact that is was "not printed" makes all the real evidence presented in this thread wrong?

are you really that stupid?

 


LOL print this:

they've all been printed before buddy.

and no mention of hardness. 

[IceCold]

open your eyes for a minute, don't worry about what was or was not printed in 8 years ago..

we have, but you think everyone see what you see.

not true.

especially not the journalists - people paid to write about bbing.

do you get paid for making judgements on bodybuilders?

didnt think so. 

[suckmymuscle]

In that case you and others can never use quotes again to make the case, having again tried to change the subject when unable to refute the quotes provided.

  How can I refute a quote? A quote is a commentary from someone, and it is subjective. It is not a statement of fact, so there's nothing to refute. I never post quotes for this exact reason - except when someone tries to argue with quotes, in which case I reply with quotes from others saying that Dorian is better. For instance, Sperm posted a quote from a writer saying that the 2001 ASC Ronnie had the best conditioning ever. I then replied with a quote from McGough saying that no bodybuilder has been as hard and conditioned as Dorian. Again, opinions.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pumpster]

I have ALWAYS given Yates density & hardness, always. Coleman's weakness IMO, even though at times he's been far more shredded than Yates, which is equally impressive but not the same.

The problem's everything else:

-Size
-Tapers
-Aesthetics
-Balance including small arms on a barrel chest
-Lack of definition in much of the front upper body
-Shredded - Coleman at his best was far more shredded than Yates, while Yates was harder and drier.

[phyxsius]

That is where lumpster decided to skip that text

[pumpster]

That is where lumpster decided to skip that text

Thank you, pasty Aussie with bad teeth who just coincidentally likes Yates.

[suckmymuscle]

is this how you counter the overwhelming reality:

seriously, is that the best you can come up with to counter the FACTS:

LOL you type stuff that is not validated by anything:

dorian was harder in the abs and lower back.

THATS IT:

  Wrong. Dorian was harder in his entire body than Ronnie. Coleman was more separated and striated, but Dorian had a look of stone to him on all his bodyparts that Ronnie lacked. Look at the below pics. In the first, Dorian is much harder than Ronnie ever was in his arms, contrary to what you claim. In the second pic, Dorian is much harder than Ronnie ever was in the pectoralis area. In the third pic, you can see that Dorian is much harder than Ronnie in the hamstrings and claves. Conclusion: Dorian is much harder overral

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pobrecito]

I have ALWAYS given Yates density & hardness, always.

The problem's everything else:

-Size
-Tapers
-Aesthetics
-Balance including small arms on a barrel chest
-Lack of definition in much of the front upper body
-Shredded - Coleman at his best was far more shredded than Yates, while Yates was harder and drier.

 

[phyxsius]

Thank you, pasty Aussie with bad teeth who just coincidentally likes Yates.

Sorry mate.. There is no such thing as coincidence.

Jeebus has a plan for eech and everyone of ya'll

[suckmymuscle]

thats because he was known for his total package.

dorian was known for his back and size.

ronnie was known for his back, size, taper, hardness and detail.

and besides, the fact that ronnie 'was not known' for his hardness DOES NOT mean that ALL THE EVDIDENCE we are showing in this thread is NOT REAL..

  Wrong, again! Before the 2003 Olympia, Ronnie was known for his back and his good taper. After the 2003 Olympia, Ronnie became know for his massive size coupled with acceptable conditioning. Ronnie was never regarded as a standard for conditioning like Dorian was. His best conditioning, achieved at the 1998 Olympia, was very good but not  a standard like Dorian's at the 1995 Olympia. The below pics are from the 1996 Olympia, and they show a level of dryness that Ronnie never achieved, not even i his best days. Sorry.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[phyxsius]

Both Dorian and Ronnie are from different planet and they brought different packages.

[Iceman1981]

You shut the fuck up. I like Coleman's nonchalant, fun approach to bodybuilding. That doesn't mean that I can't point out that he at times acts like a moron. Are you denying that Ronnie made an absolute fool of himself on that video?

Hey dick head. Almost all of your posts you are putting down Coleman or making fun of him. Now answer my post with a reasonable answer you p*ssy? Or is that too hard for you?

[pobrecito]

Hey dick head. Almost all of your posts you are putting down Coleman or making fun of him. Now answer my post with a reasonable answer you p*ssy? Or is that too hard for you?

What are you, 12? Name calling is kiddie play. Act respectable or get the fuck out of here kid.

[EL Mariachi]

you guys are not even on the sibject, who is better all you do is try to bash eacother. why not take all the things a bodybuilding show is judged on, and then come with the scores, that should pick the winner

[pobrecito]

you guys are not even on the sibject, who is better all you do is try to bash eacother. why not take all the things a bodybuilding show is judged on, and then come with the scores, that should pick the winner

That was done over a year ago - too bad the Coleman nutthuggers don't even know how a show is judged. They think that everything is based on the most-muscular 

[phyxsius]

This is getbig. We trash everything

[NeoSeminole]

That was done over a year ago - too bad the Coleman nutthuggers don't even know how a show is judged. They think that everything is based on the most-muscular

no, the general consensus was that an 03 Ronnie would beat a prime Dorian. Ronnie simply has a better combination of muscularity, conditioning, and balance than Dorian. However, the Dorian nuthuggers think calves outweigh everything else.

