Dorian Yates kicks Ronnie's ass Hulkster is a punk Bitch and fuck any truce

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  Pumpy vs Pubes...who wins?

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[suckmymuscle]

yes he was. You must be either blind or delusional.

  STFU, NeoSemenHole. Coleman was fat and holding water in 2003, besides having a horrible gut.

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[NeoSeminole]

Sir NeoSeminole, Coleman was fat and holding water in 2003, besides having a horrible gut.

ha ha ha ha. Show me in the pics I posted where Ronnie was fat and holding water. All you can do is post backstage shots from 03 or pics from 04 (wrong year, idiot). If you want to go that route, then Dorian looked like ass too. I don't expect intelligent posts from you but at least try to be fair. Both men had guts when they were relaxed. Here are some pics of Dorian from 93 and 95.

What's sad is that these are all ON STAGE shots of Dorian during his best years.

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[pumpster]

I say we let this get to 2,000 pages and then set up a poll on the main page of gossip and opinions and everyone can vote for who is better. After that, we archive the thread and close it for good.

Already done:

Coleman >> Yates

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ha ha ha ha. Show me in the pics I posted where Ronnie was fat and holding water. All you can do is post backstage shots from 03 or pics from 04 (wrong year, idiot). If you want to go that route, then Dorian looked like ass too. I don't expect intelligent posts from you but at least try to be fair. Both men had guts when they were relaxed. Here are some pics of Dorian from 93 and 95.

What's sad is that these are all ON STAGE shots of Dorian during his best years.

  NeoSemenHole, a gut that is offstage is onstage. I guess that all of those journalists commenting on Ronnie's distended gut from 2003 were talking about his gut offstage? ::)And fuck you for the intelligence comment, since I have owned your dumbass more times than I can count and you know it.

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[NeoSeminole]

NeoSeminole, a gut that is offstage is onstage.

wrong, a gut that is offstage is only on stage when a person relaxes. According to your stupid logic, Dorian always looked like this during the mandatory poses. Think before you type.

[suckmymuscle]

wrong, a gut that is offstage is only on stage when a person relaxes. According to your stupid logic, Dorian always looked like this during the mandatory poses. Think before you type.

  No, a gut that is offstage is onstage. Period. I don't care if it is only visible when one is relaxed, because it shouldn't be visible anytime. So the bodybuilder is contracting his abs all the time while he's onstage? Ronnie's gut is plainly visible for anyone to see. Quit your whinning and your excuses.

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[NeoSeminole]

No, a gut that is offstage is onstage. Period. I don't care if it is only visible when one is relaxed, because it shouldn't be visible anytime. So the bodybuilder is contracting his abs all the time while he's onstage? Ronnie's gut is plainly visible for anyone to see. Quit your whinning and your excuses.

then where are the pics of 03 Ronnie with a gut during the mandatory poses? It doesn't matter if you care or not whether a distended midsection is only visible when relaxed. Ronnie kept his stomach in check when it counted. The mandatory poses were created for a reason - to evaluate each bodybuilder in an objective manner. Dorian had a gut when he relaxed too, but he looked awesome in the ab-and-thigh. That's all that matters. I don't understand why this concept is so difficult for you to understand. Moreover, I'm baffled by how you can penalize Ronnie for his gut yet ignore Dorian's.

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then where are the pics of 03 Ronnie with a gut during the mandatory poses? It doesn't matter if you care or not whether a distended midsection is only visible when relaxed. Ronnie kept his stomach in check when it counted. The mandatory poses were created for a reason - to evaluate each bodybuilder in an objective manner. Dorian had a gut when he relaxed too, but he looked awesome in the ab-and-thigh. That's all that matters. I don't understand why this concept is so difficult for you to understand. Moreover, I'm baffled by how you can penalize Ronnie for his gut yet ignore Dorian's.

  Then why did Julian Schmidt remark that Coleman should have been marked down for his distended gut if it was not visible onstage? Why did McGough remark that Dorian should have been marked down for his gut at the 1997 Olympia? Obviously, the gut was pretty visible on both cases, but the judges didn't mark them down because they were reigning Mr.Olympias. Their guts were under control in the mandatories, but there were moments when they relaxed and the guts were visible. As for why I give more importance to Ronnie's gut distension than to Dorian's, it is simply due to the fact that Coleman's gut in 2003 was ten times worse. You can start a thread and make a poll about who had the worst gut, if Dorian 1995 or Ronnie 2003, and let's see who gets the most votes.

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[NeoSeminole]

Then why did Julian Schmidt remark that Coleman should have been marked down for his distended gut if it was not visible onstage? Why did McGough remark that Dorian should have been marked down for his gut at the 1997 Olympia? Obviously, the gut was pretty visible on both cases, but the judges didn't mark them down because they were reigning Mr.Olympias.

show me the Julian Schmidt quote and where it came from. As for Peter McGough's comment about 97 Dorian, I agree with him. He seems accurate in his assessments, including his quote about Ronnie having the best physique of all-time.

Their guts were under control in the mandatories, but there were moments when they relaxed and the guts were visible. As for why I give more importance to Ronnie's gut distension than to Dorian's, it is simply due to the fact that Coleman's gut in 2003 was ten times worse. You can start a thread and make a poll about who had the worst gut, if Dorian 1995 or Ronnie 2003, and let's see who gets the most votes.

sure, Ronnie's midsection in 03 looked so much worse than Dorian's. Oh brother!

[phyxsius]

Ronnie has better control over his gut on stage but that doesn't rule out the fact that he sports one of the biggest

[suckmymuscle]

As for Peter McGough's comment about 97 Dorian, I agree with him. He seems accurate in his assessments, including his quote about Ronnie having the best physique of all-time.

  Do you find this quote of his to be accurate?

"No bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows"
 
If you find his statements accurate, then why have you insisted that Ronnie at the 2001 ASC has better conditioning than Dorian? You obviously don't find his statements accurate - except when it suits you.

sure, Ronnie's midsection in 03 looked so much worse than Dorian's. Oh brother!

  Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu re...you especifically pic and choose Dorian's worst gut pics and then compare them to selected pics of Ronnie 2003 where he isn't showing a gut and that's fair? Hey, NeoSemenHole, show me where Dorian's gut is here. This is from 1993.

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[delta9mda]

BOOOOOM

[delta9mda]

def. not soft and doughy

[NeoSeminole]

Do you find this quote of his to be accurate?

"No bodybuilder has ever been as hard and dry as the man who won six Sandows"

it depends on when he made that comment. I'd like to see the year and source.
 

If you find his statements accurate, then why have you insisted that Ronnie at the 2001 ASC has better conditioning than Dorian? You obviously don't find his statements accurate - except when it suits you.

b/c it's true that Ronnie at the 01 ASC had better conditioning. Dorian may have been "harder" but Ronnie carried less overall body fat and water. There is simply no way you can argue Dorian had better conditioning when Ronnie had all the same features - pronounced cheekbones, shredded glutes, paper thin skin - and more.

sure...you specifically pic and choose Dorian's worst gut pics and then compare them to selected pics of Ronnie 2003 where he isn't showing a gut and that's fair? Hey, Sir NeoSeminole, show me where Dorian's gut is here. This is from 1993.

go cry me a river, you idiot. I chose pics of Dorian ON STAGE hitting the same poses. I didn't use backstage shots or where he was in the middle of transition. If you have better pics of Dorian hitting those exact same poses, then post them here. Otherwise, shut the f*ck up kid.

[RocketSwitch625]

Ronnie was never this huge, shredded, and proportioned on stage.

Funny thing is, this picture is more representative of how massive and shocking Dorian was than ANY professional picture taken. Kind of odd 

These pictures look remarkably similar to pics that were displayed at the Weider Nottingham store on the day of the 93 British Grand Prix. I remember seeing them and thinking I can't wait to get these pics when the next issue of Flex Magazine comes out. I was somewhat dissapointed when the magazine came out a couple of weeks later.

[RocketSwitch625]

Despite weighing 30lbs more this never had the same impact as...



...this

[NeoSeminole]

Despite weighing 30lbs more this never had the same impact as...

ha ha ha, what crack are you smoking? You're comparing a blury shot of an inferior Dorian to a sharp image of Ronnie with 30 lbs more size and better definition?

[RocketSwitch625]

ha ha ha, what crack are you smoking? You're comparing a blury shot of an inferior Dorian to a sharp image of Ronnie with 30 lbs more size and better definition?

Maybe YOU see better conditioning but I don't see it. All I see is nasty abs, a THICK waist, soft looking legs and, of course, the infamous bitch tits. LOL

[Iceman1981]

def. not soft and doughy

LOL, even in black and white he still can't pull that pose off. Keep trying though.

[Hulkster]

LOL so sucky thinks I am a racist.

I'd love to hear why.

as far as the chris vs dorian thing, let me point out one thing:

there has been LOTS of chris pics posted here in the last two days and only TWO from 1999.

Let me repeat that: only TWO.

his 2002 shape or 2004 shape or 200fuckingwhatever shape would NOT beat Dorian.

but his 1999 shape COULD IF dorian was NOT at his best (ie if he showed up looking like he did in 96 or 97 which is entirely probable given his downward trend)

I would love to see a poll posted comparing these shots and see just how many other "racist" people are on this board..

 

you have no knowledge of how physiques are judged if you think that someone who chooses chris is automatically a 'racist'..

 

[Hulkster]

LOL yeah, I must be a racist...

[pumpster]

I admit to being anti-white when it comes to rocketdweeb, rocketdweebs' smelly fat ace and our skinhead racist redneck ice.

[sgt. d]

How did Dorian ever win the O? The dude looks like shit.

[pumpster]

How did Dorian ever win the O? The dude looks like shit.

Pithy

Bald reality that cuts just a little too close to home for the last few delusionals here.

I give you our 6-time winner & unblemished record.