[Camel Jockey]

Put an end to this thread!

[pobrecito]

no, the general consensus was that an 03 Ronnie would beat a prime Dorian. Ronnie simply has a better combination of muscularity, conditioning, and balance than Dorian. However, the Dorian nuthuggers think calves outweigh everything else.

the 1993 Dorian Yates had no flaws. He dominated the show to a level that not even the 2003 Ronnie did. Samir Bannout proclaimed that Dorian got "1st, 2nd, and 3rd".

[suckmymuscle]

no, the general consensus was that an 03 Ronnie would beat a prime Dorian. Ronnie simply has a better combination of muscularity, conditioning, and balance than Dorian. However, the Dorian nuthuggers think calves outweigh everything else.

  No, he had muscle size over Dorian and nothing more. Balance?! How can the 2003 Coleman have better balance than Dorian with quads that overpower his upper body, an ass that overpowers his back, small forearms, calves that are pathetic for a guy who weight over 280 lbs and a gut that that looks like that of a pregnant woman? To me, the gut by itself ruins that complete look of the physique because it makes Ronnie look obese, which is the opposite of what an in-shape physque is supposed to look like. As for conditioning...please ...give me a fucking break! Ronnie couldn't match Dorian for hardness even at 250 lbs, let alone 287 lbs! Look at Ronnie's posing video from the 2003 Olympia and you'll see that he barely has a cut on his back! He still had ok separations on his quads due to good separations genetics, but that's about it. The 2003 Ronnie does defeat an all-time best Dorian for muscularity, but Dorian takes symmetry. That's 50% of the points! So don't delude yourself for a minute that Dorian has no chance against the 2003 Coleman, because it's not true. Dorian could still win for a simple reason: he wins the symmetry round, and that represents 50% of the points. Ronnie wins the other 50% for muscularity, but Dorian's vastly superior conditioning would give him the nod. Conclusion: Dorian Yates wins.   Here's a video of Ronnie doing his posing routine at the 2003 Olympia. Massive, yes, but where are those freaky cuts on his quads and back? Gone. Where's the flat midsection that he had in 1998? Gone. So cut the crap about Ronnie defeating Dorian at anything other than muscularity 'cause it is not true.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5409CfsLDEk

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[pobrecito]

  No, he had muscle size over Dorian and nothing more. Balance?! How can the 2003 Coleman have better balance than Dorian with quads that overpower his upper body, an ass that overpowers his back, small forearms, calves that arm pathetic for a guy who weight over 280 lbs and a gut that that looks like that of a pregnant woman? To me, the gut by itself ruins that complete look of the physique because it makes Ronnie look obese, which is the opposite of what an in-shape physque is supposed to look like. As for conditioning...please ...give me a fucking break! Ronnie couldn't match Dorian for hardness even at 250 lbs, let alone 287 lbs! Look at Ronnie's posing vide from the 2003 Olympia and you'll see that he barely has a cut on his back! He still had ok separations on his quads due to good separations genetics, but that's about it. The 2003 Ronie does defeat an all-time best Dorian for muscularity, but Dorian takes symmetry. That's 50% of the points! So don't delude yourself for a minute that Dorian has no chance against the 2003 Coleman, because it's not true. Dorian could still win for a simple reason: he wins the symmetry round, and that represents 50% of the points. Ronnie wins the other 50% for muscularity, but Dorian's vastly superior conditioning would give him the nod. Conclusion: Dorian Yates wins.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Great post !! 2003 is vastly overrated due to the subpar condition. Fortunately for Coleman, he had no competition that was remotely near the condition Yates displayed at his best.




This is just beyond horrible, there is no way the 2003 Coleman could beat Dorian in his prime after looking at this picture. Horribly imbalanced physique    When Comparing to Yates stick to the 98 or 99 forms

[pobrecito]

Dorian hasn't trained his calves for 3 years and they are still better than any current IFBB pro LOL

[webcake]

WHO CARES?! Their both ex-Mr Olympias now so lets focus on more important and relevant things.

[pobrecito]

Yates ballin' out of control:

[NeoSeminole]

the 1993 Dorian Yates had no flaws. He dominated the show to a level that not even the 2003 Ronnie did. Samir Bannout proclaimed that Dorian got "1st, 2nd, and 3rd".

no flaws? ha ha ha ha. Dorian was no Bob Paris. If Dorian was so well-balanced, he would be #1 on every most symmetrical of all-time lists and yet you never hear his name mentioned. I wonder why... You're wrong about 03 Ronnie not dominating the Mr. Olympia to the extent of Dorian. Ronnie didn't just beat, he crushed the rest of the competitors. Never before had the margin between 1st and 2nd place been so wide.







Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

Dexter Jackson - Flex, January 2004

"As to Ronnie, that dude is by far the best bodybuilder on earth, he is in a class by himself, and no one will be able to touch him for years to come."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

Dorian Yates - Radio Interview

"the judges would probably choose Ronnie [over me]."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."